Truckers fight Facism.

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So the lies continue, and the truckers will honk as long as they must to drown out the lies
I’m sorry you’re made uncomfortable by intellectual discussion, but disingenuous trolling and naming calling isn’t a good argument - this statement is not true. Strike 2



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The media has spent the last week vilifying the truckers participating in the freedom protests, slandering them and calling them names.

The reality is that the freedom protests have been entirely peaceful. People have been praying together, singing, setting up soup kitchens and feeding the homeless. Even setting up bouncy castles for kids.

However, there has been a serious attack that has taken place, and the victims are the freedom protesters.
It took place in Winnipeg when a man seemingly deliberately rammed his car into a freedom protester. Four people were injured in the attack.

Three of the injured had minor injuries and were treated on the scene, and one person was treated in hospital and released. This attack could have turned out much worse than it did and thankfully no one was killed in this attack.

In other words, a far-left extremist used his car to seemingly deliberately ram into peaceful freedom protesters, injuring several people, and it is almost like the media doesn’t want to talk about it.

The question needs to be asked why that is, why the lack of news coverage? The truckers have been vilified for days and now a far-left extremist rammed his car into them. It really is simple. This doesn’t fit the narrative that they have been pushing.

So the lies continue, and the truckers will honk as long as they must to drown out the lies.

And this is changing the subject again. You can’t defend what you’re saying so you try and constantly deflect away from criticism of your point.

You made a claim about a specific lie from Biden - which is clearly not a lie. Given that it is most assuredly not a lie, and this is strike 3. We can indeed add this to the list of points you have capitulated let’s recap:

So far you have conceded that:
  1. Vaccines are safe.
  2. Vaccines are effective.
  3. The government is not making people health decisions for them.
  4. The “biggest lie” told about vaccines is not a lie at all:

Now it seems - you have dropped all objections to what is being protested about - and are now solely fixated on how the truckers are being presented, right?



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This is the truth.
But it’s not really;  it’s substantially distorted misrepresentation presented as if wholly accurate, but is mostly a bad faith argument that, presumably - given this thread - youre not going to defend.

Let’s look at it one part a time:

The media has spent the last week vilifying the truckers participating in the freedom protests, slandering them and calling them names.

The reality is that the freedom protests have been entirely peaceful. People have been praying together, singing, setting up soup kitchens and feeding the homeless. Even setting up bouncy castles for kids
The reality is this protest is that it’s a limited number of fringe protesters; there have innumerable reports of harassment and intimidation - especially against mask wearers, we’ve had fireworks let off, trucks blocking emergency services, a number of incidents of racism, and damage to both the war memorial and  the terry fox monument. There has been questionable and violent rhetoric. 

Oromagi did a decent shortlist of some of the questionable incidents in the post you also ignored.

That’s been broadly covered accurately by the majority of media I’ve seen - and is substantially far away “entirely peaceful” I think what you mean to say is that there are not a lot of punches being thrown, or physical confrontations with police or counter protesters - which is a particularly low bar considering - and more a testament that the heavy police presence have been actively turning away both counter protesters - and not yet removing those parked in the street.

While I’m sure you can find the odd cherry picked opinion piece or report, and fairly broad negative coverage in most liberal media - and literally all Ottawa based outlets; the idea that the media has been unfairly “vilifying” “slandering”, or “calling them names”, is a rather obtuse and inaccurate exaggeration.

An exaggeration, I may add; that I’m sure you won’t defend, other than throwing contextless cherry picked individual examples my way.


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This is the truth
But it isn’t. It’s a gross misrepresentation of the reality, as covered by both myself and Oromagi. Please see previous post.

You’re complete inability to defend a single claim you’ve made, makes it pretty obvious that you don’t believe a single word you’re actually saying. But that’s fine; I’ll give you two more opportunities. Strike #1





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If that's the choice that some people make, then I fully support them and admire their stoicism
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This is a great point.
If it were a great point - you’d defend it from criticism, and not delete your posts. But you aren’t, so it must not be. It would appear self evident to everyone that you don’t believe what you’re seeing. This is and continues to be disingenuous trolling.

