Your usage of "heavily biased" is disingenuous and is essentially Ad Hom. You're implying that the republican responses are illegitimate because they're republican. In the same way, I could just easily say that the Liberal input was also "heavily biased" because they're Liberal, but I don't do that because it's Ad Hom attempting to be legitimate criticism -- logically fallacious.
Even if you were right (you're not), we could say that the heavy bias was evened out because both sides were "heavily biased".
There's no world in which you are correct.
Firstly - do you understand what an Ad Hom is? Too many people throw our fallacies like buzzwords, without explaining how or why they apply - as is saying it makes it true: An ad hominem attack is where I make an attack on the person making an argument instead of addressing their argument. Can you please explain how either of those apply.
Now; if you look at the data: Republicans we’re +37 white black difference, way higher than any other listed groups +/-.That isn’t balanced out by liberals who were -6.
What this means is that the headline number is skewed because one individual group had an extreme response. The broader point of Americans thinking a>b; is in no small part because a group we suspected believed a>b believe a>b very strongly.
This is the only point I was making; it a statistical one.
Oh, so you are going to crazy conspiratorial levels to deny the poll results.
Yes, everyone else is wrong but you. People are never right when they disagree with you. Everyone in the poll was drunk, confused, paid shills, hallucinating etc.
No - that would be an absurd misrepresentation. You largely ignored my point and just restated this silly argument:
Perceptions are perceptions they are sometimes true; often not. Are perceptions of how smart people are based on how they look accurate? are peoples perception of risk accurate? No.
You are asserting that the perception is accurate. That is assuming your preferred conclusion. We do not know the perception is accurate; it could be right - it could be very wrong.
You are falsely asserting that I am suggesting that perception is definitely wrong I am not. I am saying that it’s simply perception - and doesn’t show what’s real, only what people think is real - those two things often differ.
69% haven't experienced or witnessed sufficient racism from Blacks to conclude that most of them are racist. Believe it or not, Blacks aren't racist all the time. It's possible to interact with Black people and have them not be racist.
And how exactly do you know this? Is this in any of the polls, is this supported by any data? Or are you just pulling it out of your ass?
What about the slightly higher percentage talking about whites? On what basis are you concluding that that 70+% is absolutely right and haven't simply experienced white racism? Does that imply the 20+% of people who think whites are racists have experience that racism?
Perhaps that 31% had one or two bad experiences that coloured everything else they see?
We don’t know - the poll doesn’t show it; so without relying on your assumptions, you can’t really say anything.
What you’re doing is just pulling whatever assumptions that allow you to draw your conclusion. Nothing about this comes from the polls.
Rather, what the data is capturing is when people see enough racism to conclude that the racial group is racist. Blacks are winning in that category, hence why they've been awarded the 'most racist' award.
How do you know thats what it’s capturing? Is there a reason to beleive all - or enough -responds when asked “are Black Americans mostly racist” in a robocall are basing this on upon severity and quantity.
Why does that not apply to whites too?
Again - to suggest the poll says what you claim; you have to assume about the response that you can’t possibly know, nor have any reason whatsoever to believe is true.
We're not asking 'who is the most racist and how racist are they?'-, we're asking 'who is the most racist?'
You’re asking who is the most racist. If you don’t mean “how racist they are” then let’s be accurate to avoid any equivocation:
“Poll shows slightly more people think most black people are racist than think most white people are racist: does not show how racist either group is perceived”
The reason being is that “most racist” has multiple interpretation.
It could mean more blacks as a percentage of blacks are racist than are whites. IE: quantity (but the poll doesn’t ask any question by which this information can derived)
It could also means blacks are more racist - ie more strongly racist.
If you’re agreeing that the op means the forms rather than the latter - then you’re still wrong; but we’d better clear you the ambiguous language to avoid accidents. No?
What the poll collects is people's experiences of racism.
No it doesn’t - that’s pulled out of your ass again - it collects perceptions not experiences
There are indeed polls about experiences of racism - all the ones I’ve seen show whites having a far smaller experience of racism than any other race.
Blacks are being voted as the most racist, so they're the most racist. We don't need the precise level of their racism to determine that fact.
Hence, the two questions are close enough to measure the same thing: who is more racist?
So the above posts amount to:
Of course I don’t mean more racist.
Of course I don’t mean more racist.
Of course I don’t mean more racist.
Of course I mean more racist.
What you did here: is go through my post and repeatedly agree - that these polls don’t show that blacks are more racist than whites.
Then you assert that it actually does show black are more racist than whites.
For literally no reason.
Wrong.
I said they're "close enough", not the same thing.
You're failing to even get direct quotes correct.
Direct quotes normally have quotations “” - if I’m not quoting you, don’t say it’s a quote.
I’m happy to amend my quote:
I’m bang on - actually: this post is just you asserting they actually pretty much mean the same thing - they really don’t at all (see above)
The poll in no way shape or form makes any comment on whether blacks are more racist, it’s polling people on whether they think 51% or more of blacks, whites and Hispanic’s are racist - how racist doesn’t figure in, how much above that 51% isn’t included - no questions coming close to getting that information was asked.
The only way you can assume that’s what the poll meant, or even came close to meaning is if make things up about it - like you have above.
