Ozark Mafia Day Phase 3

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@Mharman
I agree to go for Supa for the Gramps claim (among other reasons, pushing for Whiteflame a little too hard would be one), but if I'm looking toward a mastermind, it could be you or Pie. I'm going with Pie for now since he also pushing really hard on Whiteflame, and I think you've pointed out way too much solid logic for me to give you any other read than town atm.
I still think it’s WIFOM from Whiteflame. He knows that at MYLO/LYLO we’d consider everything. He has a great ability to look up roles. Combine with with Sui’s theme knowledge, you got a killer combo. 
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I still think it’s WIFOM from Whiteflame. 
I disagree. He doesn't know what we'll choose to do so why would he even risk calling for a vote block on Sui if he were mafia, knowing it can implicate him if town randomly decides to. Not all WIFOM plays are good ones, and I respect Waterflame's experience in this game to the level where I think he would not try such a risky WIFOM.

Either way, can you agree that Supa is scummy?
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Again, to reiterate and to fix a typo:

Why would Whiteflame make such a risky WIFOM that implicates him if town randomly decides it does, if he were really mafia?
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Get online and post results, if any.
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I disagree. He doesn't know what we'll choose to do so why would he even risk calling for a vote block on Sui if he were mafia, knowing it can implicate him if town randomly decides to. Not all WIFOM plays are good ones, and I respect Waterflame's experience in this game to the level where I think he would not try such a risky WIFOM.
I don’t think it’s risky at all. Everyone is taught to ignore results at MYLO and LYLO cause they mean nothing. It’s the perfect Avenue for him to do this.

Either way, can you agree that Supa is scummy?
He’s in my POE. If it’s not WF then it’s Sui, Mikal, Supa
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Then unless Grey isn’t TP or something I think you’re the last one, not Mikal. Because as of now, I strongly believe Whiteflame wasn’t lying.

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Like seriously how do you not vote Supa here?
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Online. Investigated Supa, He’s innocent.
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I’ve thought it through and read the whole DP.

Aside from Sui, I think the most obvious scum is Supa. His response to my being sussed was rushed and ham-fisted. He basically just jumped on the lynch because a wagon was building, ignoring anything else being discussed in the DP, and has since vanished.

Pie is my other scum read. I had a suspicion after the end of the last DP when he rushed that lynch on Max, though he certainly wasn’t alone in that. His pushing the lynch on me, especially as hard as he did, with us at a likely 4-3-1 situation, doesn’t seem very townie to me. In fact, it seems as though his initial vote on Sui was tailor made to make it obvious that Sui had been Magistrated. My read on him is a little more WIFOM, but his behavior reads rather similar to his bussing from a recent live mafia game where he hard bussed his partner. 

Mikal might be pulling something, but the amount of slow and careful playing I’m seeing from him really doesn’t fit how I’ve seen him play mafia. Haven’t seen Mharman play before, but I’ve hard townread his behavior from the start and that’s only gotten more solid with time. ComputerNerd just screams newbie, and while I’ve been fooled by that before, I think this is genuine. And, of course, I buy GP’s claim.

Still waiting on ComputerNerd’s action. I’ll check in when I get back to see if he has posted.
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Like seriously how do you not vote Supa here?
I’m waiting for ComputerNerd’s results
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Upon seeing the results that’s completely fair

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Ugh I think it’s between Pie and Mikal for me this DP. Leaning on Pie.
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Wait a minute, why wasn’t ComputerNerd roleblocked?
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Mafia JOAT? Used something else in the night instead?

 Maybe like a redirect?!
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@ComputerNerd
Mind explaining why you chose to target Supa this time? You tried Badger before and got role blocked. Badger was still an option during this NP. Why didn’t you try him again?

Suffice it to say, I don’t trust this result.

Part of the problem here is that he was previously RB’d. Scum knew he was the Cop, yet he wasn’t RB’d again. Could mean that he was redirected like I was, could mean that scum somehow knew he was going to target Supa (entirely plausible that he’s The Godfather, as has been surmised), it could be that we’re all getting punked by fake results, or this could be the result of some other manipulation. Bottom line: the fact that he’s claiming a successful investigation is sus.

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I just don’t see how Charles Wilkes isn’t a magistrate. There’s no way he is JOAT, so the question will be scum or town magistrate. I think town based on Whiteflame’s behavior.
So JOAT must be someone else. 

Or ComputerNerd really is scum. But behavior and game theory tells me he is town.

Mikal and Pie. I am still leaning on Pie.
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@Mharman
Wait I just realized something.

If Mikal is telling the truth, we can just lynch him and then he can take out Sui. Hit two birds with one stone. If he flips town then you get rid of Sui and your other scumread in me tomorrow.

If Mikal is scum he dies and we lynch Sui tomorrow
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POE from my POV says that there’s 2 scum in WF, Supa, and Mikal since Sui is like 97% scum. 

Lynching Mikal is a win win situation for us.

VTL Mikal
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@whiteflame
I had you as a scum read from the start
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@ComputerNerd
This is a lie. I did not get a visit from you
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I thought of that too, but I am confirming it with Lunatic right now that the game won’t end. Waiting for a response.
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Wait what. ComputerNerd didn’t visit Supa?
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@Vader
ComputerNerd got CC’d. What is happening?!?!
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@ILikePie5
Not according to my PM. I get a notice when someone visits me and I did not get a message saying I was visited
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Unvote and do not revote
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Supa claims CN didn’t visit him
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Yep. My role states that I am notified of whoever visits me. No one visited me
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I feel like we are getting played by Mharman and ComputerNerd?



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Disregard. Luna just now sent me a PM saying that Computer visited me