Most people dont know how badly the pedophiles are treated in prison

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"when the prepubescent child finds out (later) that what was being disguised as tickling, caressing, or some trivial game at the time was actually a massive turn on for the adult they are going to feel like they were deceived and betrayed."

The only way they would feel deceived is if they begin to think that "adult being happy" was something they didnt want. Which is odd if they considered an adult as someone they liked and if they too were happy in a relationship.
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Can convicted pedophiles use the internet?
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What you really want to say is that convicted pedophiles shouldnt be alive.

Since 90% of people agree with that, it follows that you can run for president with that policy.

I am pretty sure that saying "pedophiles deserve the death penalty" would bring at least 20% of population to vote for you.

The other votes you can get by seeing what other decisions are supported by majority and use them as your policy.
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Since you mentioned the harm argument, I could simply add that society causes harm to children and to pedophiles.

The society's policy was never about preventing harm to children. It was about punishing pedophiles.

This society has psychopatic ancestors, so the need for violence was probably inherited from them.
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"when the prepubescent child finds out (later) that what was being disguised as tickling, caressing, or some trivial game at the time was actually a massive turn on for the adult they are going to feel like they were deceived and betrayed."

The only way they would feel deceived is if they begin to think that "adult being happy" was something they didnt want. Which is odd if they considered an adult as someone they liked and if they too were happy in a relationship.
So you agree tickling a child,  caressing, or some trivial game at the time was actually a massive turn on for the adult. It is  the adult who is sexually aroused.
That is why pedophilia is a problem. Adults seeking sexual gratification from prepubescent children.

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Yes, adult is turned on.

I am pretty sure that children have nothing against an adult being turned on by them.

In fact, children probably enjoy it.

Its the other adults that find "turn on" as a problem.
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Yes, adult is turned on.

I am pretty sure that children have nothing against an adult being turned on by them.

In fact, children probably enjoy it.

Its the other adults that find "turn on" as a problem
Isn’t adults then pressuring prepubescent children to have sex?

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If an adult simply gives harmless knowledge to a child, its up to the child to use that knowledge or not. 

For example:
An adult explains to a child what is masturbation and child decides to try it.
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Not unless that pedo is kin jong un.
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If an adult simply gives harmless knowledge to a child, its up to the child to use that knowledge or not. 

For example: 
An adult explains to a child what is masturbation and child decides to try it.
The adult should know when they are speaking to a little child. Talking about sex to children is not appropriate. They are too young to get into sexual relationship. That is why there are minimum age required to consent in most countries.

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I think that childs body belongs only to the child.

So only the child can decide if she wants sex.

Freedom of speech also allows an adult to flert with a child, but it seems that others dont want to have freedom of speech in their society when it doesnt suit them.
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I think that childs body belongs only to the child.

So only the child can decide if she wants sex.

Freedom of speech also allows an adult to flert with a child, but it seems that others dont want to have freedom of speech in their society when it doesnt suit them.
So why are parents responsible for their children till they reach 18,  if the child is already responsible even as a child. Why is child labour illegal?

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Parents are only responsible to create a safe environment. 

For example, not to give a gun to a child.

However, when it comes to childs body, I dont see why would parents have any right to decide about childs body. It doesnt belong to them.

If something doesnt harm a child, why would child not be able to do it?

Well, people have different view about what is harmful.

About child labour: 
Society is responsible not to give jobs to children, same way parents are responsible not to give guns to their children.

I am not someone who believes in objective morality. In fact, I think all moral systems are flawed in some way.

But moral systems usually revolve around amount of life, harm or consent, or some combination of these.

When it comes to harm, most people just assume that all sexual activities are terribly harmful for children. They even want to stop children from masturbating.

So really, what is the point of moral system based on harm if people dont know what is harmful and what isnt?
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Parents are only responsible to create a safe environment. 

For example, not to give a gun to a child.

However, when it comes to childs body, I dont see why would parents have any right to decide about childs body. It doesnt belong to them.

If something doesnt harm a child, why would child not be able to do it?

Well, people have different view about what is harmful.

About child labour: 
Society is responsible not to give jobs to children, same way parents are responsible not to give guns to their children.

I am not someone who believes in objective morality. In fact, I think all moral systems are flawed in some way.

But moral systems usually revolve around amount of life, harm or consent, or some combination of these.

When it comes to harm, most people just assume that all sexual activities are terribly harmful for children. They even want to stop children from masturbating.

