I hate to see a Reverend reduced to a bible fool.Well he/she doesn't believe s/he is, does s/he?Maybe he is not very articulate.Are you kidding me!!? Have you not read his ever-increasing list qualifications and accolades? He was taught and trained by the best in the business. He translates ancient languages into English. He has been taught to memorise the bible from a very early age, he charges universities to tutor their students and he is a criminal lawyer!! And you say he is not articulate!!? Behave yourself shila.😂If you and pussycat found him very articulate , why are you two treating him like he is a bible fool?
Why were the Jewish elders upset if Jesus was their promised messiah?
Tradesecret learned the hard way, https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091/post-links/351103
It is difficult seeing / thinking a person would talk harshly OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN .ESPECIALLY TO A FEMALE.
This is something we in the forum should of done for trade buttttt.
Nice thought, but is that truth?
And BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.My morals just kicked in.Hey guys.Because we dont " tell on " people in this forum , we need toIf you see someone being continuously " attacked " by , for example, The brother D . With very little given back , you have to rise up and insult the brother D a few times , in hope to get him to abuse you for a while. Take some ofthe heat.▪○°•▪○°•▪○°• Take note people. ▪○°•▪○°•▪○°•▪○°•It is difficult seeing / thinking a person would talk harshly OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN .ESPECIALLY TO A FEMALE.I'll jump in for Shila soon.This is something we in the forum should of done for trade buttttt.Hopefully the brother can shift gears and give us a nice happy fun religious post.Or give me shit.So ummmmm , Take note.
-> @ShilaNope, banning just creates resentment.Ideology will evolve slowly.Though what the masses are conditioned to think and do is perhaps somewhat irrelevant in terms of evolutionary progress.Nonetheless it would be foolish to suggest that the greater society is not essential to that progress.
But we first have to conduct ourselves worthy of such a discussion.
If you and pussycat found him very articulate , why are you two treating him like he is a bible fool?Ok, you have given me good and genuine reason, so;I cannot speak for the Brother but for me it was not only the uncalled for insults such as;"you are the serpent, satan, whatever - he is the accuser and you follow after him. you are his disciple. From my point of view - he is slime. You know like the stuff we find after a snail has passed by. creepy. disgusting. Ugly. \ #24 Tradesecret"After all, you are the swine and the dogs that trample over the pearls. your comments to me are like water of a ducks back". #36 "Words are words. And that is all they are". #45 Tradesecret:Are these the words of a charitable, caring and benevolent christian Chaplain or a Pastor. A pastor of a church with over 300 people#67 and that was "chosen by god". And he studied Shakespeare too! It is also because for all his acclaimed theological education and some 40+ years of bible study and " memorising the bible backwards and forwards", he really is actually bible ignorant as I have proven him to be many times.
Why were the Jewish elders upset if Jesus was their promised messiah?Did they believe Jesus to be the promised Messiah? And they were "upset" for many reasons.Those Pastors and Priest of old were raking it in. The temple mount and the temple compound was a hive of commerce, with money changers making a killing on the exchange rate as pilgrims could only buy with money acceptable to the temple authorities and traders taking advantage of a bad situation (and good one’s) by selling only“perfect doves” and other "unblemished" live stock to the gullible for offerings to god.There was also the “ransom” straight to the temple priests of the sanctuary, as god told Moses “all of them shall give a ransom for their lives to the Lord so that no plague may come upon them”. And " All the money of the dedicated gifts that are brought into the house of the LORD—each man’s census money, each man’s assessment money—and all the money that a man purposes in his heart to bring into the house of the LORD", which I am sure you understand was "guilt money" and each person registered in the census had to pay a half shekel to be used for cultic atonement made to Yahweh.And nothing has changed has it? God is angry pay up. You have upset the lord pay up. You didn't donate enough money to god so out you go to live among the "dead". It is the biggest legal con known to man. Is it any wonder that the Reverend Tradesecret is both a pastor and a lawyer. Small print you see shila. Its all in the small print, my friend.I won't go on only to say, is it any wonder those puppet priests didn’t want to give over this lucrative business to Jesus the interloper.Then of course as I have already mentioned, there was the genuine fear of Jesus upsetting the status quo. Such as mentioned here;" If we allow him to go on in this way, everyone will believe in him, and the Romans will come and take away our sanctuary and scatter our nation.” Which they did in the end.
"Most atheists I know are impractical and airhead. Many end up in prison, for theft and sex related crimes, mostly kiddie crime. Many commit suicide and or are on drugs and alcohol. Not too many get married, or if they do - are on to their 4 or 4th marriage. Many are gay or lesbian. #33"I don't like the idea of me or my family being lumped in with "most" atheist that he has met.
I hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily.
-> @BrotherD.ThomasTradesecret learned the hard way, https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8091/post-links/351103Hello Brother, it seems your memory is fading.The only one around here who seems to have learned the hard way is you.Not once have you succeeded in any of you dumb attempts at foiling the God of the Bible. I expect you don't even know what the word foil means.Ha.
