Atheists are cowards.

[1] Failure to do something out of fear is not necessarily cowardice. I am afraid to jump under passing trains and therefore I don't. How about you? Are you afraid to jump under passing trains ?

[4] Belief in the nonexistence of something hardly qualifies as a doctrine.

It's been my experience that Atheists love to show up to religious threads.  They get to have their say. They get to destroy their opponents.  They get to prove how cool they are in the world of philosophy.

But this is why I say they are cowards.  Because they are afraid to reveal what they believe.  For instance, what do Atheists believe? 

Nothing. One common doctrine. God doesn't exist. An argument based on a negative. That is it.  Nothing else. We are not allowed to know what else they believe.

Hence why Atheists are COWARDS.   They criticize - but without fear of being criticized. That is not criticism. That is safe ground.  Bogus. really. 

 I’m a capital A Atheist, morality is subjective, market capitalist recognizing the need for social involvement in corporate business. Highly socially liberal; I run and cycle a lot. Have two small kids whom I am filling with 90s references and 2000 pop culture references because I can, and while they will disagree in 12 year - I won’t categorize as abuse . I believe strange new worlds is a pretty decent Star Trek series, Picard was okay, discovery is a guilty pleasure - the new star wars films were a bit crappy; the last Jedi was actually pretty decent ; the new miniseries - even boba felt were pretty cool; westworld is pretty good once you figure out wtfs going on, the world is on a bit of downward spiral of authoritarianism, but has ability to get better, Total Anihiliation is the best game of all time, pineapple does not belong on Pizza. Capybaras are the best animals, Toronto is the least canadian city, and; I cannot stress how firmly or unwaveringly I believe this: Han. shot. first.

All atheists think that all theists are liars. All atheists think that theists are sub-human.

The Jews who created the concept of the Messiah demanded that Jesus be crucified.

The Romans who crucified Jesus went on to form the Roman Catholic Church.

The people who seek forgiveness are Christians who believe that a dead Jew can forgive sins.

How can atheists top this delusion?

The Jews who created the concept of the Messiah demanded that Jesus be crucified.

The Romans who crucified Jesus went on to form the Roman Catholic Church.

The people who seek forgiveness are Christians who believe that a dead Jew can forgive sins.

How can atheists top this delusion?

Hello Shila, or is it another?  My favourite food is Indian.  But that is probably my secrete martyr or like name.  Or perhaps that might be vici vica? 

Nevertheless, your first sentence is incorrect. The Jews never created the concept of Messiah.  It goes back far further than Jacob.  Did the Jews demand that Jesus be crucified?  Some did and some didn't.  The first thousands of Christians were Jewish.  Go and have a look at Acts and the time of Pentecost.  Clearly thousands of Jews became Christians.  Mostly, as I understand the Gospels, it was the religious leaders - who were threatened and wanted Jesus out of the way. 

Your second sentence is also incorrect.    The Romans who killed Jesus were soldiers acting on the instructions of Pilate who was trying to stop a revolt by the Jewish people.   The Roman Catholic Church really did not become a thing for hundreds of years afterwards. In fact the Christian church was initially a Jewish sect that then ingrafted Gentiles and was spread around the then Israel, Africa and Turkey.  It also drifted across to Greece and Rome and Spain and even into Britain. Plus there were many Christians heading East towards Arabia and China.  

Yes, eventually the Roman church split from the East and became its own church.  But these people did not have any connection to those who crucified Christ, save and except that they were human and some of them came - perhaps from Rome.  Please remember that many Roman Soldiers were in fact slaves who had be conscripted into the Roman army and came from captured lands, like Gaul and Spain and many other places.  Your sentence is so bad it is laughable. 

Your third sentence is also incorrect.  Christians do believe in forgiveness but not from a dead Jew.  Jesus not only died but rose from the dead.  The fact that a small Jewish cult started in the backwaters of the world to become the largest religion in the world didn't happen in a vacuum. Christians worship God - Jesus who is alive. 

Atheists by and large are reasonable people.  As are Christians, Muslims, Jews, and other religious persons.  Like any group - most are reasonable and a few are extremists and zealots.  Even some atheists are complete nutters and irrational.  And delusional.  

Nevertheless, this topic was never about Atheists being delusional - it was about - some and not all - who would expect others to answer questions and yet never do the same themselves - since Atheists have no doctrine save - there is no god.  The responses of many atheists on this topic have demonstrated that not all atheists are cowards.  I affirm that. Some are - but not all.  When someone is prepared to address the issues and not pretend to be on some kind of moral superior ground - and then refuse to answer to answer because we don't believe anything - then that person is not a coward.  

As for delusions - to believe that "in the beginning there was nothing and then that for no particular reason, something happened, without cause obviously, and suddenly or over a long period of time that nothing to which something happened, became something, which then evolved into everything that we see and hear and taste and understand today"   is a bit silly. Like a fairy tale.  To believe such - I think is perhaps not delusional so far as desperate.  Yet, if one chooses not to believe in a god, then this is really the only alternative.  I certainly haven't heard of any alternatives.   

It's much more plausible that God has existed in eternity - and caused all things in whatever way that might be - rather than - nothing and then something. For me it is more rational to believe that cause and effect are real rather than just totally random events happen without a cause. 

1. The Jews who created the concept of the Messiah demanded that Jesus be crucified.

Luke 23:20 Wanting to release Jesus, Pilate appealed to them again. 21 But they kept shouting, “Crucify him! Crucify him!”

22 For the third time he spoke to them: “Why? What crime has this man committed? I have found in him no grounds for the death penalty. Therefore I will have him punished and then release him.”

23 But with loud shouts they insistently demanded that he be crucified, and their shouts prevailed. 24 So Pilate decided to grant their demand. 25 He released the man who had been thrown into prison for insurrection and murder, the one they asked for, and surrendered Jesus to their will.

2. The Romans who crucified Jesus went on to form the Roman Catholic Church.

The Roman Catholic Church was started duringJesus’s time and with the help of his apostles 

According to Catholic tradition, the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ. The New Testament records Jesus' activities and teaching, his appointment of the twelve Apostles, and his instructions to them to continue his work.

3. The people who seek forgiveness are Christians who believe that a dead Jew can forgive sins.

Forgiveness of sin in every dispensation has always been based on Jesus’ death on the cross (see Hebrews 9:15). In the Old Testament, sins were forgiven on the basis of Jesus’ death on the cross, of which the animal sacrifices were but a foreshadowing. During the life of Christ, sins were forgiven on the basis of His yet-future death on the cross—the benefits of that sacrifice were granted to those who had faith in Jesus. Now, by faith, we look back on the death and resurrection of Christ and receive God’s forgiveness. The good news is as Paul preached, “My friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you” (Acts 13:38). When we trust Christ, the word to us is the same as that spoken to the forgiven woman in Simon’s house: “Your faith has saved you; go in peace” (Luke 7:50).

Nope.  Jesus may have started the church. But the Roman Catholic Church did not start for hundreds of years later.