So really, what is the point of moral system based on harm if people dont know what is harmful and what isnt?
Advanced cultures accept that child labour leads to abuse. They are also aware of children being sexually abused. So these protections are based on experience and vulnerability of children when left unprotected.

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I was in prison for pedophilia.
Don't have sex with kids.

They actually like it a lot when they hear pedophiles are being tortured or killed.
Well, I don't know about your country, but in America, a rapist is a tyrant, and we have a saying here: The tree of liberty from time to time must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants.

Murderers, rapists, kidnappers, human traffickers, arsonists, and fentanyl traffickers all should get their heads cut off because I value the $25.2 billion a year we spend taking care of these monsters over the lives of horrible people.
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Not every pedophile is a rapist.
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Not every pedophile is a rapist.
The ones that don't rape; I respect.  I'm primarily attracted to sexy women, 5'9" tall, preferably blond (but not a requirement), not a hardcore (liberal or conservative), doesn't want kids, etc.  This doesn't mean I RAPE them.  I easily could rape them if I wanted too; just drug their drinks.  But I won't EVER do that because I have morals.

If you are a non offending pedophile, I respect you controlling your urges on a daily basis.  However, the moment you rape a kid, I think you should get hung.  Children don't enjoy sex.  Teens may watch porn on the internet, but that is very different from sex.  I, as someone who is 21, has watched exclusively straight porn.  HOWEVER, what they do in porn videos I would NEVER want to emulate in real life.  All the porn actors in the porn I watched were consenting adults.

If there was like a robot that looked and felt exactly like a child that pedophiles could use to get their sexual urges out on, since it's not a real life child, I would support that 100%.  Maybe NAMBLA should get to work on building such robots.  That hopefully reduces child rape.
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Children don't enjoy sex.
I started masturbating at age 7 or 8, I dont even remember exactly. I just know it felt good and I imagined having sex and I enjoyed imagining that.

There was this book called "The Trauma Myth" that deals with adult-child relationships. In most cases in those relationships, child is happy.

Person who is attracted to children shouldnt act on his urges because it is illegal to do so.
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I started masturbating at age 7 or 8, I dont even remember exactly. I just know it felt good and I imagined having sex and I enjoyed imagining that.
Your an early case, Caught Your Kid Masturbating? (webmd.com) states the average age for boys is 10 years old.

There was this book called "The Trauma Myth" that deals with adult-child relationships. In most cases in those relationships, child is happy.
If there was an adult that gave a kid nothing but candy to eat, the kid would also enjoy it most of the time (I wouldn't since I have never liked candy.  But I'm an odd case).  That doesn't mean it's beneficial for the child.  Adults know when to stop for sex; they know the effects of it (STIs, unwanted pregnancy, realizing that birth control is not effective enough) that kids can't grasp yet.

When I was 5 years old, I wanted a bunch of kids.  I had no idea they would be so expensive (I thought $5 was a lot of money), but I wanted them for a stupid reason (just to play a game with me that I forgot).  Now, I have enough common sense (and different values) to know better than to want kids I can't afford to raise.  Even if you happen to be a gay kid, kids take very horrible risks they shouldn't take.  A 5 year old can get some STI that lasts with them the rest of their life since they wouldn't like condoms (adults have enough sense to use a condom, even the gay ones).  But if every 5 year old was sexually active, our world would be a much worse place with STIs being held by virtually EVERY kid, having virtually every teenage girl dealing with an unwanted pregnancy (that forces her to pick 1 of 2 horrible options (assuming she's in a place where abortion is legal); killing her unborn child, or having such a young kid go through pregnancy that will traumatize her).  This all starts with relationships.

It's better if young people (I define young as below 18) don't get into relationships.  I think the age of consent should get raised to 18 nationwide to protect the kids.


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Your an early case, Caught Your Kid Masturbating? (webmd.com) states the average age for boys is 10 years old.
I discovered it early. Some discover even earlier. If someone told them about it at any age, they would discover it. When kids discover it, they enjoy it.

If there was an adult that gave a kid nothing but candy to eat, the kid would also enjoy it most of the time (I wouldn't since I have never liked candy.  But I'm an odd case).  That doesn't mean it's beneficial for the child.  Adults know when to stop for sex; they know the effects of it (STIs, unwanted pregnancy, realizing that birth control is not effective enough) that kids can't grasp yet.
Most children have sexual urges. Some kids have sex with other kids to satisfy those urges. Some just masturbate. Sexual activities happen. If sexual activities are beneficial or not, its questionable.