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This is a great point.
Such a good point that you are completely unable to defend it. So excellent a point - you keep deleting everything you’ve said. Strike #3 

So good, in fact that you have conceded that it’s untrue. Let’s recap: 

So far you have conceded that:
  1. Vaccines are safe.
  2. Vaccines are effective.
  3. The government is not making people health decisions for them.
  4. The “biggest lie” told about vaccines is not a lie at all:
  5. That the media isn’t really vilifying, slandering or calling names: or otherwise unfairly characterizing the protests.


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Stop using leftist terms
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So good that you’ve deleted every reference, and refuse to defend it. Not sure who you’re trying to convince!


Anyhoo, lets park that to the list of points you concede, and rebuttals that scare you. Let’s move on to a point I missed: If I’m going to rebut everything you’ve point by point, while you demonstrate the bankruptcy of your position by petulantly refuse to debate :

“If it was about health, they would be talking about natural immunity rates, exercise, good eating, and not mandates. Talk about healthy diets and exercise. Talk about building your immune system. Talk about taking vitamins.”

Like all the rest of the points you have capitulates on without contest - this one is another grotesque misrepresentation of reality that is wholly without merit. Firstly, public health have touched healthy eating and diet consistently and repeatedly. “Building your immune system” and “taking your vitimins” is a solution for Covid that is being pushed from people selling supplements and vitamins to the gullible. Short of people deciding not to be obese, completely reversing all co-morbidities; there are no amount of dr oz pills or vitamins that will lower your risk of Covid. Given that health advice to this effect has been completely ignored, and often takes years to realize the benefits if you’re in one of the at risk categories: it makes literally no sense to simply push this aspect in the name of “health” when it will invariably maximize the number of people who will die. 

Public health in the context of a pandemic is about policies that minimize the damage done to society as a whole by a rapidly spreading deadly pathogen. Given this, the most available and effective tool to minimizing the harm from this pathogen to society is the safe and effective vaccine. 

So the idea that public health shouldn’t focus on this is a laughably dishonest straw man. 

I await you’re complete capitulation on this point!
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What once was called Conservativism in the West has gone silent, afraid to ally with the Liberals and repelled by self-serving troglodytes running their parties.
Who caused that? 

Conservatism failed to stop the massive illegal immigration that has taken jobs from working class citizens.  

Conservatism has failed to keep well paying jobs in America as free-trade has made American working class to compete with people making $2 an hour over seas.  

Conservatism has failed the working class in America from the dangers of neoliberalism. 

This change is the fault of those who pushed too hard. It's the fault of leftists who promote shit like normalization of pedophilia. 

We are getting to Weimer levels liberal filth. I wonder what happens when society reaches Weimer levels of filth and decadence? 

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Ok.
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 I wonder what happens when society reaches Weimer levels of filth and decadence? 
Guillotine time.

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I sincerely jhope so. 
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Are the truckers getting results? I keep seeing stuff about various provinces lifting COVID restrictions and vaccine mandates but I don't know if that was going to happen anyway
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Are the truckers getting results? I keep seeing stuff about various provinces lifting COVID restrictions and vaccine mandates but I don't know if that was going to happen anyway
The federal guidance is not likely to change, and at the provincial level most of the reopening was going to happen anyway. Reopening in Ontario specifically has been planned for a while: the west has been pretty gung-ho about opening up at varying points throughout the whole pandemic.
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These are the working class. They don't have a say really. The unwashed are not part of the big club.
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Does a  Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) in Fusion and Plasma Physics from MIT grow in the dirt?
Why tf would you get a Doctorate in Philosophy lmfao
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At first glance, it’s easy to confuse the terms PhD and doctorate. After all, both represent the pinnacle of the academic experience – often the result of a lifelong pursuit – and those who hold the distinction are often referred to as “doctor.” Yet the differences, subtle as they may be, are noteworthy and require much thought when putting together a plan for your future. 
Is a PhD the Same as a Doctorate?
The PhD, also known as the Doctor of Philosophy, is a research degree, which is one of the most common types of doctoral degrees, and is awarded to graduates in many different fields. For those asking, “Is a PhD higher than a doctorate?” the answer is simple: no. A PhD lies within the doctorate category, so one is not better than the other. 
According to the American Psychological Association, the PhD is “intended for students interested in generating new knowledge through scientific research (i.e., setting up experiments, collecting data, applying statistical and analytical techniques) and/or gaining teaching experience.” 
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Physics - MIT Graduate Admissions - Massachusetts Institute ...
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Master of Science in Physics (SM)*. Doctor of Philosophy (PhD). Doctor of Science (ScD) ... Plasma Physics, Nuclear Fusion Research, Plasma Astrophysics.


