I just converted to Catholicism, ask me anything.

Sabbath definition: a day of religious observance and abstinence from work, kept by Jewish people from Friday evening to Saturday evening, and by most Christians on Sunday.

You reduced Christ to a Sunday. When Christians are expected to believe Jesus is God.

You must belong to one of those cult denominations.

Interestingly, it is the cults which consider the Sabbath still Saturday.   Let me make an exception for the Jewish religion. Yet, it is not Christian in any event.  the church has celebrated Sunday as its day of worship since the beginning of the church.  

Christians don't actually celebrate the Sabbath. Yes, many Christians at times equate the Sabbath with the day of rest - and since Sunday is the day we now worship and a day of traditional rest - there has been a crossover in people's minds.  Yet, Christians get their definitions of the Sabbath and of the Lord's Day from the Scriptures, not from the dictionary like those who don't understand the religion. 

I never reduced Christ to a Sunday. What a nonsense.  

I don’t see Tradesecret coming back from this level of shellacking.

How do you pray "on behalf" of someone when the only mediator between a person and God is Jesus? (This is explicitly stated in the Bible.)

Catholics hold to the view that Mary is not dead.  

This is an assumption based on a misinterpreted premise, i.e. Mary is the "mother of God." Mary is not the mother of God; she's the mother of Jesus's corporeal/human body, whereas God created Jesus soul/spirit. 

Where does it state that? Wasn't it the martyrs who petitioned God? 

My purpose was to look at the substance

The "substance" is explicitly stated, "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." Not having graven images of Mary, or even Jesus himself, would convince me that they're not items of worship.

The bible forbids such items -

No, the Bible expresses God's condemnation of such items straight out. In fact, when God commands that these items are not to worshiped, it's because God states jealousy as the reason. God provides NO CAVEAT when it comes to creating and possessing these items. 

For example. Peter in the book of Acts -

Where in ACTS does it specify that Peter had to eat pig? Is the chapter to which you're referring really about Peter/Simon eating "bacon" or "ham," or his questioning God's authority, and segregating himself from those who he considered "common" and "unclean"?

Yet in the NT - since Christ fulfilled all things including the sacrifices 

Where does it state this?

I've shown you two images of the Vatican's Audience Hall: (1) one of its interior design, and (2) one of its exterior design. Both look like the head of a serpent. Where is the distortion? I do believe that Catholics like an overwhelming majority of Christian denominations are being coaxed into accepting Luciferian rituals, because the Pope and the Catholic elite, I suspect, ARE LUCIFIERIANS--the pope himself being Lucifer's vicar. 

I have seen other images since you raised this picture which reveal it in a completely different light. I don't hold to the view that catholic church are luciferians. Sorry, that is a rabbit hole, I think is unhelpful.  I am reformed and I hold to the WCF. We even think the pope is the anti-christ. go and look it up.  Presbyterians - are even on the heretic list put out by the catholics.  Yet I think that it is nonsense to suggest it is satan worship. 
 
 
I am not Catholic - so my views on his mistakes would be biased. I think he stuffed up in relation to the handling of child sex matters. I think he was probably corrup. 
 
We don't know this. Pure speculation based on nothing except hatred for the guy. 
 
Yes, he did.
No, he didn't. And you yourself have set the premise as to the reason a Sunday (morning) resurrection was not the case.

 
The NT clearly says he rose early on the first day of the week.  I also think he prob died on Wednesday - 
 
 
Note that in John 20, it states that Mary Magdeline went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, to discover that not only the stone covering the tomb had been moved but also the tomb was empty. It's also important to note that because of  Sabbath, she with Mary, mother of James, and Salome would have been forbidden from performing any labors as in gathering aromatic spices and moving the Stone which entombed Jesus's body. The Bible does not state that Jesus resurrects upon discovery of his empty tomb. Jesus himself stated when he would resurrect. And by all rational counts, that would exclude a "Sunday Morning" resurrection as we understand it. So why do Catholics observe the resurrection on Sunday--our Sundays (Sunday morning-Sunday evening)? 

 
So you understand then. good. 
 
I do understand. I'm not quite confident that you do. Hebrews points out that Jesus's sacrifice does not provide a substitute for keeping faith with God. I don't know from where you've gleaned this notion that the chapters somehow expresses the elimination or re-designation of the weekly Sabbath. 

 
Because Christ is our sabbath.  
That does not answer anything. Because Catholics have still particularized and designated a "Sabbath day," which is Sunday. Since you've assumed their proxy, I'm asking, "why?"

Actually, in the Bible the sabbath is just another term for holiday.  It is a holy day. And was more than just the 7th day of the week.  

In the week of Jesus death for instance - there was the passover.  It was a holiday - a high sabbath.   And it was not on the 7th day of the week - but dependent upon the moon.  

