Well I already told you my issue with your “version”, you went on to list three examples of right subjective answers then backpedaled by agreeing there objective under a given pretense, no wonder why you’re a subjectivity advocate because you can’t keep your arguments objectively consistent.
The “given pretense” you are describing is called logic.
Logic begins with a given set of premises. From there, in a deductive argument, the conclusion follows necessarily from the premises.
If A, then B
A
Therefore…
The conclusion to this is not up for debate any more than 2+2=4 is up for debate. In that sense, B is necessarily the conclusion. In other words, it is objectively the conclusion.
But it is only the conclusion if premise one is accepted.
Morality is that which aligns to God.
X aligns to God.
Therefore X is…
Moral or immoral?
The conclusion from these premises is again, not debatable. Changing the word “God” in the above to “well being” does not change the logic of the equation. In other words, it’s objectivity remains in impacted by whatever you plug in at the start.
The fact that the conclusion can be reached objectively however, has nothing to do with whether the statement itself is necessarily true.
When I talk about objectivity being necessarily subjective, I’m talking about from the standpoint of the premises. Where it is objective is from the standpoint of the conclusion from the premises.
This is really basic stuff, so it’s baffling that after all these days/weeks, you still don’t understand it to the point where you have convinced yourself that I’m arguing against myself.
Let’s try this one more time. Slowly.
The standard for morality will always be chosen subjectively, therefore any claim that X is moral/immoral will always ultimately be subjective.
Once a standard is assumed at the outset, X will always be objectively moral/immoral within the framework set by the standard chosen.
Every argument I’ve made in this thread has followed these basic concepts. The only thing inconsistent is your understanding of the conversation you are engaged in.