When I was 5 years old, I wanted a bunch of kids.  I had no idea they would be so expensive (I thought $5 was a lot of money), but I wanted them for a stupid reason (just to play a game with me that I forgot).  Now, I have enough common sense (and different values) to know better than to want kids I can't afford to raise.  Even if you happen to be a gay kid, kids take very horrible risks they shouldn't take.  A 5 year old can get some STI that lasts with them the rest of their life since they wouldn't like condoms (adults have enough sense to use a condom, even the gay ones).  But if every 5 year old was sexually active, our world would be a much worse place with STIs being held by virtually EVERY kid, having virtually every teenage girl dealing with an unwanted pregnancy (that forces her to pick 1 of 2 horrible options (assuming she's in a place where abortion is legal); killing her unborn child, or having such a young kid go through pregnancy that will traumatize her).  This all starts with relationships.
It's better if young people (I define young as below 18) don't get into relationships.  I think the age of consent should get raised to 18 nationwide to protect the kids.
If such relationships were allowed, it is very unlikely that every child would be in a relationship. Relationships would be better guided by society. In the USA, 30% of children had sex before 16. Great majority of them have no STI. Allowing such relationships wouldnt cause every child to have STI. Most of adult-child relationships are never discovered. Same goes for child-child relationships. The stigma from society hurts those children psychologically. It also hurts map, as they are treated like monsters and tortured. It is questionable if ban on such relationships does more good than harm in its current form.
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Most children have sexual urges.
At 7 years old, no.  At 15 years old, unfortunately yes.

Relationships would be better guided by society. In the USA, 30% of children had sex before 16.
That's a problem.

Great majority of them have no STI.
I read something that said 25% of Americans have an STI and young people are more likely to have one because when old people were kids, they had more prudish values (and this is based) when it comes to sex.

Allowing such relationships wouldnt cause every child to have STI.
A lot of kids are going to get STIs, and a lifetime of having STIs isn't worth 3 minutes of sexual pleasure.  At least with pregnancy, that kid would grow up in 19 years.  STIs last with you the rest of your life.

Most of adult-child relationships are never discovered. Same goes for child-child relationships.
I'm not sure about the first claim.  But most child-child relationships are discovered because it's legal.

The stigma from society hurts those children psychologically.
I don't think this is the case.  A kid has leverage over the pedophile since the pedo will get prosecuted and the kid would get comforted by society.  I knew this teacher that had a relationship with a 16-17 year old girl.  When relationships end (which is common in highschool), the kid outs the pedo.

 It also hurts map, as they are treated like monsters and tortured.
It's pedo, not map.  And this is based; kids don't want to be traumatized by pedos.  Henry Abbott Tech teacher arrested for alleged sexual relationship with student (wlad.com) shows a pedo tracking down his girlfriend.  Who DOES that?

It is questionable if ban on such relationships does more good than harm in its current form.
Given that adults tend to be very controlling of kids they are close too, it does more harm.  With parents, you know the parent is looking out for their kid's best interests (unless there is assault, rape, or similar, but this is rare).  Pedos just want sex from the kid.  In the link I sent you, the 41 year old man was dating a 17 year old girl; he could have waited a year and it would have been legal (adultery aside since he is married).  But pedos want that type of power over the children they date, so they pick young kids.

I don't know if your into anyone that's super young.  If you are, just wait until they are 18 and then the law won't prosecute you as hard.  They would be more informed to make good decisions by then.
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I read something that said 25% of Americans have an STI and young people are more likely to have one because when old people were kids, they had more prudish values (and this is based) when it comes to sex.
That is an argument against sex outside of marriage. That isnt an argument against sexual activities with children. Banning sex wont stop children from having sex.

A lot of kids are going to get STIs, and a lifetime of having STIs isn't worth 3 minutes of sexual pleasure.  At least with pregnancy, that kid would grow up in 19 years.  STIs last with you the rest of your life.
So you would be in favor of banning sex outside of marriage.

I'm not sure about the first claim.  But most child-child relationships are discovered because it's legal.
The book "The Trauma Myth" states that most are never discovered as children refuse to report it even after they grow up.

I don't think this is the case.  A kid has leverage over the pedophile since the pedo will get prosecuted and the kid would get comforted by society.  I knew this teacher that had a relationship with a 16-17 year old girl.  When relationships end (which is common in highschool), the kid outs the pedo.
Most kids in relationship with map dont want for map to go to prison. However, they are aware that society thinks that what they participated in was most wrong. They have to deal with the pressure of society's opinion.

