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@TWS1405
Blacks are not more racist. Blacks react more strongly to racist discrimination. BLM is not a racist movement. It is an appeal to recognize discrimination.
Poll after poll shows black Americans are MORE racist than whites or any other race.
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@Avery
Liberals voted in this poll, too. Same with Black people.
What percentage? It's possible to have liberal and black respondents, but the results to overwhelmingly represent white and right-leaning answers.
Besides, maybe those people who voted were influenced to become Republican after experiencing racism from Black Americans.
Prove it.
why would you think Black people are racist for no reason?).
I doubt anyone believes another group of people is racist for no reason, but I recognize a racist and someone who has been the target of racism might give the same answer.
Is it solid evidence for Black Americans being the most racist in America? Yes.
No, its not. At best, it records what 1000 people believe or want everyone else to believe. The questions make no effort to weed out personal biases or ignorance. How would someone harboring distrust/dislike for another group answer the questions? How would someone who doesn't understand racism answer the questions?
SkepticalOne: Yes, there were two polls referenced in the OP - one reflects the views of a group of right leaning Americans and the other views of South Africans about South Africans. Neither prove black Americans are more racist than other races.
Are you saying the two polls left out the very blacks they were claiming to survey. How racist is that?
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@Shila
Blacks are not more racist. Blacks react more strongly to racist discrimination. BLM is not a racist movement. It is an appeal to recognize discrimination.
Yes, blacks are in fact more racist; and when they cannot find actual cases of racism against them, they make shit up like Jussie Smollett did. You know, like the Duke volleyball player and her hoax of racism against her.
BLM is very much a racist movement. Even against their own.
We don’t need a faux org like BLM (where those who started it steal millions for themselves, creating a lavish lifestyle (while taking money away from those they claim to help) and forgetting all about their involvement with BLM.
FYI: There are actually two American polls referenced in the OP, not just one like Ramshutu said. It's a bit confusing because two of them are from the same website, just with a seven year gap:
So, Ramshutu was actually wrong.
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaBlacks are not more racist. Blacks react more strongly to racist discrimination. BLM is not a racist movement. It is an appeal to recognize discrimination.Yes, blacks are in fact more racist; and when they cannot find actual cases of racism against them, they make shit up like Jussie Smollett did. You know, like the Duke volleyball player and her hoax of racism against her.BLM is very much a racist movement. Even against their own.We don’t need a faux org like BLM (where those who started it steal millions for themselves, creating a lavish lifestyle (while taking money away from those they claim to help) and forgetting all about their involvement with BLM.
Blacks are hoping to bring public awareness that Black Lives Matter. If the movement is getting rich then it must be working. After all blacks are seeking compensation and reparation for slavery when black lives mattered little.
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@SkepticalOne
Liberals voted in this poll, too. Same with Black people.What percentage? It's possible to have liberal and black respondents, but the results to overwhelmingly represent white and right-leaning answers.
We don't need to know this data, but here's where the answer will be: "Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to Platinum Members only."
It doesn't matter with Blacks because they are voting themselves most racist anyway.
So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)
Hence, unless the poll is absolutely stacked with 95% Liberals (which would make it unfairly biased towards one demographic), we don't need to know the exact demographic number breakdown to conclude that Blacks are the most racist.
Besides, maybe those people who voted were influenced to become Republican after experiencing racism from Black Americans.Prove it.why would you think Black people are racist for no reason?).I doubt anyone believes another group of people is racist for no reason, but I recognize a racist and someone who has been the target of racism might give the same answer.
It's totally unreasonable to imply or argue that all or even the majority of poll respondents were voting Black for no reason. Everyone but Liberals is voting that Blacks are the most racist, and even then it's a smallish gap (6%).
It's far more reasonable to assume that people have their reasons for voting that Blacks, Whites or whoever are the most racist, and that this poll is an accurate indicator of who is the most racist.
