Why I Support LGBT & Feminism

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 "Why I Support LGBT & Feminism" 

"That LGBT+Feminism is the shortest & amplest path to population collapse. White populations fertility is currently at about half replacement rate, & declining. This is the generation which grew up in the 70s & 80s, during 2nd & 3rd wave Feminism. The upcoming generation, of which close to half are LGBT+, will likely half the fertility, to probably quarter replacement rate; since LGBT+ contribution to fertility is, well, insignificant. Half replacement rate means half the population over a life expectancy cycle, idem for a quarter. Specifically, the 600 million Whites in the world will become 300 million by the end of the century at half replacement rate, & 150 million at quarter replacement rate. "

Where am I confused?
Let’s look at the countries that don’t have LGBT & Feminism problems like India, China and Africa. Each country has a population of 1.4billion, 1.4 billion, 1 billion respectively.
So the idea that the white population will be reduced to 300million will greatly create a demographics shift. The other countries will have to tolerate white LGBT+Feminism and resist the temptation to dominate the white race. Russia can greatly contribute to reducing the white race even further by engaging them in a 3rd World War.
With the large number of white men being killed in these conflicts. The only whites left will be LGBT & Feminism.

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@Yassine
I have gathered that you are a Muslim.

How can you be a Muslim and then support LGBT+ stuff?

What is the Quranic justification for this?
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Qurans justification is simple.

Quran says: "Atheists are bad. Kill them."

Good way to do this is to support LGBT in countries with atheist values,
while opposing to LGBT in countries with religious values.

Its not the LGBT that he supports. He supports the collapse of atheism.

He uses LGBT to make atheism undesirable. He admitted this.
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@Ehyeh

Poorer immigrants always tend to have higher birthrates than the native people.
- Muslims in the US have generally higher income level than the average American & yet a higher fertility rate. It is just that having lower income among immigrants in some places also coincides with having Family values.


Would you like to give a source proving either this wrong or that the Qatari's have higher birthrates than the immigrants?
- Aside from the fact that fertility rates in their origin country is much lower than that of native Qataris?


I did not find it very relevant to comment on, when we can already see the demographic decline in many middle eastern nations begin.
- It is relevant, since it negates your premise. You claim that given time fertility rate among Qataris or Muslims will fall to Europe levels, when in reality Muslims in Europe still boast higher fertility rates. The argument is moot.


In just the last 20 years many of them had birthrates per woman at over 4+ now many are only at replacement level at 2.2, like turkiye.
- Again, you're missing the point. It boils down to Family values. There are two levels to this issue. Urbanization, in the sense of moving from rural to urban centers, does indeed lead to lower birth rates (& also coincidently higher income), for Family needs change & thus so does the size. But this is completely irrelevant to our topic, which is population decline & replacement rate fertility. Urbanization does not induce below-replacement fertility, only breakdown of Family does. 2.2 in Turkey is actually a rebound in fertility rates, since the country is becoming more traditional.


Its only going to get worse in these nations. This source suggests, an immigrants birthrates mirrors its home countries.
- This alone undermine your claim that fertility rates relate to income. It is only natural that immigrants birthrates mirror home countries, for the shared values they have. Muslim immigrants from more traditional countries, like say Iraq, should have higher birth rates than immigrants from more secular countries, like Albania. 


With the decline of Muslim birthrates beginning to happen, the immigrants from these nations will have less children too.
- Irrelevant. Decline in birthrates does not entail decline in population. This only comes with below-replacement birthrates, which is a result of breakdown of Family. It is not about being Muslim or otherwise, it's about Family values. Abandoning Family values naturally leads to lower birthrate. What I am postulating is that Muslims tend to generally have stronger Family values, more so than others. I did not say Muslims are perfectly immune to LGBT+Feminism, instead they are *largely* so. In fact, some Muslim countries too have below-replacement fertility, like Albania. Not because they are rich, but because they lost their Family values with secularization. Some other Muslim countries which underwent heavy secularization are today experiencing strong rebound in fertility as they become more traditional. Fertility rates in Central Asia went from below-replacement in the 2000s to around 3 today.