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->@oromagi
What once was called Conservativism in the West has gone silent, afraid to ally with the Liberals and repelled by self-serving troglodytes running their parties.
Who caused that? 

Conservatism failed to stop the massive illegal immigration that has taken jobs from working class citizens.  

Conservatism has failed to keep well paying jobs in America as free-trade has made American working class to compete with people making $2 an hour over seas.  

Conservatism has failed the working class in America from the dangers of neoliberalism. 
Look around you, chud.  The future belongs to the smart and adaptable.  Americans don't need politicians who work to keep humans out in the fields and down in the mines.  We need to educate and re-educate.  We need Americans to ask "how can I help?" rather than Americans who say, "this little job is mine and  I don't care how ineffective or nonproductive my contribution to the general welfare becomes over time I demand stability, even at the cost of future generations of Americans.  This change is the fault of those who pushed too hard."

You may wish Conservatives had fought to preserve your rut but that rut would not be doing you or your country any favors.  Adapt or die, says capitalism.  Adapt or die, says history.  Adapt or die, says evolution.

It's the fault of leftists who promote shit like normalization of pedophilia. 
I'll remind you that almost all child sex abuse legislation in Western democracy was the result of legislation pursued by Liberal Feminists in the late 19th and 20th century.  The overarching modern Federal law governing child sex abuse was written by Walter Mondale.  Leftists have been working hard for more than a century  to protect children from sex abuse.  The right wing's legislative record on this issue is paltry at best.  Child sex abuse is a Feminist issue and the right wing traditionally opposes most Feminist legislation. 

We are getting to Weimer levels liberal filth. I wonder what happens when society reaches Weimer levels of filth and decadence? 
Right wingers attack national capitols.  Aren't you once again confirming here that Right wingers are consciously  following Hitler's playbook?

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If there is one thing the Canadian truckers have proved without a doubt, it's that the left doesn't care about uneducated workers.

The old workhorse in Orwell's animal farm symbolizes the Canadian truckers perfectly while the pigs in parliament scheme against them.

All the leftists want to do is take the truckers out to the back of the barn for the final solution, not even caring where people get their stuff from in the first place.
Immediate power is the only virtue to a leftist.

Today's tyrants have forced a shift in definitions. The left is for the elites and the right is against it all.

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I hope you invent the first nuclear fusion reactor then lol 
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It's already been invented, it's just not practical.
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If there is one thing the Canadian truckers have proved without a doubt, it's that the left doesn't care about uneducated workers.
I think oromagis post confirms this at well. He basically has said ,"fuck you working class, only limousine liberals matter, adapt or die" 

If you don't like us deporting your jobs away and mass immigration, that harms you but helps billionaire capitalists than fuck you. 

I think it is the limousine liberals who will have to adapt, by forcing the hand of the workers
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He also has no concept of history.

"They are following the example of hitler"

Or you could just see trends in history and avoid the next Hitler coming to power, by actually giving a shit about the concerns and things that harm the working class. 
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FLRW is a legend in all fairness. 
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I regard him as the Bobby Fischer of the site.
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Jew-hating FLRW. 
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Awe, come on guys, I'm not that great even though Albert Einstein is my third cousin.
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No, more like an idiot-savant.

Have you read about Bobby Fischer's political rants?