Is it solid evidence for Black Americans being the most racist in America? Yes.No, its not. At best, it records what 1000 people believe or want everyone else to believe. The questions make no effort to weed out personal biases or ignorance. How would someone harboring distrust/dislike for another group answer the questions? How would someone who doesn't understand racism answer the questions?
You're just super unconvincing when you imply no one in the poll is able to make a judgement on whether a group is racist or not.
People aren't blindly and for no reason voting on these races. They have their reasons so that their judgments are a result of postjudice, not prejudice. That's where the "personal biases" or "harboring dislike" comes from: having dealt with these groups.
You're at conspiratorial levels of denial if you think 1000 people are all incapable of answering a basic question.
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@Avery
We don't need to know this data, but here's where the answer will be: "Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to Platinum Members only."It doesn't matter with Blacks because they are voting themselves most racist anyway.So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)Hence, unless the poll is absolutely stacked with 95% Liberals (which would make it unfairly biased towards one demographic), we don't need to know the exact demographic number breakdown to conclude that Blacks are the most racist.
It was the democrats that voted for Obama a black candidate and did it again to have Obama re-elected. This time they voted for Biden who is white.
So Democrats have proven they are not a racist party.
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@Shila
Blacks are hoping to bring public awareness that Black Lives Matter. If the movement is getting rich then it must be working. After all blacks are seeking compensation and reparation for slavery when black lives mattered little.
Which black lives matter? Seriously! Which ones!?! Because blacks in America have made it perfectly clear that the ONLY black lives that matter are those shot by police or a white person. None of them care about the rampant intraracial violence or the disproportionate number of abortions black girls/women have; and they certainly do not care about those that try to succeed in America, labeling them coons, Uncle Toms, N&**ers, traitors to their own race, and ostracizing them, even with threats of violence. Kind of hard for the public to take notice let alone care when even blacks do not even care about black lives on the whole, only selectively (i.e., race baiting).
The movement is not getting rich, just the founders and corrupt leaders within the organization are. A recent lawsuit was just filed by one chapter against the parent organization for theft of over $10M. BLM is no different than the Jesse "Shakedown" Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world.
Blacks in America no more deserve compensation or reparations for slavery than any other blacks taken from Africa. I mean really, America is the ONLY country where blacks bitch whine and moan about getting something for nothing, everything for free and still demanding more and more. There is no reason for it and it is a bad idea, period.
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@Shila
It was the democrats that voted for Obama a black candidate and did it again to have Obama re-elected. This time they voted for Biden who is white. So Democrats have proven they are not a racist party.
Voting for Biden, rather stealing the election for Biden is part and parcel to the racist and deep power grabbing corruption of democrats. Also note, Biden is a racist to the core. Voting for him proves the long-standing history of the democratic party being racists.
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaBlacks are hoping to bring public awareness that Black Lives Matter. If the movement is getting rich then it must be working. After all blacks are seeking compensation and reparation for slavery when black lives mattered little.Which black lives matter? Seriously! Which ones!?! Because blacks in America have made it perfectly clear that the ONLY black lives that matter are those shot by police or a white person. None of them care about the rampant intraracial violence or the disproportionate number of abortions black girls/women have; and they certainly do not care about those that try to succeed in America, labeling them coons, Uncle Toms, N&**ers, traitors to their own race, and ostracizing them, even with threats of violence. Kind of hard for the public to take notice let alone care when even blacks do not even care about black lives on the whole, only selectively (i.e., race baiting).The movement is not getting rich, just the founders and corrupt leaders within the organization are. A recent lawsuit was just filed by one chapter against the parent organization for theft of over $10M. BLM is no different than the Jesse "Shakedown" Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world.Blacks in America no more deserve compensation or reparations for slavery than any other blacks taken from Africa. I mean really, America is the ONLY country where blacks bitch whine and moan about getting something for nothing, everything for free and still demanding more and more. There is no reason for it and it is a bad idea, period.