Because the mediator which is spoken about in Hebrews is the atonement - the cross.  Not prayer.  Only Jesus could make that sacrifice on the cross - since only he was perfect in himself - without sin. No one else can be the mediator. 

It is not talking about prayer.   The bible clearly says Jesus prays for us. It also says the Holy Spirit prays for us.  the Spirit of God is not Jesus. So how does the Spirit of God intercede for us?  

We are commanded to pray for and on behalf of other people. This is called intercession.  Intercessionary prayer is normal in every church I have ever seen.   We pray that God will heal someone. Or pray that God will comfort someone.  We pray that God will forgive people for their sins.  

Athias, I am not Catholic.  I don't pray to Mary.  I think Mary is dead.  I think the Catholics misinterpret lots of things.  I was providing a reason for why they hold to this view. Not saying I agree with it.  

Having said that - the creeds call her the Mother of God. God created a body - and breathed into it - and it became a living soul. Jesus is fully God and fully man. Mary was clearly the mother of Jesus.  

I'm not a Catholic. And I am not sure whether the author is coming back or has left for good. But I will take a stab at what Catholics are likely to say in respect of your questions:

Read the verses and find it yourself. 

The martyrs - those under the altar, petitioned God - and said how much longer - before you will avenge us?  Clearly if this is a picture of heaven, then it leads to the conclusion that people in heaven know what is going on in earth and pray or petition God to assist. 

Again, I am protestant.

Yet, the substance of the commandment is about worship.   Don't worship anything except God. What it doesn't say is - don't make anything at all.  

Again, you would need to define worship as you understand it.

Catholics don't consider it worship. 

Its contained within the whole story of the vision he had - with respect to the Gentiles.  The point was clear. What God calls clean is clean.  Pig was unclean in the OT and something happened when Jesus came - that changed it from being unclean to clean. the same with the Gentiles. they were unclean in the OT and yet something happened which made them clean.  The principle of interpretation is that Jesus is the intervening event.  How did his coming fulfil the law so that Gentiles could become part of the family of God? 

In relation to the Sabbath, Christ is our rest.  Again read the book of Hebrews.   Read Paul's writings where he says - no one particular day is more sacred than another.  We celebrate Sunday because that is the day that Christ rose from the dead - on the first day of the week. It is the day the Christians met to worship. How do we know that they weren't meeting on the Jewish Sabbath? Because they were collecting money.  Something which was forbidden on the Sabbath.

The bible - NT clearly says Jesus rose on the first day of the week. 

Matthew 28:1-4 reveals the women went to the grave  on the first day of the week. Dawn. So half way through the first day.

Mark 16:9 "when Jesus rose early on the first day of the week". 

Luke 24:1 "on the first day of the week the woman went early in the morning. " Again halfway through the first day. 

John 20:1 early on the first day of the week, the woman arrived at the empty tomb. 

 

so the gospels indicate the woman went early on the first day of the week. Mark indicates Jesus rose on that day.  It is the day that the apostles and the Christians met and worshiped. I think it is pretty clear.   

I' not sure you do.  the Sabbath is not eliminated.  It is ongoing.  the sabbath has not been redesignated.  the sabbath is the sabbath. We are in a new age since Christ arrived and died and rose again.  We worship Christ on Sunday the first day of the week - the 8th day of the week.  we rest in Christ continually as we await for his return. 

It does actually.  You don't like the answer. I can see that.

What Catholics do is on them.

What day do the Orthodox celebrate church?

Every major denomination in the world agrees.

It has been the way since the beginning of the church.

It can't be put on the Roman Catholics.  

Sin? From Adam and Eve.  People in power often have opportunities. 

I don't agree. It is human sin.  And sin is universal.  

I am not saying otherwise.  Yet, by looking at the Catholic Church without recognizing the prevalence in the society universally

1.     Why do (Catholics) celebrate the date of Jesus's birth on Christmas, December 25th

I like the explanation that says God would often start and finish events on the same date.  For instance the passover in Exodus and the crossing into the land of Israel over the river Jordan 40 days to the day later.  A common occurrence in Jewish history. 

 

Applying that Jesus' birth is quite simple really. If we don't know specifically when he was born. We find out when he died. Easy. Passover in a particular year.  That just happens to be in that particular year March 25.  Jesus died on March 25.   If he was conceived on the same date - March 25 - move forward 9 months - December 25.  not that difficult really. And it makes sense. 

Why is the observance of  the resurrection named "Easter"?

the obvious answer is easter is the name of a pagan deity.  And thence it is following after a festival held on the same day.  And probably there is truth to this. That a crossover of events - led many to call it Easter.  

I'm not really sure what the problem is.   It is vey likely in a world where people exist - that nations and groups of people celebrate events on the same day.