--> @ShilaBut we first have to conduct ourselves worthy of such a discussion.Well, you blew that out of the water when you deceitfully tried to put words into my mouth and the mouth of Josephus.#32 . I knew then you wouldn't stay true to the topic.And if you didn't want is thread, your thread, to veer so far off course you should have stuck with the theme of the thread instead of going out of your way to hold a completely different conversation about the Brother and about someone that is quite capable of speaking for himself. You "reap what you sow", and all that.
--> @StephenNice thought, but is that truth?Simple answer without getting into the philosophical nature of "truth." Faith doesn’t require truth but it can be based on truth.
"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God…." (2 Timothy 3:16)
"Most atheists I know are impractical and airhead. Many end up in prison, for theft and sex related crimes, mostly kiddie crime. Many commit suicide and or are on drugs and alcohol. Not too many get married, or if they do - are on to their 4 or 4th marriage. Many are gay or lesbian. #33"I don't like the idea of me or my family being lumped in with "most" atheist that he has met.Reverend Tradesecret was recalling his days as an atheist and the life he led before his conversion. One could read it as nostalgia.
hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily.You have helped me take Reverend Tradesecret’s depravity more seriously.
You wrote: I believe that Jesus was a man that believed himself to be or was led to be believe that he was the rightful heir to the throne of David and king of the Jews and Jerusalem minus the miracles. While I also believe he was a man wrapped in a myth by the early church.
Shila, the most dumbfounded Bible fool that this forum has ever seen,"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God…." (2 Timothy 3:16)
YOUR CONTINUED DUMBFOUNDED QUOTE IN RESPONSE TO THE BIBLE PASSAGE ABOVE: "You are quoting the Gospels referred to Jesus Christ and the apostles’ teachings and not scriptures. The Holy Bible is the name given to the scripture, and the scripture in the scripture is known as the Old Testament."Barring the fact that the Old and New Testaments are known as scripture, where you only say the Old Testament is scripture, your Bible stupidity continues! LOL! What part of the word "ALL" don't you comprehend? LOL! OMG, your evading tactics remind me of Tradesecrets, where you must have gone to her "How to evade disturbing Biblical Axioms and to try and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath Bible School!"
"ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD!" (2 TIMOTHY 3:16). Who is the Christian God, yes, Jesus the Christ! Therefore, Jesus' written Bible is ALL inspired by Him, period, you continued dumbfounded pseudo-christian woman!!!!
Shila, how can you remain in this Religion Forum with you easily being made the Bible fool? Huh?NEXT HELL BOUND PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN WOMAN THAT IS AS BIBLE STUPID AS TRADESECRET AND SHILA, WILL BE ...?
That is a good example of the case for the Historical Jesus which is based on truth and does not require faith. It offers Simple answers without getting into the philosophical nature of "truth."Thank you.
--> @Shila @Tradesecret.Shila, the most dumbfounded Bible fool that this forum has ever seen,Dear Shila, can you tell the membership of this Religion Forum in how it feels to kick Jesus in the balls, and continually sin against Him by posting in this pathetic ungodly thread of yours as a Hell bound woman, whereas Jesus' inspired words says you are not too in the following verse: "Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor." (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
I will follow up on page 4 through 5 later on to keep track in how many times YOU HAVE SINNED AGAINST JESUS THE CHRIST by not following 1 Timothy 2:11-14 to the letter, where its like you perceive yourself to know more than Jesus in this respect. NOT!!! Your Bible stupidity is funny!
Remember the days when the equally Bible stupid Tradesecret continued to post within DEBATEART Religion forum as a female as well in going directly against Jesus the Christ's "inspired word" in 1 Timothy:11-14? Yes, as usual, many members of this forum Bible Slapped her Silly®️ as well in the name of Jesus, praise!
-->--> @StephenNice thought, but is that truth?Simple answer without getting into the philosophical nature of "truth." Faith doesn’t require truth but it can be based on truth.
Shila, you seem have misinterpretation down to a fine art.
--> @ShilaSo you still want to discuss the Reverend rather than your own topic."Most atheists I know are impractical and airhead. Many end up in prison, for theft and sex related crimes, mostly kiddie crime. Many commit suicide and or are on drugs and alcohol. Not too many get married, or if they do - are on to their 4 or 4th marriage. Many are gay or lesbian. #33"I don't like the idea of me or my family being lumped in with "most" atheist that he has met.
Nope. He was well and truly found by God at this time. His trouble is that he forgot this at time of writing. According to him, he had been studying religion for over 40 years and had ALSO studied and passed his law degree and was a criminal lawyer and much more in between. His trouble is, is that he has told far too many lies upon lies about himself that he forgot time frame. Time frame and chronology are not his specialist subjects. But that is his baby, let him rock it.Irony doesn't even cover it. For all of his high education in many fields of religious studies Matthew 7:1-4 seems to have continuously escaped him..I hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily.