Does your attitude towards black have anything to do with your police training?
Blacks would like to see the police defunded.
Black institutions have to be profitable to set an example to the community.
Blacks built America with their free labour as slaves. They also kept the white women satisfied as the white men explored homosexuality and other distractions.
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@Shila
Does your attitude towards black have anything to do with your police training?Blacks would like to see the police defunded.Black institutions have to be profitable to set an example to the community.Blacks built America with their free labour as slaves. They also kept the white women satisfied as the white men explored homosexuality and other distractions.
I have no "attitude" towards anyone. I hold positions based on fact-based truths. Truths written of in studies, books, research, and personal and vicarious experience. Not JUST my training and experiences in law enforcement.
No, blacks do not want to see the police defunded.
No, financial status has no cause and effect on the positive outcome by way of any measure of example to the community, and BLM has proven that 100% factually accurate.
Blacks did NOT build America, that is an asinine ignorant Afrocentrist re-writing of history.
The rest of your commentary just speaks volumes of the level of ignorance that you are displaying.
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaDoes your attitude towards black have anything to do with your police training?Blacks would like to see the police defunded.Black institutions have to be profitable to set an example to the community.Blacks built America with their free labour as slaves. They also kept the white women satisfied as the white men explored homosexuality and other distractions.I have no "attitude" towards anyone. I hold positions based on fact-based truths. Truths written of in studies, books, research, and personal and vicarious experience. Not JUST my training and experiences in law enforcement.No, financial status has no cause and effect on the positive outcome by way of any measure of example to the community, and BLM has proven that 100% factually accurate.Blacks did NOT build America, that is an asinine ignorant Afrocentrist re-writing of history.The rest of your commentary just speaks volumes of the level of ignorance that you are displaying.
States have paid out multimillion dollars settlements to blacks killed by law enforcement officers.
The attorney for George Floyd's family says a $27 million settlement of a federal lawsuit by the city of Minneapolis is the largest pretrial civil rights settlement ever.
The $12 million settlement with Breonna Taylor's family is a historic move for Louisville,
More than $1.5 billion has been spent to settle claims of police misconduct involving thousands of officers repeatedly accused of wrongdoing. Taxpayers are often in the dark.
It is only a matter of time before Reparation is seen as the only viable solution to past injustices.
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@Shila
States have paid out multimillion dollars settlements to blacks killed by law enforcement officers.
Anecdotal evidence =/= facts supporting an across-the-board position.
White families get settlements too. Same for other races/nationalities. Blacks do not hold the Ace/Trump card on anything.
Most paid to blacks are purely to avoid the trial AND any consistent distrust of police OR threats against police. Purely PC!
The attorney for George Floyd's family says a $27 million settlement of a federal lawsuit by the city of Minneapolis is the largest pretrial civil rights settlement ever.
Pure BS payout!!! Floyd killed himself and his family gets paid more money than he would have ever earned in 10 lifetimes. Pure BS!
The $12 million settlement with Breonna Taylor's family is a historic move for Louisville,
Another BS PC payout. The police did nothing wrong. Again, settlements are done to avoid threats to law enforcement and trials. Cause if Taylor's family lost, blacks would have rioted to no end. That's because that's what blacks do when they don't get their way. They riot. They ambush police and murder them. They burn their neighborhoods down.
More than $1.5 billion has been spent to settle claims of police misconduct involving thousands of officers repeatedly accused of wrongdoing. Taxpayers are often in the dark.
Spurious claim. Got some proof.
It is only a matter of time before Reparation is seen as the only viable solution to past injustices.
IT will NEVER happen. NEVER!
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@Avery
It's possible to have liberal and black respondents, but the results to overwhelmingly represent white and right-leaning answers.We don't need to know this data
The demographics of the respondents is relevant. If we are to take the conclusions of the poll as a reflection of pluralistic American opinion, knowing the demographics is representative of the American populace is important.