I'm not sure where you have got that information from. Would you like to cite this statement?
- I've done a study on this. It's not that complicated, you calculate the total income in 1946 Europe, which is slightly less than $6k (in 2010 constant USD adjusted for inflation), & do the same for Africa today, which is about the same. You can infer that Africa's economy today is much larger than post-WWII Europe's, given the population ratios. – The fact that this information surprises you makes one wonder about your Education systems, still hung on old narratives.


You appear to be having contradictory statements. At one minute Europeans dominated the worlds population, the next minute Muslims always have higher birthrates.
- These are mere facts. It is a fact that Europeans dominated global population in the past. It is also a fact that Muslims have higher birth rates today. These are not opinions I am expressing so that I may contradict myself!


If Muslims always had higher birthrates it would be demographically impossible for Europeans to have ever surpassed them.
- First, no one said Muslims always had higher birthrates, & that's irrelevant. They do today though. Second, higher birthrates do not always mean higher population growth, for that's that is contingent on lower death rates & lower infant mortality. In the past, infant mortality was much more indicative of population growth than fertility rate. Third, having stronger Family values isn't the only factor to birthrates. Particularly in the past, periods of prosperity generally led to population surges & vise-versa, due to decreased infant mortality & increased resources. The population of Mughal India went from 100 to 180 million in a century. Likewise, Europe went into a period of prosperity & thus experienced a surge in population. But the more important factor which contributed to the West's unprecedented population explosion is population replacement. Populations naturally adjust to land & resources. US population, for instance, grow 1200% in a century from the 1820s to the 1920s. The invasions of the Americas & Africa coupled with the genocide or displacement of their native peoples afforded European vast amounts of lands with copious amounts of resources, why European population grew so rapidly to adjust accordingly. 


Muslims currently have higher birthrates because they're generally poorer. Its mostly because of that.
- 4 of the 10 richest nations on Earth are Muslim, & yet boast some of the highest fertility rates out there. You don't have to keep going back to this, it's beaten to death.


Muslim nations are usually significantly poorer. 
- I don't know about that. With roughly the same population, the Middle East's REAL GDP is almost 6/10th the EU's, except with a larger agricultural & industrial sectors, & a faster economic growth. 


well im sure we would both agree having women in the workplace does affect birthrates. But im asking how much? i want to know how much. Is it 0.1 births per woman or 1.2 births per woman?
- You're looking at it the wrong way. Mainstream female participation in workplace means below-replacement birthrates. That's the relevant part. Again, lower birthrates do not necessarily entail declining population. It is not that Feminism affects fertility rates by a certain degree, rather, it is that it leads to below-replacement fertility, thus population decline. 


clearly the latter is much worse than the former, and if it is the case may make us have a broader discussion on whether the way the west currently functions is viable. 
- Even a 1.2 decline in fertility rates isn't relevant if it doesn't get you below-replacement. Indeed, Feminism is not viable, it's unsustainable. 


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You are aware the 1800's are the 19th century, no?
- I was referring to the 1800s as in from 1800 to 1810. Maybe I should've specified. The same goes for the "1900s" mention, meant for the 1900-1910 period.


if you actually wanted a 20th century demographic i can get you that too, but not much changed. heres another demographic map This map tells us the British empire constituted 23% of the worlds population. But if we click the "show" button on the British empire, we find out 300 million of that demographic was from Indians, not Europeans. You could add Britain, France, and the United states' population together in the 19th century and it still wasn't more than India. You're also once more still counting all of Europe vs. one country, which is ridiculous.
- You are the one who keeps counting all of the Indian Subcontinent as a single country. There were dozens of states in 19th century India, virtually all with a significantly smaller population that Britain. The same way individual African states had a much smaller population than France or Britain. Also, Europeans (including the British or French or all others) weren't just settled in Europe, they settled everywhere. There were huge numbers of European settlers in Africa & Asia. 15% of the Algerian population for instance was French. In fact, Algiers (the current capital) was a French majority city before independence. – There was never a clash between something called India & the UK.


