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@sadolite
Willful sexual self destruction???
The gays I have known do not do so.
Who do you see doing so, and why?
Regards
DL
Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?
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@zedvictor4
nurtured nature. (See how you deliberately misconstrued my comment)
Nice that you knew I would do so with your made up undefined term of nurtured nature.
If you want to try English I am here for you.
Regards
DL
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@zedvictor4
"And let's be clear....I'm not the slightest bit interested in what other people get up to as long as they do it peaceably."
Nice. That should make you anti homophobes.
IMO, those who do not actively try to convert those immoral jerks, neglect your moral duty.
Right?
Regards
DL
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@GnosticChristianBishop
Choosing a lifestyle that ends you lineage is self destructive. Choosing a lifestyle that you know is considered unacceptable by the vast majority is self destructive. Choosing a lifestyle that promotes promiscuity with both adults and children is self destructive. Way back during the gay marriage debate I did a lot of research on homosexuality and how different it is than heterosexuality. My neighbors are gay and confirmed pretty much all of the differences. You can tell me there is no difference till you are blue in the face, it wont change what I know to be true.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
Homophobe is a term made up as an insult.
But in terms of terminology, homophobe is wholly inaccurate.
A compound of an abbreviation and a suffix.
Such is disregard for the accuracy of language.
Homophobia should mean:
An irrational fear of man.
The term homo as an abbreviation of homosexual, wasn't adopted until the 20th century.
Nonetheless:
It is very unlikely that any ideological opponent of homosexuality, actually has an irrational fear of homosexuals.
If someone is ideologically opposed to eating meat, does that make them a carnivorophobe?
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@zedvictor4
The term homophobe was created as a political weapon to marginalize and dehumanize anyone who would go against normalizing homosexuality and its political agenda. You are right on all counts. Don't cowtow to the homosexual agenda and see what happens. Homophobe will be the first word out of peoples mouths that do bow to the homosexual political agenda.
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@sadolite
the homosexual political agenda
Can you illuminate what you mean, specifically, by this? What exactly is the homosexual political agenda?
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@sadolite
Let me add to what you know.
Homophobes are poorly adjusted mentally. They discriminate without a just cause.
They, like you it seems, put sex, gender and reproduction over love.
You do know what love is I hope.
Regards
DL
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@zedvictor4
"It is very unlikely that any ideological opponent of homosexuality, actually has an irrational fear of homosexuals."
I agree.
Homophobes are rational in their arguments that discriminate without any just cause.
They are rational, while being immoral.
Regards
DL
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@ludofl3x
Wanting all the right all other citizens have is the only agenda I see.
One would think equal rights would be a part of American thinking.
Oh well.
Regards
DL
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@sadolite
"normalizing homosexuality"
When was homosexuality not alive and well in the human tribe/species?
Your hate is what is not normal.
Regards
DL
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@GnosticChristianBishop
Why does that same God create straight Christians to hate gays?
for the lulzz
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@sadolite
Homophobe will be the first word out of peoples mouths that do bow to the homosexual political agenda.
Would you prefer that these people just label you, I don't know, "garden variety asshole" be preferable? Because it's less specific? I'm not sure what would be the best option, like what's the BEST outcome you're after?
Can I guess?
Is it that gay people aren't comfortable in society in general, because of something they do that is in no way society's business?
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@ludofl3x
Point proven, You went out of your way to find some other form of insult to marginalize me as a human being because I wont cowtow to the homosexual political agenda. But that's OK because one has to care what what a person thinks of them in order to be offended or persuaded by them. Insult me and marginalize me all you want. You will never persuade me intellectually that homosexuality is normal behavior.
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@sadolite
The term homophobe was created as a political weapon to marginalize and dehumanize anyone who would go against normalizing homosexuality and its political agenda. You are right on all counts. Don't cowtow to the homosexual agenda and see what happens. Homophobe will be the first word out of peoples mouths that do bow to the homosexual political agenda.
Yes indeed. The looney left have nothing in the way of responses but to create new words they believe will win them the argument. As I have explained many times on this forum, a phobic person is someone that suffers from an irrational fear or dread of something or someone and it appears to me that it is the Homo community that suffers the imagined and irrational fear of anyone that is not homosexual.
Islam on the other hand is rightfully something to be feared , simply ask the relatives of all those slaughtered and survivors of the the Manchester Arena terrorist attack by Islam fanatic Salman Ramadan Abedi.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
So says another person with a biased or opposing agenda.
And everyone discriminates, based upon a cause....It's the nature of data processing.
So, rationally moral or rationally immoral....You choose.
And I agree, recreational sex was normalized, the first time it occurred.