It doesn't matter with Blacks because they are voting themselves most racist anyway.
Where did you get that? I see no break down of showing 100% blacks think they are the most racist. In fact, this poll shows "Blacks see themselves, whites, Hispanics and Asians as equally racist."
It's totally unreasonable to imply or argue that all or even the majority of poll respondents were voting Black [...]
I'll stop you short. The article says of the 75% that acknowledged racism as "any discrimination by people of one race against another", only 27% thought blacks were racist. 75% of 1000 is 750 and 27% of that is ~202...far from a majority. Even if we add those who preferred the other definition for racism (15%), only 21% voted black.. .that's another ~31 people. Rasmussen itself admits to only 25% of respondents voting against blacks:
"[...]25% believe most black Americans are racist."
Whites or whoever are the most racist, and that this poll is an accurate indicator of who is the most racist.
According to this poll, as high as 75% of respondents don't think blacks are racist. In other words, most Americans don't think blacks (or other races) are racist.
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@Shila
We don't need to know this data, but here's where the answer will be: "Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to Platinum Members only."It doesn't matter with Blacks because they are voting themselves most racist anyway.So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)Hence, unless the poll is absolutely stacked with 95% Liberals (which would make it unfairly biased towards one demographic), we don't need to know the exact demographic number breakdown to conclude that Blacks are the most racist.It was the democrats that voted for Obama a black candidate and did it again to have Obama re-elected. This time they voted for Biden who is white.So Democrats have proven they are not a racist party.
Your arbitrary standard is laughable.
Lol.
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@SkepticalOne
It's possible to have liberal and black respondents, but the results to overwhelmingly represent white and right-leaning answers.We don't need to know this dataThe demographics of the respondents is relevant. If we are to take the conclusions of the poll as a reflection of pluralistic American opinion, knowing the demographics is representative of the American populace is important.
We know the demographics voting on this poll already: Republican, Democrat, Black, White, Hispanic etc. Why are you regressing back to this point?
You should be addressing my claim (since you quoted it) of: "we don't need to know this data". That referred specifically to your demand to have raw, aggregate numbers of each demographic, of which we don't need. I explained why in the following paragraph, of which you've manage to drop and not address:
"So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)
Hence, unless the poll is absolutely stacked with 95% Liberals (which would make it unfairly biased towards one demographic), we don't need to know the exact demographic number breakdown to conclude that Blacks are the most racist."
It doesn't matter with Blacks because they are voting themselves most racist anyway.Where did you get that? I see no break down of showing 100% blacks think they are the most racist. In fact, this poll shows "Blacks see themselves, whites, Hispanics and Asians as equally racist."
Blacks are voting Blacks as majority racist more frequently than they are voting any other race. Hence, we conclude that Blacks believe Blacks are the most racist.
We don't need "100%" of Blacks voting Blacks to make that point.
It's totally unreasonable to imply or argue that all or even the majority of poll respondents were voting Black [...]I'll stop you short. The article says of the 75% that acknowledged racism as "any discrimination by people of one race against another", only 27% thought blacks were racist. 75% of 1000 is 750 and 27% of that is ~202...far from a majority. Even if we add those who preferred the other definition for racism (15%), only 21% voted black.. .that's another ~31 people. Rasmussen itself admits to only 25% of respondents voting against blacks:"[...]25% believe most black Americans are racist."
The title of this thread is this: "poll after poll shows black Americans are more racist than whites or any other race". The title is not: "100% of the American population think that Blacks are racist".
We're dealing with who is the *most* racist, in that they are "more" racist than other race.
Blacks are winning in every category except Democrat (and even then, that's by a 6% split -- small margin).
Therefore, Blacks are shown as "more" racist than any other racial demographic, hence the OP's title is correct.
Also, you dropped all of the following, so I'll just assume you agree with it all:
"You're just super unconvincing when you imply no one in the poll is able to make a judgement on whether a group is racist or not.
