Why did mafia kill Pie?
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Maybe they respect him as a good player lol
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@PREZ-HILTON
(an innocent person has no problem explaining rationale that is not manufactured) he refused to answer the accusations.
This is why wf is shady af, no defense of innocence, only ignoring claims, yet wf is a master of defending himself without defending himself, fundamentally unreadable
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@Greyparrot
Let's go after WF for forcing your claim and fucking is over in lylo
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@That2User
So honestly I am not even your biggest scum read. It is white flame. Let's do this.
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Still reading the DP.
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@whiteflame
Voting you to full claim
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@PREZ-HILTON
no.
I am voting for death
I will find out his role on dp3 in the list of deaths. I just don't care about his ability to bullshit.
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@That2User
It's the dying wish of Pie, Barney said Pie was scum and is now proven Vanilla town, Barney failed to pursue/follow up on GP significantly
Voting people because they had wrong reads is not a way to catch scum
That said, Wylted is incredibly difficult to read so getting his claim is probably good
Why do you scumread WF?
Also to follow-up about MC, I looked up and his activity seems to be based in more reply-based random town behavior, but he seems to be trying a lot harder this game relative to the history I looked up for him (recent players lmk if you agree), so I'm adding him to my sus list with Earth and GP
I am reading here and there and can tell you Pie's OMGUS is dumb. Maybe to answer Earth's question, it's possible we are dealing with and inexperienced scum team and they believe killing somebody who OMGUSsed somebody is a good way to frame people.
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@Earth
Why did mafia kill Pie?
Weird question. Do you expect someone from the scum team to explicitly answer this for you? They killed Pie because either (1) they are trying to frame Barney based on their OMGUS exchange; (2a) they assumed Pie had a power role and/or would be a good player to take out based on being among the most aggressive and active players DP1; (2b) Barney is scum and they assumed Pie might target Barney.
I don't think Wylted is going to be mafia. I was thinking last DP that if Barney was mafia, he would have voted oro. His voting down Greyparrot till the end felt like townie stubbornness. I mean, I was also considering that he and oro might have been mafia together, but since oro flips town, I think Barney is probably town. Mafia would have been trying to stay alive there, voting the next person with a high number of votes on them, not stubbornly voting like he was.
I agree with Wylted that immediately going after Barney is lazy, but so is immediately voting whiteflame for death.
I don't agree that WF is sus for questioning Parrot's decision to withhold his role when (from my experience) GP never witholds, regardless of how detrimental it is for him to reveal it. That uncharacteristic behavior coupled with the weird character claim affiliation made whiteflame's pressure on him seem warranted, and WF didn't push it too much. It was Barney going after GP and Pie.
That isn't to say whiteflame shouldn't be pressured btw - he's certainly able to come up with long winded BS posts as scum that make him hard to read. But without results pointing us in another direction I'd rather pressure someone else based on a behavioral read. Right now I'm learning toward voting for Earth but will wait for everyone to check in.
I don't think any of the theme guesses from DP1 were accurate btw.
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@Danielle
Maybe it's just me but I have been in multiple games where GP has refused to claim early. Half the time he is scum the other half of the time he is sometylike cop or doctor. It is so anti town to claim hated towny, I am including it in his range also
Barney was online and ready to die for his reads on the game. There wasn't an ounce of self-preservation in his play. That is entirely contrary to mafia's objective. I really can't see how he's supposed to be scum now.
I still think it's gotta be Speedrace although I agree entirely with this:
Voting people because they had wrong reads is not a way to catch scum
I was thinking last DP that if Barney was mafia, he would have voted oro. His voting down Greyparrot till the end felt like townie stubbornness.
I pretty much agree with this. It wouldn't make sense for scum to target GP so aggressively if they know GP is the hated townie, because they could hammer him easier later on (plus people would be sus of GP all game). I'm willing to operate under the assumption that Wylted is town for now.
Great minds think alike except you are probably mafia lol. Greyparrot is also maybe mafia.
I have information you guys don't, but it really looks like GP is town. I wouldn't freely say this normally but there is no way that I would be an NK target tonight. I am a pretty easy mislynch judging by the early activity this DP
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@PREZ-HILTON
Do you have a role?
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@Wylted
Don't answer if you have a role. Obviously.
Official Vote Count
Whiteflame (2/6) - Wylted, That2
Wylted (1/6) - Greyparrot
I wasn't asking what it was, but these games are usually overloaded with roles. Hated townie, 3 vanillas is way too much.
There is a lot of vanillas, and I am not talking about outside information. I have been watching the game up until about midway through DP1 among other things though
You guys lunatic had a lot of input into the format of this game and you can't completely view it as a Mharman game.