If i counted the white declining population in the modern day, it still accounts for at least 500 million people on Earth, so still relative to India. Why are you counting the entirety of Europe vs. one country?
- That's what you're doing, counting the entirety of the Indian subcontinent vs one country. More so, total population isn't as relevant as urban population. Rural areas generally submit to & follow whoever rules the city. & the UK did in fact have a larger urban population than India.


 Yes, it makes sense for an entire continent to have 15% of the worlds population. This is still relatively the case with Europe.
- Europe then constituted 1/4th global population, & Europeans overall close to 2/5th. In terms of urban population, more than 2/3rds.


Its just now not dominated by France, Germany and the UK anymore and  Are you saying Britain was capable of doing what it did purely because of its population's size? that once more i find ridiculous.
- No. But I am saying that without population size it wouldn't be able to. The other major factor being extraordinary amounts of deceit & betrayal. The technological advantage came mostly in the 20th century.


Britain had technological advantages.
- No it did not. At the onset of the 19th century, the India subcontinent was more technologically advanced than India. As I said, what you like to call the "Industrial Revolution" in Britain, was in effect a technological transfer from the Muslim world. The sewing mills, cotton factories, shipyards...etc, around the Bay of Bengal, many of which managed by the British India Company itself, were replicated in Britain. The same happened with the Ottomans, from where other technologies originate, like the steam engine, clock & watch making, weapon factories & so on. – From there, Britain & the rest of Europe begin to industrialize at rapid pace & eventually reach supremacy. This does not mean that the rest of the Muslim world did not continue industrializing. On the contrary, factories in the Ottoman empire did not cease to be built, especially with the discovery of coal. & if it was not for the huge population advantage they had against Muslims (almost 3 to 1), they wouldn't have been able to impede their advancements. 


Do you really think the British empire in the 1800's was sending  hundreds of thousands of soldiers to fight in other continents? That's just not practical. We can see how Russia can barely send its army past its own borders in the modern day. What really happened is what you said, Indians sold one another out. Backstabbing each other, which let the British take advantage.
- The backstabbing which they incited. It's clear you're not familiar with the Colonial History to say the least, you are nonetheless right. Actual force did not prove to be very successful in subduing the subcontinent (or elsewhere), as can be clearly seen by the battles with the Mughals. The Brits resorted, thus, to a lot of deceit & treachery, & policies like divide & conquer


Not manpower, but tactics and timing.
- You call it tactics, I call it deceit & betrayal. These things are not sustainable. It may work if you have the advantage & your enemy is divided, but it can not last forever. 


Relevant how? they're still the ethnic predecessors of modern day Indians. I know it isnt modern day india.
- If Europe was united today as one country, you wouldn't assume it was always one country would you! There are many more ethnicities, languages, religions... in today's India than in all of Europe. What you think of as one India today, wasn't a thing back then. It was a bunch of neighboring states with different dynasties, ethnicities & religions.


So much for Muslims always having higher birthrates.
- Have =/= had. English! The Ottomans did not purge almost three continents of their inhabitants so that their population might grow to take their place, as the Europeans did. 


Muslims within these nations are also much poorer and less educated on average.
- What can you do when you live under an apartheid right! You seem to still have a colonial mindset. The world is quickly changing back to its pre-Colonial state friend. Last year, the scientific output in S&E of native Muslims who originate from Muslim countries was greater than that of native Westerners who originate from the West. Countries like Saudi & Iran today have greater scientific output in STEM than countries like France & Italy. Turkey has long surpassed countries like Canada, Italy, Spain... in REAL GDP, & should surpass France & the UK in a couple of years, albeit already having 50% larger industry. 


Again, im confident Muslim's demographics will fall.
- & yet Muslim demographics in previously secularized places are strongly bouncing back. Regardless, you keep missing the point. Fertility rates may very much decline in Muslim countries, it matters not to us here. The concern is lower than replacement fertility rate, which comes with the breakdown of Family.