It's pedo, not map.
Map stands for minor attracted person. Pedo is too insulting to use, so I gave up on it.

But pedos want that type of power over the children they date, so they pick young kids.
I dont think its about power. Its about an attraction. For example, baby is the weakest, but most map arent attracted to babies.

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That is an argument against sex outside of marriage. That isnt an argument against sexual activities with children.
An adult knows enough about the danger of STIs to make an informed decision regarding whether or not to have sex.  A 8 year old child doesn’t even know what an STI is.

So you would be in favor of banning sex outside of marriage.
I think it should be heavily discouraged, but not banned, mainly because adults have better risk assessment abilities than 12 year olds.  When I was young, I went on car trips every year to Missouri and Michigan where my grandparents lived.  I was constantly pressuring my parents to speed 80,90, even 100 I think.  If I, with my 12 year old mind was driving that car, we would have ended up in an accident.  Adults have better risk judgment than kids.

Most kids in relationship with map dont want for map to go to prison. However, they are aware that society thinks that what they participated in was most wrong. They have to deal with the pressure of society's opinion.
You don’t know that.  Like anecdotaly, my dad laid on me when I was 7 I think the way I would with a consenting woman now (I think it would feel good; but my personal morals prevent me from wanting it)  (but we had clothes on; if it wasn’t, it would have been sex).  I hated when Dad did that.  I wouldn’t say I’m traumatized from it because I didn’t know what it was, but I didn’t like it.  Ironically, he’s against pedophillia even though I think he’s a pedophille.  My sister told me that and I reliezed that I was sexualized as a kid.  This is before I knew pedophillia was a thing, so I hated it.

Map stands for minor attracted person. Pedo is too insulting to use, so I gave up on it.
Map is a euphemism to normalize having sex with kids.  You can use it if you want, but I’ll use pedo.

I dont think it’s about power. It’s about an attraction. For example, baby is the weakest, but most map arent attracted to babies.
Fair point.  But if the kid doesn’t like it (I don’t think kids would), then it is rape.  You think kids can consent.  If the kid didn’t want the pedo prosecuted, in court, the kid would have defended the pedo and said that it was consensual.  If that was the standard, I don’t think pedophillia would be as stigmatized as it is now because there would be reports done by mainstream media about how kids are in trauma about their adult lovers being killed.

Like let’s say there was an alternative USA; they viewed blacks as animals, but they didn’t view them as beasts; they viewed them similar to how society now views dogs; cute animals, but dumber than white humans.  Blacks didn’t go to school because dogs don’t go to school.  This was a historical trend, so blacks would in this society be like dogs; very very nice towards their white owners, but idiots because they never went to school.  

There would be laws against interracial marriage not because of concerns that the white race would become less pure, but because of concerns that the animals (blacks) can’t consent to sex with whites.  Now let’s say that in this alternate USA, there is a famous court case that argued that blacks could in fact consent to sex with whites.  If a white man and a black woman had sex, the white guy would be prosecuted for raping a black person, similar to how you would if you had sex with a dog (I think beasiality should be a state issue as it already is).  If the sex was consensual and the black person was arguing that they liked it, I think that court case would lead to interracial marriage eventually being legal.  Let’s say in this alternate USA, sex between blacks and whites never produced any kids (just like how sex between humans and dogs and adults and children never produces any kids), then this society would never have to deal with the question, “Are mixed race kids human?” because there would be no mixed race kids.

However let’s say every time a white person had sex with a black person, the blacks person called it rape.  Then having sex with black people would get viewed comparably to pedophillia.

If there was a 12 year old kid who enjoyed sex with adults (I don’t know your type), there would be prosecutions, the kid would have argued that they feel more traumatized from their adult partner being prosecuted than they did from sex, it would make mainstream news, and there would be a movement (that would have won decades ago) that legalized pedophillia.  But 12 year old kids don’t like having sex.  I never really enjoyed porn or anything similar until I was 14 I think, and just because I liked the porn doesn’t mean I would want to do that in real life.  Pretty much all porn I watch I would never want to emulate.

And how far does the claim, “children can consent” go?  Like would you be okay with legalizing having sex with very drunk people that are awake but loony (like how children usually act)?  I’ve never been drunk, but I’ve seen drunk people in videos before.  They are going to regret any sex they have when they become sober.
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I mostly get my information from "The Trauma Myth" book.

