what are some of your radical but controversial opinions

Author: thett3

Posts

Total: 146
thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,064
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
By radical but not controversial I mean that very few people are advocating for the position and it’s completely off the political radar but isn’t culture war adjacent and wouldn’t offend many people 

I’ll start: Alberta and Saskatchewan are so different from the rest of Canada and such valuable pieces of real estate (especially when/if climate change really starts to kick in) that the USA should try to poach them from Canada
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
Your TOPIC says, "radical but controversial"


thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,064
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
-->
@oromagi
I meant to say “radical but not controversial”
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
If we focused law enforcement on illegal employers rather than illegal immigrants we'd  make a major impact on that problem in no time.  Much cheaper and easier to enforce.  Put a few restaurant and hotel and golf course owners in jail for perpetuating illegal immigration, those opportunities will quickly dry up and the primary motivation for most illegal immigration goes away.

thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,064
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
-->
@oromagi
I agree. Romney was right about “self deportation” much more practical and humane 
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
We should seriously consider buying Greenland from Denmark.  Maybe a joint purchase with Canada if they're interested.
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
Enfranchise US territories and Federal districts.

Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands should be made one new US state.

Guam, Samoa, Marianas, etc should all join the state of Hawaii.

Native American reservations should collectively have the Federal representation of one state:  that is, reservations should have 2 Senators and one or two Representatives, with electoral votes, etc.

We don't need the District of Columbia anymore, dissolve that district and let Washington become a city in Maryland.


Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
Radical idea I don't agree with but can defend: Inheritance should be abolished. 
Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
Getting rid of the Electoral College might be considered radical policy-wise. 
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@Danielle
 Inheritance should be abolished. 
Jefferson and Franklin supported this notion
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@Danielle
Getting rid of the Electoral College might be considered radical policy-wise. 

I don't think that should even be controversial- as much a unnecessary holdover from agrarian thinking as daylight savings or pickup truck subsidies
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,023
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
Tax on production should be abolished and replaced with consumption taxes.
TWS1405
TWS1405's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,048
3
4
7
TWS1405's avatar
TWS1405
3
4
7
Eugenics. Not in the sense of Margaret Sanger, but rather stopping homeless, drug addicts, and criminals from procreating.

And since we simply have too many human beings on this planet with finite resources, we need to stop allowing willy nily carte blanche procreation. People should be licensed to have kids. Prove they are a nuclear family, financially stable, pass psychological testing, and stable longevity in the aforementioned before being allowed to procreate. This would reduce the degenerates of society. 
badger
badger's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,243
3
3
3
badger's avatar
badger
3
3
3
I'm going to ignore the controversial/noncontroversial part, but the success of capitalism as found in the west depends entirely upon the poverty of other nations. We're sucking minerals out of Africa. We're trading oil for Lamborghinis with Sheikhs. We're all wearing clothes and using electronics manufactured for pittance in  Chinese sweatshops. 

What happens when the poor aren't so poor? Chinese manufacturing wages are set to be on a par with Eastern European wages by 2030. So how much of our perceived success of capitalism just goes away?

I think the world is ending. I think inflation is going to go sky high. I think capitalism is going to implode. The success of capitalism has been bargaining power with poor as shit nations all along. 
 
Thoughts?
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,023
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
Thoughts?
I have complete faith in American central planners to create a poor class to exploit when they can't find any overseas.
badger
badger's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,243
3
3
3
badger's avatar
badger
3
3
3
-->
@Greyparrot
We're gonna move sweatshops to Africa and African Americans are going to be mad. 
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 26,023
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@badger
Americans consider a lemonade stand a sweat shop.
Lemming
Lemming's avatar
Debates: 7
Posts: 3,360
4
4
10
Lemming's avatar
Lemming
4
4
10
Rich people should create and spread superior City/County States.

A Martial Fighting Tournament such as in YuYu Hakusho, seems a decent method of picking a leader to me.
Leader risks self, is Democratic as allied forces do not fight each other.

I'm not actually bothered by Communism in 'new states.
Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
-->
@oromagi
We don't need the District of Columbia anymore, dissolve that district and let Washington become a city in Maryland.
Democrats want D.C. to become a state along with Puerto Rico. 


Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
-->
@Greyparrot
I have complete faith in American central planners to create a poor class to exploit when they can't find any overseas.
They already have. And he's not American :P 
Danielle
Danielle's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 2,049
3
3
4
Danielle's avatar
Danielle
3
3
4
-->
@badger
capitalism as found in the west depends entirely upon the poverty of other nations. 

How will they escape poverty without the west trading with them? 


Chinese manufacturing wages are set to be on a par with Eastern European wages by 2030.
Not if they keep it up with their insane lockdowns :) 


What happens when the poor aren't so poor?
The world is a better place? 

