NFL Mafia [DP1]

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No one else vtl oromagi just yet. If two people suddenly jump on and vtl him, and he flips town, then we may just assume that those two people are scum.
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@SirAnonymous
but the certainty that Pie and GP are scum is quite unusual.
They acted very coordinated in trying to bus me when I put the slightest pressure on GP.

The rational the Pie claims he caught me lurking when I legit was not on the site, is rather suspect; my impression is scum team and GP has a power role for which they I’ve lucked out in catching GP having a power role for which they are willing to sacrifice Pie with bad plays.

As for the reason that I’m a moderator: ask any moderator if they are on the site each and every day.



On that note, done with work for today, but taking a girl to see Jurassic World.
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It isn't that you scumread them that is suspicious. It is that you are certain.
On that note, done with work for today, but taking a girl to see Jurassic World.
Have fun!
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Well this game ground to a halt. How long do we got to lynch someone? 
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Official Vote Count
Oromagi (5/7) - Earth, Danielle, That2, MisterChris, SirAnon
Barney (4/7) - Greyparrot, Pie, Whiteflame, Badger
Greyparrot (2/7) - Speedrace, Barney
Speedrace (1/7) - Oromagi


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still ends at 1pm est tomorrow, so  you have:


~16.5 hours
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As much as I like oro, I am very willing to hammer on him here. Any takers?
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@badger
Let's wait for his claim, unless he delays for too long.
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I'm pretty much gone for remainder of DP. Sleep now and work another 8 hours. I'll probably sneak on at some point tomorrow, but NL'ing is painful stuff at mafia. This game is slow. 


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VTL oro

Someone can investigate me if he flips town. I still think we had better lynches here. 
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Unvote
I'll revote after he claims.
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It's townie that you were watching, but you're a chicken lol.

Night folks. 
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@badger
If you've got to go, that's fine. I just don't want him sitting just one vote away right now.
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plain =  VANILLA
we have a problem = Houston

a removable ten plain sacks, phew! - plain = 
a removable ten sacks phew-(we have a problem)=
 tecksans=
Texans
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Thanks for claiming.
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Official Vote Count
Oromagi (5/7) - Earth, Danielle, That2, MisterChris, Badger
Barney (3/7) - Greyparrot, Pie, Whiteflame
Greyparrot (2/7) - Speedrace, Barney
Speedrace (1/7) - Oromagi


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Oromagi just scum-slipped hardcore. When Oro joins a game, soft claiming is typically the very first thing he does. Oro says that he has soft claimed this game as well.

From post #442:
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4 votes on you, full claim
Folks familiar with my style of play know that I've already made my claim, albeit a little concealed by anagrams and crossword puzzle clues.

Oromagi lied here. He has also lied in stating that this is his soft claim:

plain =  VANILLA
we have a problem = Houston

a removable ten plain sacks, phew! - plain = 
a removable ten sacks phew-(we have a problem)=
 tecksans=
Texans

I have gone through all his posts since day 1. He did not soft claim at all this day phase. He hard claimed at post #257, but that was it. 
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7621/post-links/328388

This doesn't make sense if he is town. But if he's scum, it makes perfect sense. He didn't know which fake claim he would be taking. He didn't have a soft claim off the bat. So he didn't soft claim at all. Now he's pretending he did and hoping no one notices. Either that, or he created one in the scum discord and forgot to paste it. 

We ought to hammer Oro. 

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@MisterChris
You missed post #129. That's where he claimed it.
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I am good with an oromagi lynch, though. If he flips town, at least we only lose a vanilla.

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You're right. It was sandwiched in there without me noticing...

I retract 99%  of my last post then. I will maintain though, that his delay to post at first adds up if he was scum and waiting for an agreement as to which fake claim he was going to adopt. 
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@Mharman
I suppose there's not much point in delaying now that he's claimed. VTL oromagi
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Barney is a pretty busy dude. From my time modding with him I've gotten to know how sparse his DART activity can be. This means very little.
We can say he hasn't been contributing much, but I don't think that correlates to him being scum in this case.
Then he should be replaced. As of now though he hasn’t done much. And the minute I call him out on it, he gets defensive af.

What I find particularly interesting is that you seem to be ditching your own strategy here to go after him. Weren't you the one insisting on going after the scum present in NFC West and AFC South? Barney is in neither.
As I mentioned in the preface, things are gonna change. I’m running a behavioral read on Barney. The NFC West/AFC South was more based on theme.

That includes Oro (AFC South), and most seem to agree that he's been suspect in this game.
Should we not start with the best lead we have rather than lynching irrationally?
I believe I mentioned that I was fine with Oro claiming, but I want to lynch my scumread.
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It was a hypothetical, not an assumption. I was not saying that you were his teammate. I was wondering that, if you were, would you defend him in such a manner?
You’d have to ask someone else tbh. I don’t micromanage my gameplay most of the time lol. If I were to guess I’d probably say I’d avoid my partner
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@ILikePie5
He got defensive because you accused him of something he didn't do.  That's a much weaker rationale for his lynch than with Oro. 
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I wrote it down mostly so I would remember it. I wasn't really expecting anyone else to answer it.
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He got defensive because you accused him of something he didn't do.  That's a much weaker rationale for his lynch than with Oro. 
I called him out more so for not following up on Greyparrot. And he literally admitted he didn’t do that. If you were scum hunting, you’d follow up on your questions, not avoid them.
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@Mharman
VTL Oro
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I want Barney’s role claims tomorrow.
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@ILikePie5
If he's trying to catch up on 10+ pages of material, I'm not sure how thoroughly involved you can expect him to be. 

To be clear, I'm not saying his absence doesn't hurt town, but I am saying your rationale isn't strong enough to override our other options here. 

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Well, here's hoping oro was scum.