It includes stories about children who liked being in relationships with adults.

Statistically, 90% of adult-child relationships dont include any pain, threats or violence.

An adult knows enough about the danger of STIs to make an informed decision regarding whether or not to have sex.  A 8 year old child doesn’t even know what an STI is.
True. However, children usually get sexual urges at age 12-14.
I believe legally allowing children to marry would be beneficial.
The best way to prevent STI is marriage. Children cannot be protected from sex, since some of them actively seek sex.
However, they can be educated, guided and being allowed to marry.
Its not that children cant know what an STI is. Its that nobody really tells them anything about it.
In marriage, they would have sex with just one person, which is the safest type of sex. 
STI are mostly spread by having multiple partners.
So its not that children shouldnt be allowed to have partners. They are going to have partners anyway.
However, bonding them to just one person with marriage would reduce STI to the greatest.

 Like anecdotaly, my dad laid on me when I was 7 I think the way I would with a consenting woman now (I think it would feel good; but my personal morals prevent me from wanting it)  (but we had clothes on; if it wasn’t, it would have been sex).  I hated when Dad did that.  I wouldn’t say I’m traumatized from it because I didn’t know what it was, but I didn’t like it.  Ironically, he’s against pedophillia even though I think he’s a pedophille.  My sister told me that and I reliezed that I was sexualized as a kid.  This is before I knew pedophillia was a thing, so I hated it.
There are monsters in every group. There are monsters among straight people. There are monsters among gay people. There are monsters among MAP. There is no denying that.

Map is a euphemism to normalize having sex with kids.  You can use it if you want, but I’ll use pedo.
MAP is name to decrease stigma. About 15% of MAP are children and teenagers who feel pressure because of society's judgment.

Fair point.  But if the kid doesn’t like it (I don’t think kids would), then it is rape.  You think kids can consent.  If the kid didn’t want the pedo prosecuted, in court, the kid would have defended the pedo and said that it was consensual.  If that was the standard, I don’t think pedophillia would be as stigmatized as it is now because there would be reports done by mainstream media about how kids are in trauma about their adult lovers being killed.
There are plenty of stories about children loving their adult partner. However, those stories dont make it to the mainstream media.

And how far does the claim, “children can consent” go?  Like would you be okay with legalizing having sex with very drunk people that are awake but loony (like how children usually act)?  I’ve never been drunk, but I’ve seen drunk people in videos before.  They are going to regret any sex they have when they become sober.
Autonomy is not just about person's current choices, but also about his future choices. So if we know that a person will regret something, then better not do that.
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If there was an adult that gave a kid nothing but candy to eat, the kid would also enjoy it most of the time (I wouldn't since I have never liked candy.  But I'm an odd case).  That doesn't mean it's beneficial for the child.
It is in fact harmful for the child, but they certainly consent to eating it. Here is the guy "Sound of Freedom" is based on admitting that pedophiles are seeking consent:


Relationships would be better guided by society. In the USA, 30% of children had sex before 16.
That's a problem.
Perhaps, but not a problem of rape.


Allowing such relationships wouldnt cause every child to have STI.
A lot of kids are going to get STIs, and a lifetime of having STIs isn't worth 3 minutes of sexual pleasure.  At least with pregnancy, that kid would grow up in 19 years.  STIs last with you the rest of your life.
This is extreme over generalization. The most permanent of all 'common' STDs (HIV) has for most intents and purposes been cured.


But most child-child relationships are discovered because it's legal.
That does not follow. Minors often hide their sexual behavior from parents.


Given that adults tend to be very controlling of kids they are close too, it does more harm.
This is the most coherent theory of harm. Specifically the perception of being tricked, deceived, and used by someone you trusted is the source of trauma (excluding rape and kidnapping with their obvious mechanisms of trauma).


With parents, you know the parent is looking out for their kid's best interests
You hope, you don't know.


A 8 year old child doesn’t even know what an STI is.
Nor did anyone know it better than an eight year old can until a hundred years ago. It hardly matters when STIs can be ruled out of a particular context.


If the kid didn’t want the pedo prosecuted, in court, the kid would have defended the pedo and said that it was consensual.  If that was the standard, I don’t think pedophillia would be as stigmatized as it is now because there would be reports done by mainstream media about how kids are in trauma about their adult lovers being killed.
There is missing evidence there, however it can be explained by sacrificing one element of the standard pedo platform: the idea that children are making independent decisions.