China is a bit of an anomaly. Capitalists will point to the fact that 800 million Chinese people have been lifted out of poverty in the last ~40 years indicating that sweatshops might not be all bad, eh? Kind of a win-win for all maybe? But China is not actually a capitalist country. They employ some free trade but between lockdowns, regulations, central planning, government subsidies and yes some exploitation it's not a very "free" society economically or otherwise. 


Swagnarok
Swagnarok's avatar
Debates: 7
Posts: 1,251
3
2
6
Swagnarok's avatar
Swagnarok
3
2
6
Radical but not controversial?

That's a hard one. I'm on the right. The media selectively labels things "controversial" based on whether leftists might dislike them, while not considering the reverse to also apply.

But alright. I'll give it a try.
Contingent upon them undergoing HRT for some minimum length without skipping treatments, and upon completing the full range of cosmetic surgeries relevant to their genitalia, all transgender people should be allowed to change their sex on legal documents and use the bathroom facilities of their newly assigned sex. This is a historically radical proposition. Nigh unthinkable before 40 or 50 years ago. But I don't think this to be unreasonable and probably most people don't either.
badger
badger's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,243
3
3
3
badger's avatar
badger
3
3
3
-->
@Danielle
The world is a better place? 
Sure, until our entire economy and incentives structure collapses. 

But China is not actually a capitalist country.
It all plays into our capitalism. That's what I'm asking. Is capitalism such a successful economic system if not for our availing of all this cheap labour or materials afforded by our greater bargaining power? 800 million Chinese people being lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years seems to me it will seriously impact our quality of life. 

My question is: What's next? 


oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,696
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
-->
@Danielle
Democrats want D.C. to become a state along with Puerto Rico. 
I know but that's far too small of any interest to justify two Senators and the whole North/South divide that justified a special district is not really applicable any more.

Another kooky idea I've had is to rewrite the Constitution to give each state one Senator and then the top 50 most populous cities elect a Senator.  That would definitely create new imbalances in power but would also be far more democratic then the current scheme.  DC would get a Senator in that scheme.

badger
badger's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,243
3
3
3
badger's avatar
badger
3
3
3
American minimum wage is $7.25. Chinese sweatshop workers are in some cases earning $0.03. That means a minimum wage worker in America's one hour of work buys him 240 hours of sweatshop labour. I mean, there's corporative middlemen there taking a huge finder's fee, but that's still just insane. What happens when it goes away? 
ebuc
ebuc's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 4,936
3
2
4
ebuc's avatar
ebuc
3
2
4
-->
@thett3
Provide clean air, water food and shelter for all humans on Earth.

Current operational systems cannot do this for 8 billion people.

Voluntary reduction in human population growth to match ecologically safe environment for the operating systems we have in place, while at same time arriving at new scenarios of more efficient and effective operating systems that sustain a reasonable population growth for those ecologically safe systems of  operation that take in energy and feed out energy to the peoples of Earth.

Moves toward utopia on Earth is better than a moves toward oblivion on Earth. Radical but not controversial. Yes? No?


Lemming
Lemming's avatar
Debates: 7
Posts: 3,360
4
4
10
Lemming's avatar
Lemming
4
4
10
-->
@TWS1405
@#13 Eugenics and parental/reproduction license,

'Does seem a logical outcome of societies where 'society has larger influence than individual autonomy,
And societies 'do look inclined to tread in that direction, though that's a guestimate on my part.

Personally I'm of the opinion (During some moments) that no one should have kids, and we ought sterilize the Earth of all life, even down to bacteria,
Due to my view that one can't ask permission of the unrealized, whether they want to 'be,
And my view at times that it's better to have never been, Though once one 'is, it is better to 'Be, as long as one can, live as best one can.


zedvictor4
zedvictor4's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 12,084
3
3
6
zedvictor4's avatar
zedvictor4
3
3
6
-->
@TWS1405
Reducing the gene pool is not a good thing.

Perfect clones eventually breed monsters.
Ehyeh
Ehyeh's avatar
Debates: 31
Posts: 318
3
4
9
Ehyeh's avatar
Ehyeh
3
4
9
-->
@zedvictor4
Not if we get rid of genetic conditions. In theory it would be fine to inbreed if not for the fact you share the same copies where you may now not have a defence from genetic conditions.  If we got rid of the said genetic conditions, even clones made from other clones would be perfectly healthy and functional. Why is it that people with dark eyes (having the same eye colour genes) do not constantly produce blind children, or blue-eyed people having children with others with blue eyes?
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
Liberal Democrats should be the majority left wing party of England and Wales, Labour veers too much towards Socialism amongst its core (yes, core, not fringe) base. SNP dominating Scotland is fine and inevitable for the foreseeable future, they should just coalition upon a viable majority.

I also believe that despite this, many should vote Labour instead, to defeat the Conservatives in the unfair seat system.