I'll listen to the experts. We can look at historic trends and see Muslims don't always have children the faster either. That's just not true.
- Population decline in the past had much more to do with infant mortality & life expectancy than fertility rate as it does now. When the average woman dies at the age of 40, instead of 50, or when a third of her children die early, it affect population index. Today, infant mortality is so negligible that fertility rate above replacement values are sufficient to maintain population.


You will see your demographics fall below replacement. 
- No. As long as LGBT+Feminism doesn't take over, this will not happen. & LGBT+Feminism will indeed never take over. 


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Why I Support LGBT & Feminism" 

"That LGBT+Feminism is the shortest & amplest path to population collapse. White populations fertility is currently at about half replacement rate, & declining. This is the generation which grew up in the 70s & 80s, during 2nd & 3rd wave Feminism. The upcoming generation, of which close to half are LGBT+, will likely half the fertility, to probably quarter replacement rate; since LGBT+ contribution to fertility is, well, insignificant. Half replacement rate means half the population over a life expectancy cycle, idem for a quarter. Specifically, the 600 million Whites in the world will become 300 million by the end of the century at half replacement rate, & 150 million at quarter replacement rate. "

Where am I confused?
- Why don't you say something first so I can point out to you where the confusion is.
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What is there for me to say? I posted your words verbatim. Show where I am confused about you supporting a way of thinking that will decimate the white race according to you and your own words.
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What is there for me to say? I posted your words verbatim. Show where I am confused about you supporting a way of thinking that will decimate the white race according to you and your own words.
- I am afraid ways of thinking do not have the ability to decimate things in the real world.

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@Yassine
You talk in circles
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That is the way Muslims debate, genuinely.
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@sadolite
You talk in circles
- Case in point.

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That is the way Muslims debate, genuinely.
- I see you debate Muslims no problem. But when it comes to debating me you always run away & find excuses. Now we know why, you only wanna debate weak debaters. 

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This argument pisses me off, but not going to lie it seems spot on. 

Luckily I don't have to be ashamed of being white for too long as the half of whites who are degenerate are either mixing with non whites and their descendants are leaving us or they are voluntarily castrating themselves and being removed from the gene pool that way. 
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@sadolite
So you hate white people basically. Got it.
He has a point about how susceptible whites are to Jewish propaganda. 
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You have it backwards! Buddy, the Middle East is the Cradle of Civilization, & the birth of most great religions & civilizations.
Hey I support what you are saying about white degeneracy and support it's eradication, but you have to admit Arabs are a bunch of 3rd world people because of inferior brains. 

I also think you underestimate the degeneracy of Muslims. A ton of Muslims in Pakistan for example fuck little boys because they are faggots and this is usually dismissed as a cultural thing. 
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They said that one day, US will follow muslims example and introduce stoning and cutting off limbs of homosexuals. Not just homosexuals, but anyone who has sex outside marriage.
Bro no homo but this made my dick hard. 
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I didn't run away lmao? Do you think I need to reply to you endlessly on a forum as a slave or you 'win'?

I have better things to do than debate you and saying too much against Islam doesn't do me any good.
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Like talking to someone with Alzheimer's.  Forgetting everything they just said.
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This argument pisses me off, but not going to lie it seems spot on. 
- Which part pisses you off?


Luckily I don't have to be ashamed of being white for too long
- Shame is reserved for God alone, not Man. 


as the half of whites who are degenerate are either mixing with non whites and their descendants are leaving us or they are voluntarily castrating themselves and being removed from the gene pool that way. 
- Indeed, Family oriented gene pools will inevitably always come out victorious. Unfortunately, it is clear the next generation will be predominantly degenerate. It will take at least a generation or two for your side to gain predominance again. But you can expedite this process by having 12 children families today.


Hey I support what you are saying about white degeneracy and support it's eradication, but you have to admit Arabs are a bunch of 3rd world people because of inferior brains.
- & here you are swimming in the world they created. Arabs are literally the most successful race that has ever existed. We all have ups & down though. 