I think they'll just feel and say whatever they think the adults around them want, at least when they feel frightened at the consequences (which you can feel even without being threatened with violence).

So they cooperate with pedos and tell them they enjoyed it and they cooperate with cops and parents saying it was horrible.

If that is what's going on in many cases it's proof enough the minor was not ready.


However let’s say every time a white person had sex with a black person, the blacks person called it rape.  Then having sex with black people would get viewed comparably to pedophillia.
I feel like that thought experiment was overly distant and ornate. It also seems to imply that what a court may decide in this bizarre alternate world has any significance, but a society so ready to ignore easily derived truths could hardly be trusted to have reliable judges anymore than our reality.

In any case, one may presume that the blacks in that world who don't feel they've been raped won't be running to the police about it. Thus you would be waiting for the statistically tiny scenario of discovery unwanted by either party, and even then you presume that the culture would accept a black's objections instead of just pitying them further for being "brainwashed and manipulated", however the black person being in fact intelligent could predict that response and thus saves themself by keeping their silence.


If there was a 12 year old kid who enjoyed sex with adults (I don’t know your type), there would be prosecutions, the kid would have argued that they feel more traumatized from their adult partner being prosecuted than they did from sex, it would make mainstream news, and there would be a movement (that would have won decades ago) that legalized pedophillia.
I am not convinced a 12 year old would have been allowed to make such claims, and especially not convinced the media would amplify the message.


But 12 year old kids don’t like having sex.
It's more precise to say of those who would consent to sex of some kind  very few would consent to sex with 'pervy old men', not without some other motivator on the table.


I never really enjoyed porn or anything similar until I was 14 I think, and just because I liked the porn doesn’t mean I would want to do that in real life.  Pretty much all porn I watch I would never want to emulate.
That is unusual, almost as unusual as Korea's claims of prepubescent masturbation.


And how far does the claim, “children can consent” go?  Like would you be okay with legalizing having sex with very drunk people that are awake but loony (like how children usually act)?  I’ve never been drunk, but I’ve seen drunk people in videos before.
Just because there is consent, doesn't mean in should be legal. Your child self would consent to be in the car going 100 mph (your story above) but that doesn't mean it's safe, responsible parenting, or acceptable driving in general.


They are going to regret any sex they have when they become sober.
That is not guaranteed. It's a risk, not a certainty. Something to keep in mind as you have people out there claiming that a married person having sex with a sleeping spouse is rape. (It isn't if they gave blanket consent beforehand which can and does happen).
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A fucking horrible thing to fathom is. 

Could they or should they be able to sell and buy a 5 year old and like 8 year old kid ummm " sex dolls " ?
I mean. 
if it stops a kid from being raped.

Might it stop a kid or two from being molested.? 

My mate has a sheep sex doll and ive NEVER EVER seen him fuck a real sheep. 
But i don't think thats what im asking. 


Kid sex dolls.   
What do you reckon.? 

Wellllll everybody look under your seats.
Yes thats right. 
You are alll going home with your very own  ( deluxe model kids sex doll ) 

What about . 
It has a pump on it whereas on the ummmm. 37 or 53 perhaps,  pulsating  suck , blades come out of it and it instantly chops ya dick into 3 bits 
And it makes cuts in such a way that renders ya knob ummmm unusable.   




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It's more precise to say of those who would consent to sex of some kind  very few would consent to sex with 'pervy old men
Actually, 10% of map are teenagers and children. MAP arent born as old men, even tho many believe that map can only be an old man. It is just a belief meant to further demonization.

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It has a pump on it whereas on the ummmm. 37 or 53 perhaps,  pulsating  suck , blades come out of it and it instantly chops ya dick into 3 bits
Well, that is a strange sex doll. I dont think it would sell well.

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My mate has a sheep sex doll and ive NEVER EVER seen him fuck a real sheep.
I suspect you're not omniscient.... or sane.
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It's more precise to say of those who would consent to sex of some kind  very few would consent to sex with 'pervy old men
Actually, 10% of map are teenagers and children. MAP arent born as old men, even tho many believe that map can only be an old man. It is just a belief meant to further demonization.
Well those teenage hebos better get it while they can. The point remains, the capacity to consent does not in any way mean consent isn't so rare as to be instantly suspect.

I mean take that mutilating sex doll that deb-8 is selling. He could claim that people consented to use it, and it's a theoretical possibility that they did; but it's such a bizarre thing to consent to that intervention is warranted to rule out fraud or extortion.