People aren't blindly and for no reason voting on these races. They have their reasons so that their judgments are a result of postjudice, not prejudice. That's where the "personal biases" or "harboring dislike" comes from: having dealt with these groups.
You're at conspiratorial levels of denial if you think 1000 people are all incapable of answering a basic question."
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@Avery
You should be addressing my claim (since you quoted it) of: "we don't need to know this data".
And your claim is wrong because you easily lose the ball when percentages are presented. If only 25 respondents are black, then claims that '44% of black people believe X' would be referring to 11 people out of 1000. If 1000 respondents were black it would be referring to 440 people out of 1000. There is a pretty big difference between 1.1% and 44% of respondents. We need this data to better understand the poll results.
I explained why in the following paragraph, of which you've manage to drop and not address:"So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)
You think this is a point worth repeating? That statistic comes from the 2013 poll rather than the 2020 - you're referring to old data. Beyond that, the fact you think the difference between 27% of liberals indicating white Americans are racist and 21% indicating blacks are racist is significant illustrates you don't understand the poll. It could have been that 100% of 'group X' indicated whites, and blacks, and Hispanics, and Asians were all racist. The questions were independent from one another.
Blacks are voting Blacks as majority racist more frequently than they are voting any other race. Hence, we conclude that Blacks believe Blacks are the most racist.
I see no info being provided regarding how blacks voted on blacks. Ive already shown how the Rasmussen article refutes this assertion. Blacks view all races equally racist. You pulled that stat out of thin air.
Therefore, Blacks are shown as "more" racist than any other racial demographic, hence the OP's title is correct.
That is a misrepresentation of what the poll shows. It doesn't show blacks are more racist- it shows more people (a small minority of people) think blacks are racist.
...and also, there was really only one relevant poll, so 'poll after poll' was also hyperbolic.
Also, you dropped all of the following, so I'll just assume you agree with it all:
It wasn't dropped. It has either already been addressed and/or it is a strawman. Repetitions and misrepresentation speaks to your dishonesty. Keeping it out of my reply speaks to me having better things to do than entertain you.
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@Avery
--> @ShilaWe don't need to know this data, but here's where the answer will be: "Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to Platinum Members only."It doesn't matter with Blacks because they are voting themselves most racist anyway.So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)Hence, unless the poll is absolutely stacked with 95% Liberals (which would make it unfairly biased towards one demographic), we don't need to know the exact demographic number breakdown to conclude that Blacks are the most racist.It was the democrats that voted for Obama a black candidate and did it again to have Obama re-elected. This time they voted for Biden who is white.So Democrats have proven they are not a racist party.Your arbitrary standard is laughable.Lol.
Electing a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.
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@Shila
Electing a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.
And yet blacks supported Trump more than Biden AND Obama.
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaElecting a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.And yet blacks supported Trump more than Biden AND Obama.
The majority of blacks are democrats.
The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.
So more than 2.87 million Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.
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@Shila
--> @ShilaElecting a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.And yet blacks supported Trump more than Biden AND Obama.The majority of blacks are democrats.The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.So more than 2.87 million Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.
Non-Sequitur argument.
Notwithstanding, he carried far more states than she did; and as a result, he won the electoral college. She lost. Deal with it.
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@TWS1405
--> @Shila--> @ShilaElecting a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.And yet blacks supported Trump more than Biden AND Obama.The majority of blacks are democrats.The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.So more than 2.87 million Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.Non-Sequitur argument.Notwithstanding, he carried far more states than she did; and as a result, he won the electoral college. She lost. Deal with it.
But Trump is a one term president. Twice impeached and criminally investigated for tax fraud, election sedition, obstruction of Justice and conspiring to compromise national security.
Hillary warned the republicans about Trump.
BTW Bush W. also lost the popular vote to Gore.