I have a birthday next week

- which I am sure others - probably millions of people will also be celebrating their birthday. Does that make mine any less true or significant?

Easter is a name.

I do believe that Catholics like an overwhelming majority of Christian denominations are being coaxed into accepting Luciferian rituals, because the Pope and the Catholic elite, I suspect, ARE LUCIFIERIANS--the pope himself being Lucifer's vicar.

I wonder whether you refuse to use the names of the days of the week. And if you do - use them - does that make you a suspicious character - a luciferian for instance.

But we can also appreciate that names such as Easter, or the days of the week - are actually about unity rather than trying to worship some kind of false god.  

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Because the mediator which is spoken about in Hebrews is the atonement - the cross.  Not prayer.  Only Jesus could make that sacrifice on the cross - since only he was perfect in himself - without sin. No one else can be the mediator. 

It is not talking about prayer.   The bible clearly says Jesus prays for us. It also says the Holy Spirit prays for us.  the Spirit of God is not Jesus. So how does the Spirit of God intercede for us?  

We are commanded to pray for and on behalf of other people. This is called intercession.  Intercessionary prayer is normal in every church I have ever seen.   We pray that God will heal someone. Or pray that God will comfort someone.  We pray that God will forgive people for their sins.  

Athias, I am not Catholic.  I don't pray to Mary.  I think Mary is dead.  I think the Catholics misinterpret lots of things.  I was providing a reason for why they hold to this view. Not saying I agree with it.  

Having said that - the creeds call her the Mother of God. God created a body - and breathed into it - and it became a living soul. Jesus is fully God and fully man. Mary was clearly the mother of Jesus.  

I'm not suggesting that you're Catholic. You assumed their proxy when you stated this:

I'm not a Catholic. And I am not sure whether the author is coming back or has left for good. But I will take a stab at what Catholics are likely to say in respect of your questions:

Perhaps you intended to have me understand their reasons, but you are in effect defending their reasons. 

As far as Mary's being the "mother of God," the dispute I have is in eliding the distinction: Mary was charged with the responsibility of giving birth to Jesus. She gave birth to Jesus "the Man"; Just as Joseph sired Jesus "the man"; Neither of them "conceived/created" Jesus "extension/son of God."

Read the verses and find it yourself.  

I have. 

The martyrs - those under the altar, petitioned God - and said how much longer - before you will avenge us?  Clearly if this is a picture of heaven, then it leads to the conclusion that people in heaven know what is going on in earth and pray or petition God to assist. 

Where does it state that the souls of the martyrs were in heaven?

Again, I am protestant.

Again, I am questioning you as a Catholic proxy since you volunteered to answer my previous on the basis of your impressions of Catholicism. 

Yet, the substance of the commandment is about worship.   Don't worship anything except God. What it doesn't say is - don't make anything at all.  

Actually, that's EXACTLY what it states. Otherwise the text would have simply stated, "don't worship." But text states DON'T MAKE them AND DON'T WORSHIP them. 

Again, you would need to define worship as you understand it.

I don't have to define worship, because my contention suffices on their creating and possessing them alone. But if you require a definition, the standard one will do, or any that is synonymous with idolatry.

Catholics don't consider it worship. 

That's where my questions come in.

Its contained within the whole story of the vision he had - with respect to the Gentiles.  The point was clear. What God calls clean is clean.  Pig was unclean in the OT and something happened when Jesus came - that changed it from being unclean to clean. the same with the Gentiles. they were unclean in the OT and yet something happened which made them clean.  The principle of interpretation is that Jesus is the intervening event.  How did his coming fulfil the law so that Gentiles could become part of the family of God? 

Is the chapter to which you're referring really about Peter/Simon eating "bacon" or "ham," or his questioning God's authority, and segregating himself from those whom he considered "common" and "unclean"?

In relation to the Sabbath, Christ is our rest.  Again read the book of Hebrews.   Read Paul's writings where he says - no one particular day is more sacred than another.  We celebrate Sunday because that is the day that Christ rose from the dead - on the first day of the week. It is the day the Christians met to worship. How do we know that they weren't meeting on the Jewish Sabbath? Because they were collecting money.  Something which was forbidden on the Sabbath.

No, you don't just celebrate on Sunday; you observe the weekly Sabbath on Sunday. And your response is that since Christ has become your rest, you've opted to observe Sabbath (veneration or rest) on the day you allege he resurrected despite no explicit instruction in the Bible to do this.

The bible - NT clearly says Jesus rose on the first day of the week. 

Matthew 28:1-4 reveals the women went to the grave  on the first day of the week. Dawn. So half way through the first day.

Mark 16:9 "when Jesus rose early on the first day of the week". 