If his behaviour concerns you at all, then it is his compulsive lying that you should take more seriously. I am not interested in his depravity, or his compulsive lying and would rather not speak about it unless I am given good reason to. That's the trouble with compulsive liars, they say that many they cannot keep up with themselves and will trip themselves up very easily. He of all people should know all this, he's a criminal defence lawyer, too with clients.... isn't he?
Yes I wrote that. And stand by it. I mean exactly what I wrote. I could write it slightly different if you like but I would still mean the same thing. Here you goI believe that there was once a man that believed himself to be king of the Jews that other men shrouded in myth.
Just applying your truths to my case of the Historical Jesus. I will mention you in the acknowledgment.
Added 10.16.22 12:50PM--> @Shila @Tradesecret.Shila, the most dumbfounded Bible fool that this forum has ever seen,In response to your ungodly rhetoric in your lame ungodly post #138, I proffer the following biblical axioms at your expense AGAIN, understood Bible fool?1. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God…." (2 Timothy 3:16)
2. “EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5)
3. “And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD of God.” (Luke 4:4)
You are embarrassingly excused at this time because of you trying in vain to REWRITE the scriptures to your Satanic liking! What a total waste of time and money in having your alleged Bachelors Degree that your poor parents paid for in your behalf, where it has fallen upon its proverbial face by you being so Bible ignorant. Sad indeed. :(NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN BIBLE STUPID WOMEN EQUAL TO MISS TRADESECRET AND MISS SHILA, WILL BE ...?
--> @ShilaJust applying your truths to my case of the Historical Jesus. I will mention you in the acknowledgment.To quote Pilate ~ “What is truth?”
MISS TRADESECRET, whose gender went from a “MAN TO A WOMAN,” and then to “OTHER,” then went to her being 53 years old, then 12 years old, then changed to being 14 years old, Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO, Bible denier of Jesus being God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity she follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding the Noah's Ark narrative, SHE SAYS THAT OFFSPRING THAT CURSE THEIR PARENTS SHOULD BE KILLED, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19, 2 Timothy 4:3, and 1 Timothy 2:12. She obviously had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, she goes against Jesus in not helping the poor, teaches Christianity at Universities in a “blind leading the blind” scenario, and is a False Prophet, says that Jesus is rational when He commits abortions and makes His creation eat their children, and that Jesus is rational when He allows innocent babies to be smashed upon the rocks, will not debate me on the Trinity Doctrine or the Virgin Birth, has a myriad of EXCUSES not to answer your questions, and she is "AN ADMITTED SEXUAL DEVIANT!"
Dear, seriously, you need a new writer to "try" and combat my superior Biblically knowledge over your kindergarten knowledge of same! Look at your weak and wanting refutations to me in your following links, where how weak can you get, as usual!Tradesecret, listen, we know that you are worried about the equally Bible stupid SHILA taking over your #1 Bible stupid and ignorant position that you have held within this forum for a long time, AND, that was the only recognition that you had in being in this forum to begin with! LOL! You and Shila should have a debate on a simple biblical topic to actually settle in who is more Bible stupid, you or Shila! Yes?
It would give this forum such great laughter again at both of your expense, at least think about it, okay? Thanks! Stephen and I can hand out the "laughter crying towels" for the membership when you start your debate because just like before, you made us laugh so hard with your complete Biblical stupidity that was easily refuted! ( My personal favorite that I have on file was your outright laughable position regarding Noah's ark, remember dear? That had to be the best Bible comedy ever written, and worth a spot on Saturday Night Live in the USA! Priceless!)
just like before, you made us laugh so hard with your complete Biblical stupidity that was easily refuted! ( My personal favorite that I have on file was your outright laughable position regarding Noah's ark, remember dear? That had to be the best Bible comedy ever written, and worth a spot on Saturday Night Live in the USA! Priceless!)
You wrote: I believe that Jesus was a man that believed himself to be or was led to be believe that he was the rightful heir to the throne of David and king of the Jews and Jerusalem minus the miracles. While I also believe he was a man wrapped in a myth by the early church.Yes I wrote that. And stand by it. I mean exactly what I wrote. I could write it slightly different if you like but I would still mean the same thing. Here you go. I believe that there was once a man that believed himself to be king of the Jews that other men shrouded in myth.Is it possible they wanted Jesus to be the King of the Jews.
If his behaviour concerns you at all, then it is his compulsive lying that you should take more seriously. I am not interested in his depravity, or his compulsive lying and would rather not speak about it unless I am given good reason to. That's the trouble with compulsive liars, they say that many they cannot keep up with themselves and will trip themselves up very easily. He of all people should know all this, he's a criminal defence lawyer, too with clients.... isn't he?Compulsive lying is proof he has not mastered the truth and has to lie to cover his deficiencies.