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@Shila
The majority of blacks are democrats.The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.So more than 2.87 million Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.Non-Sequitur argument.Notwithstanding, he carried far more states than she did; and as a result, he won the electoral college. She lost. Deal with it.But Trump is a one term president. Twice impeached and criminally investigated for tax fraud, election sedition, obstruction of Justice and conspiring to compromise national security.Hillary warned the republicans about Trump.BTW Bush W. also lost the popular vote to Gore.
Trump being a one term president means nothing.
The impeachments were a witch hunt, completely fabricated.
Sure he may have been investigated, but never charged and convicted. Again, more witch hunts from the left because they cannot stand an outsider being on the inside.
Hillary compromised national security. She was a clear and present danger to our republic. Both Clintons are.
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@SkepticalOne
You should be addressing my claim (since you quoted it) of: "we don't need to know this data".And your claim is wrong because you easily lose the ball when percentages are presented. If only 25 respondents are black, then claims that '44% of black people believe X' would be referring to 11 people out of 1000. If 1000 respondents were black it would be referring to 440 people out of 1000. There is a pretty big difference between 1.1% and 44% of respondents. We need this data to better understand the poll results.
No, this is all unnecessary to reach the OP's conclusion.
The fact is that all racial and most political groups believe that Blacks are most racist. So, unless you're heavily stacking Democrat's voting, the ratios of the rest don't matter.
I explained why in the following paragraph, of which you've manage to drop and not address:"So it's only Liberals who buck the trend with this: "Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans." That 6% gap isn't going to be enough to cover all the other gaps from the other demographics (White, Asian, Hispanic, Republican, no strong political belief etc.)You think this is a point worth repeating? That statistic comes from the 2013 poll rather than the 2020 - you're referring to old data.
True, and that's because the 2020 data cited in the article did not address this data point. So, we should use the latest data point available: the 2013 data. That would be the most parsimonious thing to do, rather than assume anything wildly different.
Beyond that, the fact you think the difference between 27% of liberals indicating white Americans are racist and 21% indicating blacks are racist is significant illustrates you don't understand the poll. It could have been that 100% of 'group X' indicated whites, and blacks, and Hispanics, and Asians were all racist. The questions were independent from one another.
*sigh*
We're looking to see who is the most racist. If we were to just ask Democrats, the result would be that Whites are most racist (at 27% -- that percentage is higher than any other given by Democrats). If we don't see the other statistics (such as 21% Democrats voting that most Blacks are racist), then we can't know who is the most racist lol.
So yes, the questions were "independent from one another", and that doesn't matter in the slightest.
Blacks are voting Blacks as majority racist more frequently than they are voting any other race. Hence, we conclude that Blacks believe Blacks are the most racist.I see no info being provided regarding how blacks voted on blacks. Ive already shown how the Rasmussen article refutes this assertion. Blacks view all races equally racist. You pulled that stat out of thin air.
Yes, I pulled the stat out of "thin air" by referring to the 2013 study. Profound logic, my dude.
The issue with the 2020 data is that it highlights a defunct definition of racism: "Among adults who think racism refers only to discrimination by whites". These people should be excluded from the data as their definition not only begs the question, but is obviously incorrect (i.e. any race can discriminate against another).
So, we should remove those votes made with faulty logic, of which will remove a percentage of the Black vote. Since the faulty definition people voted Whites most racist (36% compared to 21% for Blacks being most racist), we can assume that the conclusion of "Blacks view all races equally racist", changes to the same conclusion of the 2013 data: Blacks view themselves as most racist.
Therefore, Blacks are shown as "more" racist than any other racial demographic, hence the OP's title is correct.That is a misrepresentation of what the poll shows. It doesn't show blacks are more racist- it shows more people (a small minority of people) think blacks are racist.
The most common data point is this: most Blacks are racist.
In other words, that is what is being voted for most times across the political spectrum of America.
Hence, concluding that Blacks are the most racist in America naturally follows.