I also think you underestimate the degeneracy of Muslims. A ton of Muslims in Pakistan for example fuck little boys because they are faggots and this is usually dismissed as a cultural thing. 
- Fake news. But it's cute that you are comparing the once in a year occasional such news in Pakistan, with the daily thousands of such occurrences in your country. 
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@RationalMadman,

I didn't run away lmao?
- You're laughing cz it's true.


Do you think I need to reply to you endlessly on a forum as a slave or you 'win'?
- We both know I am referring to formal debate. 


I have better things to do than debate you and saying too much against Islam doesn't do me any good.
- Case in point. You have so many debates on Islam with other members, yet not once with me even when challenged. Chicken much? Or maybe you just like bullying...
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Like talking to someone with Alzheimer's.  Forgetting everything they just said.
- You should have that checked out. Pronto.

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I have gathered that you are a Muslim.

How can you be a Muslim and then support LGBT+ stuff?
- I don't support it ideologically, morally, theologically or spiritually, nor am I going to participate in propagating this degeneracy. I support it recognizably, in realizing & understanding that there are beneficial outcomes to it, a greater good. The same way I would support two murderers killing each-other, not to condone murder, but to realize the greater good in such event.


What is the Quranic justification for this?
- Theologically, "Every soul will taste death. And We test you O humanity with good and evil as a trial, then to Us you will all be returned." We believe all things are from God & we accept His decree (Qadar). God tests us with good & evil to establish who among us will be rewarded & who will be punished. LGBT+Feminism is also part of God's decree, we accept His decree. But at the same time we discern that it is an evil, for God also decreed that this is evil. There is not support for the act, rather acceptance of God's decree. The beloved Prophet (pbuh) said "things will come to be towards the End of Time [...] Men will practice anal intercourse. Men will marry men. Women will marry women. Their prayers will be rejected, until they repent..." he also said "the Hour will not come until a meteorite humbles a people for legalizing sodomy" & also said "five things when spread among you expect doom [...], and when singers pervade, men are content with men, and women with women"...etc. It is what it is. 

- Morally, it matters not that non-Muslims practice LGBT or otherwise, they are under no Sharia obligations. They must convert first to be subject to divine Law. Disbelief, taking the lives of non-hostile humans, & adultery, which are also widespread in the West, are in themselves a greater sin than LGBT acts. The moral issue with this movement is not LGBT desires, for people are not accountable for their thoughts; nor is it even LGBT acts, for one can repent after the act & have his sins forgiven & we are all sinners. The real moral issue is that LGBT want to change "go and sin no more" to "go and sin is no more". They want to make what sinful acts ideals...

- Spiritually, each human has their own journey with his Lord, Muslim or non-Muslim. Only God knows what is truly in people's hearts. 


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@Yassine
Make some debates, open challenge, I'll accept when it suits me, how it suits me where it suits me.

I don't enjoy reading the Qur'an and Hadith and digging for a 'this but that' conflict between all the conflicting merciless vs merciful parts of the Qur'an vs Hadith.

I have no passion for Islam at all and against Islam it's also not as much a passion against it as one for secularism. I don't believe religion should be blackmailed upon people, simple as that. Islam is the widespread religion that disagrees the most with secularism, so I resent it the most all other sins of it aside.
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Make some debates, open challenge, I'll accept when it suits me, how it suits me where it suits me.
- I just hear "I am chicken". You didn't accept on your request for debate. I doubt you will in an open challenge... I might do just that, why not.


I don't enjoy reading the Qur'an and Hadith and digging for a 'this but that' conflict between all the conflicting merciless vs merciful parts of the Qur'an vs Hadith.
- Yet you love to talk incessantly about Islam...


I have no passion for Islam at all and against Islam it's also not as much a passion against it as one for secularism. I don't believe religion should be blackmailed upon people, simple as that.
- & yet here you are believing in Secularism & Liberalism... no religion has ever been "blackmailed upon people" in Human History as these two have been, starting from you, constantly bombarded & indoctrinated since birth into this nonsense. 