What sadolite is clearly referring to is social normalisation in terms of acceptance, relative to ongoing changes in assumed morality.....Though clearly not a whole collective agreement...As ever there are avid Pro's (you), avid Con's (sadolite) and the not bothered such as my self.....Birth, life, death...Life's too short to fret about what two men do with their penises and orifices.
Data in, data assessment, data modification, data out......7.9 billion differing versions......And no one is right and no one is wrong.....Though if you think that there is a GOD, you could try and find it and ask it for a definitive answer.
Regards.
Zed.
"And no one is right and no one is wrong" Does this apply to all issues facing humanity? And if so how can anyone justify using the power of govt to push their political agendas on anyone. Your political agendas, views and concerns are completely subjective and invalid.
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@sadolite
For sure....All data output is subjective.
And I don't really have a political agenda, though I have concerns and views relative to my established data base which I enjoy discussing.
One of the roles of government is to push forwards ideas for change, and the basic format of the U.S. system dictates that the U.S. people select a government every 4 years and from thereon in the government gets on with things.....Like it or not.
Perhaps you think that a Putinesque approach would be better....Only any good though, if they represent all of your views and concerns.
And right and wrong are only relative to subjective points of view, though on certain issues there is often a collective agreement....But never complete agreement.
And finally....Your views and concerns are as valid as mine are, and also as valid as GnosticChristians are.....It's just that we don't always agree.
Homophone doesn't really address the issue or the thoughts behind why people feel that way towards homosexuals. Men can't stand the idea that a man would want to be in a position where men take on the role of a woman. Women can't stand the idea of there being men and women who don't want to breed. So basically people who are homophobic hate women at some level and apply that hatred to men they think act like women or women they think try to act like men. What they really are at their core is sexist pigs.
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@sadolite
how can anyone justify using the power of govt to push their political agendas
HOW DO YOU DO IT ?
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@Polytheist-Witch
More like normal people who have yet to be properly reared.
All of us being tribal, we like to show our loyalty to our own and we do so by looking for something to hate the other side for doing or being.
Note how your own government works.
They do the same thing and will find fault, even where there is none.
It is called putting your tribe ahead of your moral sense.
Regards
DL
"And no one is right and no one is wrong."
This is an outright lie when it come to the morality of Yahweh/Jesus.
Christians adore that genocidal prick.
I am right.
Prove me wrong.
I ask that of all Christians and they always run away from doing apologetics for the prick they say they adore.
Regards
DL
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@3RU7AL
I don't. The fact that I comment on shit doesn't mean I petition the govt to cram my views down your throat unlike the LGBTQ community and so many others who do. I work for a living I don't have time to stand in the streets crying like a little bitch while blocking traffic and petitioning govt to cram my views down peoples throats. Govt is for tyrants and the main tool of a tyrant. Just my opinion based on decades of observation.
@Poly.
A homophonic Zedku for Poly.
Down the road she rode.
To see the sea for four minutes.
She said aloud it is allowed.
And the sea was blue and the wind blew.
And would the wood be a piece of peace.
What a scene to be seen
Where the bear lay bare
Up to it's waist in waste.
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@sadolite
Govt is for tyrants and the main tool of a tyrant.
the "right" is just as much pro-authoritarian as the "left"
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@3RU7AL
What ever and the left is a bastion of virtue and freedom. Left Right Blah blah blah. Govt sucks no matter who runs it.
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@sadolite
Anarchy or Police State would suck even more wouldn't it?
What's the better alternative to an elected temporary government?
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@zedvictor4
What's the better alternative to an elected temporary government?
local sovereignty and RCV
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@3RU7AL
What's the difference.
You still end up with someone telling you what to do.
And there's still no guarantee that you will end up with you preferred choice candidate.
And how local does local mean.
Still only three options really.
Elected government.
Unelected government.
Anarchy....Though chaos will eventually result in one of the above.....More than likely some form of authoritarianism.
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@GnosticChristianBishop
Opinion without argument, and you God is a genocidal prick, be you want to admit it or not.
The God I serve is not a genocidal prick. I don't have a need to admit it or deny it.
Your opinion is premised in the fact that you serve your own god, whoever that is - and therefore all other gods are evil. Especially those who think your God are evil.
Moral people will agree.
Every person is moral. I am moral. Yet I don't agree with your opinion. I guess that logically makes your thought inconclusive. Or redundant. It's a little bit like saying dogs are animals. This is a truism. Yet it is a redundant statement. Perhaps you could have said - all moral people would agree. But that would be categorically wrong, since some moral people don't agree. Hence - your redundant statement or boring statement - "moral people will agree".
So let me add "Moral will people will disagree". Is that wrong or right? Well it is right - since I am a moral person, and I disagree. And you are a moral person - and you agree. hmmm.
A moral dilemma. LOL! Hardly.