...and also, there was really only one relevant poll, so 'poll after poll' was also hyperbolic.
There was more than one poll.
Also, you dropped all of the following, so I'll just assume you agree with it all:It wasn't dropped. It has either already been addressed and/or it is a strawman. Repetitions and misrepresentation speaks to your dishonesty. Keeping it out of my reply speaks to me having better things to do than entertain you.
Neither of your assertions are true.
Not once did you further discuss people's ability to determine to judge racism (if you think you did, quote it) after my following response:
"You're just super unconvincing when you imply no one in the poll is able to make a judgement on whether a group is racist or not.
People aren't blindly and for no reason voting on these races. They have their reasons so that their judgments are a result of postjudice, not prejudice. That's where the "personal biases" or "harboring dislike" comes from: having dealt with these groups.
You're at conspiratorial levels of denial if you think 1000 people are all incapable of answering a basic question."
This is not a strawman argument because it addresses the underlying claim you made: people are not capable of determining racism (due to "personal biases" or "harboring dislike").
Refusing to defend arguments you made makes you drop them.
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@Shila
It was the democrats that voted for Obama a black candidate and did it again to have Obama re-elected. This time they voted for Biden who is white.So Democrats have proven they are not a racist party.Your arbitrary standard is laughable.Lol.Electing a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.
Oh you're right. It's not an arbitrary standard because you say it's not.
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@TWS1405
--> @ShilaThe majority of blacks are democrats.The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.So more than 2.87 million Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.Non-Sequitur argument.Notwithstanding, he carried far more states than she did; and as a result, he won the electoral college. She lost. Deal with it.But Trump is a one term president. Twice impeached and criminally investigated for tax fraud, election sedition, obstruction of Justice and conspiring to compromise national security.Hillary warned the republicans about Trump.BTW Bush W. also lost the popular vote to Gore.Trump being a one term president means nothing.The impeachments were a witch hunt, completely fabricated.Sure he may have been investigated, but never charged and convicted. Again, more witch hunts from the left because they cannot stand an outsider being on the inside.Hillary compromised national security. She was a clear and present danger to our republic. Both Clintons are.
Hillary was cleared even by James Comey.
Trump was impeached twice.
Trump Org to be charged with tax fraud. NY.
Georgia investigating election fraud by Trump.
Jan 6 committee investigating trumps efforts to overturn 2020 election results.
FBI/DOJ investigating criminal obstruction of Justice by Trump and stealing classified documents from National Archives.
Trump university fined 25 million.
Trump accused of sexual assaults by some 25 women.
Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain.
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@Shila
Hillary was cleared even by James Comey.
Bwaaahaahaahaaa!!!! Comey didn't clear her. He doesn't have the power or the authority to clear her. In fact, he said she did do wrong but likely no "reasonable prosecutor" would take the case. It was a BS excuse and you know it!!!
Trump was impeached twice.
Witch hunt twice.
Trump Org to be charged with tax fraud. NY.
Until then, this is a meaningless statement of desperation.
Georgia investigating election fraud by Trump.
Witch hunt.
Jan 6 committee investigating trumps efforts to overturn 2020 election results.
Witch hunt.
FBI/DOJ investigating criminal obstruction of Justice by Trump and stealing classified documents from National Archives.
None of the documents are classified. As POTUS he has the blanket authority to declassify anything he deems fit.
Trump university fined 25 million.
No, it wasn't.
Trump accused of sexual assaults by some 25 women.
Most proven false, some recanted, and none carried the weight of a formal investigation leading to any formal charges and indictments.
Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain.
Who hasn't misused funds for their own gain?
Your desperation is loud and clear, as is your intellectual cowardice.
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@Shila
P.S. You've derailed this thread long enough with this trump crap. Either get back on topic or piss off (as the Brits would say), as I won't reply to this liberal nonsense any further.
Are you, like, paid to be this racist by the Russians or something?