What have you changed your mind about?

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@Theweakeredge
Mmm, communism's pretty based.
- Is that what you changed your mind about?

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@Reece101
- Are you like... a crazy person?
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@spacetime
I became an atheist over the past couple years.
The religion I was born into, Sikhism, demands a lot from its adherents -- never cutting your hair, wearing a turban any time you leave the house, abstaining from all the standard vices (premarital sex, masturbation, alcohol, drugs), spending inordinate amounts of time in meditation and prayer, incessantly policing your thoughts in an effort to eventually achieve an idealized state of total detachment from the material realm.
- Doesn't the alternative require even more effort & struggle? 


As I grew older and more independent, it all began to seem quite burdensome, and it drove me to start questioning why I even believe in any of this stuff to begin with.
- Is this due to environmental conditions or personal journey?


I came to the realization that my faith was entirely based upon certain personal experiences that I had perceived as being divinely inspired. Once I started doubting the veracity of those experiences, it all unravelled pretty quickly.
- You didn't look elsewhere for faith? 
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@Yassine
I disagree,
If a person is part of a company, then they have rights in regard to that company,
Such as a paycheck,
A right to work for that company,
A right to enter the company office,

This does not mean that human rights, fair treatment, or civility towards those 'not of the company, do not exist.
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@Lemming
I disagree,
If a person is part of a company, then they have rights in regard to that company,
Such as a paycheck,
A right to work for that company,
A right to enter the company office,
This does not mean that human rights, fair treatment, or civility towards those 'not of the company, do not exist.
- So, you intend by Human Rights, those rights for humans who happen to be nationals, thus National Rights. Hence, NOT Human Rights, as in for humans, not necessarily nationals.


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@Yassine
- Are you like... a crazy person?
What if I said I had a flying donkey? 
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@Reece101
- How come they let you go online in the asylum?

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@Polytheist-Witch
I understand your point and you're not wrong. I just don't feel mocked when someone points out the irrationality of the kind of faith I happen to espouse. I embrace that my position is irrational so when someone can create a parallel case for rhetorical purposes, in order to illustrate the perception of my belief system I sit back and enjoy. I also happen to feel that atheism is a fine approach to the world that is internally consistent and highly rational. It just isn't my system. https://rosends.blogspot.com/2012/02/godless-godlus.html
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@Yassine
Regardless of nationality,
I'd prefer people be respected, not tortured, not have agreements with broken with.
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@Lemming
Regardless of nationality,
I'd prefer people be respected, not tortured, not have agreements with broken with.
- That's not saying anything. Preference warrants no real or binding consideration. It's the same with or without. – It's ok to admit you believe national rights supersede human rights, for that is the essence of Nationalism. 

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@Yassine
I believe that national rights and human rights are both constructs,
It's not a matter of one superseding the other,

People will apply the law according to their preferences.
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@Lemming
I believe that national rights and human rights are both constructs,
It's not a matter of one superseding the other,
- That's squaring the circle.


People will apply the law according to their preferences.
- No. Not when these are strictly contradictory. Are you afraid to admit that you believe national rights supersede human rights? Either that, or you believe human rights supersede national rights.
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@Yassine
I 'don't agree that they are contradictory, or that one needs supersede the other.
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@Yassine
- How come they let you go online in the asylum?
Do you believe I should be in an asylum for believing in flying donkeys? 

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@Lemming
I 'don't agree that they are contradictory, or that one needs supersede the other.
- You may not agree that a square circle is contradictory either, doesn't mean it isn't. National rights, by definition, are exclusive to nationals sans non-nationals, i.e. all other humans. You can not believe in exclusive AND inclusive rights at the same time, that's strictly absurd.

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@Reece101
- What's 9 + 10 ?
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@Yassine
- What's 9 + 10 ?

Is it a legal age? 
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- It's your IQ squared.
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@Yassine
Not everyone’s a mathematician. 
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Islam like all religions are tyranny at their core. Control is always the goal. Islam is in my view the worst of all. It is demonstrated daily. I believe a higher intelligence created the universe but it is not anything like what man would describe it as. Man is so arrogant as to think the creator would be anything like him in any way. To me its almost laughable to think that. Man has devolved since his creation.  The creator created the universe and everything in it. The creator does not control outcome. Only the creations that evolve will last.

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@sadolite
Islam like all religions are tyranny at their core. Control is always the goal.
- Aren't you Christian...?


Islam is in my view the worst of all. It is demonstrated daily.
- Indeed, in your view.


I believe a higher intelligence created the universe but it is not anything like what man would describe it as. Man is so arrogant as to think the creator would be anything like him in any way. To me its almost laughable to think that. Man has devolved since his creation.  The creator created the universe and everything in it. The creator does not control outcome. Only the creations that evolve will last.
- There seems to be a lot of contradictions here... I doubt you're the type of guy who changes his mind, I am right?

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@sadolite
Sound hypothesis.

Very similar to my way of thinking.


Floaty about blokes and popular theistic ritual,

IS STUPID ASS SHIT.

Now who am I quoting there?
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@Yassine
I changed my mind about religion, I used to identify as Christian. Over the years I have watched it devolve into appeasing popular opinion rather then following its bible. Much like all the rest. Religion is a creation of man in my view, and it was created to control man by any popular and brutal means necessary.  The OP asks if I have changed my mind, Yes I have.
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@Yassine
I use to love my  mother's breastmilk. 
I've since done changed me mind. 








Did i just say that out loud ?
No but yassine.  Dont tell the other guys but.  I am starting to " warm " to Muslim ummm , ways maybe.
For the past like year. 
Now it don't mean i like you guys ,  i will never be a Muslim, 
Its . Well. 
You guys are cloes to even with the christians .
Thats a even pack of nonsense. 
 

And don't think i haven't noticed a lull , a calm patch if you will.  in some of the straight out ruthlessness acted out by " you guys " lately.   

You Muslims may be a good bunch one day. 
Thats MAY BE. 


Ive said to much now. 
Im feelijg a little apologists ish.    
Don't tell the other guys thst , I GET IT. 
I get it. 
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@rosends
You being okay with being walked on is all you, boo.
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@sadolite
Who are the Buddhists controlling, lol. The fact you hate yourself so much god can't be like you is all you, boo.
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@sadolite
I changed my mind about religion, I used to identify as Christian. Over the years I have watched it devolve into appeasing popular opinion rather then following its bible. Much like all the rest. Religion is a creation of man in my view, and it was created to control man by any popular and brutal means necessary.  The OP asks if I have changed my mind, Yes I have.
- What changed your mind?

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@Yassine
- Also, what other faith related views have you discarded or adopted in general during your time on this Forum? & why? 
My faith (Catholic) only grows as I age and see Biblical narratives reflected more and more in reality. I was raised pretty much as a cultural Christian with very little religious education, reading the Bible makes me feel basically that “all of the answers were here the entire time…” I don’t talk about religion much here because I think very few people are willing to talk about it in good faith (I consider you one of those few FYI even though I don’t really interact much, I enjoy your posts) 
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@Polytheist-Witch
I'm sorry if that's what you take from what I have written but I appreciate your candor and your postion on this. Have a good day.
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@Polytheist-Witch
People exactly like you are why I fled religion. You talk shit to people you don't even know. Just like religious people.