Islam is the widespread religion that disagrees the most with secularism, so I resent it the most all other sins of it aside.
- Well yeah. Secularism is a sh*t system. See? You have so many opinions about Islam & Secularism, but you don't seem to be willing to defend them in a debate. Maybe it's not lack of will, but of ability.
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@Yassine
- Indeed, Family oriented gene pools will inevitably always come out victorious. Unfortunately, it is clear the next generation will be predominantly degenerate. It will take at least a generation or two for your side to gain predominance again. But you can expedite this process by having 12 children families today.

That is good advice, but I am 40 and studies seem to show that once you hit 40 your kids are more likely to have cognitive impairments. 

Fake news. But it's cute that you are comparing the once in a year occasional such news in Pakistan, with the daily thousands of such occurrences in your country. 
Actually Bacha Bazi was such a predominant problem that soldiers were often warned against intervening because they said it was just Muslim culture and that's just what Muslims do. 


Many soldiers came back home and bitched that they weren't allowed to prevent Muslims from practicing the Islamic tradition of Bacha Bazi
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I apologize. I believe Bacha Bazi was mostly just a practice in Afghanistan and the Islamic Taliban gained popularity because they promised not only to end the degeneracy of raping boys like the faggots in Afghanistan do, but also they fought to end the degeneracy of opium production as well. 

It seems islam was a factor in reducing those things until the U. S. Government stepped in and kind of ruined that
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I used Google to find that out. I am perhaps a Google ninja
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 Secularism & Liberalism... no religion has ever been "blackmailed upon people" in Human History as these two have been
Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."




Muhammad's religious career spanned 23 years. He started as an oppressed preacher and ended up as a powerful ruler. During this time he was many things, played many roles, displayed many emotions, and performed many deeds, both good and bad.
But did he act as a terrorist? That is our focus and we have to review the historical record and examine its facts. I will cite incidents directly from the historical records mentioned above and present my case. I'll summarize 5 incidents for examination and I'll provide their specific references. There are more to choose from but these five should be sufficient.
1) Attacks on the caravans.
Muhammad began to commit and authorize acts of violence against non-Muslims after he arrived in Medina. This was in his 13th year as a religious preacher. Prior to this, while in Mecca, he and his followers were quite weak and unable to commit acts of violence. Had they attempted violence the Meccans would have killed Muhammad outright and possibly killed all of Muhammad’s followers.
Eventually the persecution became severe and Muhammad fled Mecca running for his life. After arriving in Medina he sent his men out to rob trading caravans. (At this time his Meccan enemies decided to leave him alone. Their perspective was that their problem had run away and they were done with him - good riddance! Tabari’s History states that it was Muhammad’s attacks on their caravans that started the war between Muhammad and the Meccans). As these raids continued caravan attendants were murdered by the Muslim thieves and Muhammad's attacks transgressed the cultural norms and Arab mores’ of warfare. To justify his crimes Muhammad claimed to have received a special message, a "revelation", from Allah. You can read about this in Tabari Vol. 7 pp10-22 and LoM pp281-289.
Put this in perspective. Muhammad's attacks against these caravans are akin to highwaymen's robberies. They hold up trucks carrying goods and in some cases murder the drivers. But unlike normal criminals, Muhammad claimed to get a special message from God allowing his actions.
Is this a moral standard to be followed?

2) Murder of an old man.
Muhammad was not received by all the inhabitants of Medina. Many people rejected his claim of prophethood. Some of these people were concerned for their fellow citizens and spoke out about the false prophet who had duped them. One of these was a 120-year-old man named Abu Afak. Abu Afak did nothing more then speak his heart and mind and chide those that followed Muhammad. He viewed Muhammad like people today view leaders of religious cults and encouraged his fellow citizens to doubt. Muhammad could not tolerate any criticism of his claim to prophethood and he asked his followers to murder Abu Afak. Abu Afak was murdered, under cover of night, while he slept. A Muslim plunged a sword through the old man’s chest. You can read more details about this murder here: http://answering-islam.org/Silas/abu-afak.htm
There is little difference between what Muhammad did to Abu Afak and what Saddam Hussein has done to his critics. Of course at that time Muhammad did not rule the country, so like an illegitimate criminal he acted furtively, and the end result was the same. In Medina if you challenged Muhammad's credibility you would most likely be murdered for it. You can read about this in LoM p675, and Tabaqat Vol 2 p32.