Luke 24:1 "on the first day of the week the woman went early in the morning. " Again halfway through the first day. 

John 20:1 early on the first day of the week, the woman arrived at the empty tomb. 

 

so the gospels indicate the woman went early on the first day of the week. Mark indicates Jesus rose on that day.  It is the day that the apostles and the Christians met and worshiped. I think it is pretty clear.   

I've provided you a count. Do you dispute this count? End of the Weekly Sabbath is the same as the end of the seventh day, which would have been Saturday at sundown. Jesus indicated himself that he would resurrect three days and three nights after he was entombed which would have been Saturday at sundown. So why doesn't the observance of the resurrection by Catholics start Saturday at sundown? 

I' not sure you do.  the Sabbath is not eliminated.  It is ongoing.  the sabbath has not been redesignated.  the sabbath is the sabbath. We are in a new age since Christ arrived and died and rose again.  We worship Christ on Sunday the first day of the week - the 8th day of the week.  we rest in Christ continually as we await for his return. 

And I'm asking, "why Sunday" if the first day of the week would have started Saturday at sundown? 

It does actually.  You don't like the answer. I can see that.

My "liking" the answer or not is of no consequence.

What Catholics do is on them.

Then why did you volunteer in your assumption of their proxy? 

What day do the Orthodox celebrate church?

Sunday.

Every major denomination in the world agrees.

Appeal to consensus? 

It has been the way since the beginning of the church.

No, it has been that way since Constantine I, who attempted to replace the Judaic observance of Sabbath with the veneration of Ra (Sun God.) Would you like to take a stab at which day Ra was venerated? 

It can't be put on the Roman Catholics.  

Yes, it could.

Sin? From Adam and Eve.  People in power often have opportunities. 

Why do you believe they use their opportunities to sin to such an extent? 

I don't agree. It is human sin.  And sin is universal.  

It's not a subject of whether you agree. The Catholic Church predates every institution you mentioned with the exception of "schools" and brothels. But since the subject we're discussing Catholicism, stating "sin is universal" provides no mitigation.

I am not saying otherwise.  Yet, by looking at the Catholic Church without recognizing the prevalence in the society universally

But it's not particularly relevant to "recognize" the prevalence in society since the subject matter is Catholicism. If you believe there's a societal factor that informs the institutionalize pederasty in the Catholic denomination, then mention it. But stating "everyone sins" provides little to nothing.

1.     Why do (Catholics) celebrate the date of Jesus's birth on Christmas, December 25th

I like the explanation that says God would often start and finish events on the same date.  For instance the passover in Exodus and the crossing into the land of Israel over the river Jordan 40 days to the day later.  A common occurrence in Jewish history. 

 

Applying that Jesus' birth is quite simple really. If we don't know specifically when he was born. We find out when he died. Easy. Passover in a particular year.  That just happens to be in that particular year March 25.  Jesus died on March 25.   If he was conceived on the same date - March 25 - move forward 9 months - December 25.  not that difficult really. And it makes sense. 

How can Jesus have been conceived on March 25, when he was conceived six months after John the Baptist's conception, which was in late June? (Info from Zacharias receiving word of John's conception during the Course of Abia.) 

Why is the observance of  the resurrection named "Easter"?

the obvious answer is easter is the name of a pagan deity.  And thence it is following after a festival held on the same day.  And probably there is truth to this. That a crossover of events - led many to call it Easter.  

I'm not really sure what the problem is.   It is vey likely in a world where people exist - that nations and groups of people celebrate events on the same day.

Well, Ishtar/Ēostre who were associated with images of bunnies. And No. We're not discussing two concurrent celebrations. Easter and the Resurrection have been conflated, and not by accident.

I have a birthday next week

Happy Birthday in case we do not interact next week.

- which I am sure others - probably millions of people will also be celebrating their birthday. Does that make mine any less true or significant?

Non sequtiur. 

Easter is a name.

No it's not. Catholics observe "Easter" as the day of resurrection. A holiday that venerates "Easter Bunnies" and "Easter Egg Hunts," which are associated with the pagan deity who's the namesake, and had nothing to do with Jesus's resurrection. And I've already stated the reason I believe this to be the case: 

I do believe that Catholics like an overwhelming majority of Christian denominations are being coaxed into accepting Luciferian rituals, because the Pope and the Catholic elite, I suspect, ARE LUCIFIERIANS--the pope himself being Lucifer's vicar. 

I wonder whether you refuse to use the names of the days of the week. And if you do - use them - does that make you a suspicious character - a luciferian for instance.

Why would you have to wonder? I've used four of them in my discussion with you. And this is also  a non-sequitur. 

But we can also appreciate that names such as Easter, or the days of the week - are actually about unity rather than trying to worship some kind of false god.  

Uniting what?