3) Murder of a mother of five children.
One lady, Asma bint Marwan, spoke out about Muhammad’s cold-blooded murder. She chided her tribesmen for allowing him to get away with it. Again Muhammad faced criticism. Again he could not brook it. Again he asked his followers to murder. Again a Muslim man, under cover of night, snuck up to the victim’s home and stabbed her to death. Her children slept nearby. You can read more details about this murder here: http://answering-islam.org/Silas/asma.htm
Do you believe that Muhammad was so threatened by this woman that he had to murder her?

4) Murder of a shopkeeper.
Muhammad was not able to get along with non-Muslims very well. His relationship with the Jewish tribes deteriorated quickly. Muhammad was very unhappy that the Jews rejected his claim of prophethood and he wanted to silence their criticisms. An incident follows:
"The apostle said, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power." Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'" (LoM page 369).
This story is also detailed in the Hadith collection of the Sunan of Abu Dawud, Book 19, Number 2996:
Narrated Muhayyisah: The Apostle of Allah said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. He had close relations with them. He then killed him. At that time Huwayyisah (brother of Muhayyisah) had not embraced Islam. He was older than Muhayyisah. When he killed him, Huwayyisah beat him and said: O enemy of Allah, I swear by Allah, you have a good deal of fat in your belly from his property.
(The Sunan of Abu Dawud is a collection of "traditions" or anecdotes, mostly about Muhammad’s specific actions or teachings).
Muhammad’s command was bigoted, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power"Muhammad was not looking to mete out justice, instead he was looking to murder and terrorize those that rejected his prophethood. This is akin to the fundamentalist Muslims today who say, "Kill any American, or Britain, or Jew, ..." whoever is their enemy of the day. The Muslim terrorists of today are doing what Muhammad did earlier.
Is this low standard worth emulating? Hasn’t humanity done better?

4) Torture and murder of a man to obtain wealth.
Earlier I quoted Sina and his reference to Muhammad’s conquest of Kheibar. Here is one sordid detail from this conquest:
"Kinana al-Rabi, who had the custody of the treasure of Banu Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought"), to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" He said "Yes". The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr Al-Awwam, "Torture him until you extract what he has." So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud." (LoM page 515).
Let’s review. Muhammad attacked and conquered Kheibar. It was rumored that there was buried wealth or treasure. Muhammad had one of the Jewish leaders, Kinana, brought to him and demanded the wealth. Kinana said he didn’t know of it. But Muhammad’s greed drove him and he ordered that Kinana be tortured. They built a fire on his chest hoping to cause him enough pain and suffering to make him talk. But Kinana never told them about any buried wealth. In the end Muhammad ordered that he be beheaded.
Is this a great example for humanity to trust in and follow?
You can read more in-depth about this event here: http://answering-islam.org/Silas/kinana.htm

CONCLUSION
Was Muhammad a terrorist? Of course he was. You’ve seen the information quoted exclusively from Islamic source materials. And there are many more crimes committed by Muhammad that could be detailed. To keep this article brief I only listed five. Yes Muhammad was a terrorist, and yes, terrorism is allowed in Islam. And yes, Fundamentalist Muslims are in a state of war with all those who reject Islam and terrorism is a legitimate weapon for their use.
If you want to do more in-depth study of violence and "jihad" in Islam, how it developed and changed over time, you can read this long, detailed article: http://answering-islam.org/Silas/jihad.htm
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- I just hear "I am chicken". You didn't accept on your request for debate. I doubt you will in an open challenge... I might do just that, why not.
Challenge others first then, I am not sure what you are talking about buddy. I step into the ring every single week nowadays, you? You're having your first.