Ozark Mafia Day Phase 1

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So my strongest town read is Disc. Coming up with the idea to gender claim was honestly a great idea, and I can’t see how mafia can abuse it (not with this theme), no matter how much paranoia I can develop at times. Aside from that he has been consistent in just about everything he posts.

I’ve posted about this before, but I believe Grey is a Survivor. Too risky to try as mafia. Period.

ComputerNerd is a tossup. No activity.

Airmax might be mafia given the lurking Supa pointed out, but there isn’t much else.

The more I think about it, the less I think there is hard evidence on Sui being scum. He contributed to the gender claim idea, claiming male in post #84. As for his theme knowledge, I have seen theme knowledge related contributions from him in Posts #64 and #112. While it isn’t much, he hasn’t posted much in this game in general. Unlike Airmax, there hasn’t been any lurking, at least not that I see.

Mikal has a lot of logic I agree with. Pretty much everything he has said has made a lot of sense to me. He is hesitant to condemn Sui but doesn’t outright defend him, and his presentation of Earth as a better push target also makes way more sense. While agreeing with me isn’t a complete town read, it certainly isn’t a scum read either; considering that some of those statements of his go against the grain of what looks like knee jerk reactions from other players, I especially don’t think he is buddying anyone. I lean town on him.

I honestly can’t read Pie right now, not based on any of his posts. His thoughts on me are not an indicator of affiliation. I am NOT going to be OMGUSing someone again.

Earth is interesting to me. His post asking if there is a womanizer in the game makes no sense to me. Perhaps if he was a character who was the victim of such an act the idea of them trying to analyze the theme would make sense. I would like a character claim from them. Maybe a role claim as well if the character claim yields more questions than answers.

Supa reads null. He has a good point on Airmax though.

Badger honestly seems scum to me. Earth is someone we should be pressuring (Airmax for activity + lurk too) and he blatantly attempts to shift the focus away from both Airmax and Earth to focus Sui, someone who we have no concrete evidence on. No hesitation whatsoever. He wants to lynch someone, but his only reasoning is “too much energy from first post”. You’d think even if he wanted to keep the game interesting he’d want to pick someone with more inconsistencies, like maybe Earth. Also I hate his logic on relying on the mafia team to kill inactives. They are not going to do that and I think Grey is still a better lynch he could’ve thrown out for the sake of a lynch. Being survivor, he might as well be inactive because his life contributes nothing to town. His death does a little though since a lynch on him has been a key discussion this DP. Even still he doubles down on Sui, when it is still too early to lock in right now.

Whiteflame is weird to me. While the debate around pressuring Earth or Sui is key, he seems to be suspicious of both. Mikal seems the be as well, but he does more to outline his reasoning, which I think is only because he is more active in general. Ever so slightly town. Could honestly be null.
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@ILikePie5
My hyper-posting wasn't out of pressure I felt. It was out of boredom. A game with few active players at the time does little to keep me engaged, so I made my own engagement.
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So you don’t think Airmax is lurking? 
1. I don't think he's lurking. I think he just does not give a fuck. 

2. If he is, I don't care. He's not playing the game. I want to play the game with other people who are playing the game. 
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I'm going to bed. 
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Time check?
"Day Phase 1 ends on Monday, January 31st, at 9:30 AM CST. "


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@Earth
Unvote VTL Earth

Character claim?
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If I was giving a rough shot read on what I think right now, tldr version

1. Me - drool
2. iLikePie5 - slight scum
3. Supadudz - drool
4. Badger - town
5. DD - slight scum
6. Earth - null
7. ComputerNerd - null
8. Suigeneris - null to slight town
9. Mharman - drool
10. Whiteflame - null to slight town
11. Greyparrot - dead
12. Airmax122 - null


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@badger
1. I don't think he's lurking. I think he just does not give a fuck. 
Then either way (mafioso or not giving a fuck) he is being a detriment to town and we should pressure him, too. If you want a game with other active players, get rid of the inactives or pressure them into activity.
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Guys we still have all of Sunday. No need to lock in until later in Sunday. I think we just need to quickly pressure some players.
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I think we just need to quickly pressure some players.
this is objectively correct  and until we do, im staying on gp because hes the best lynch
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Guys we still have all of Sunday. No need to lock in until later in Sunday. I think we just need to quickly pressure some players.
Oh, and then lynch someone if we get an obvious scum slip from them. If we don't, Grey is the best option.

Priorities for me are:

1. Pressure Earth
2. Pressure Earth more (if needed)
3. Pressure Airmax
4. Lynch (Earth or Airmax if we get a scum slip, Grey if we don't)
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@Mikal
Fair. Do you think you could get off of Grey real quick just to add pressure to Earth and then get back on Grey once we get answers from them?
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"We Are Not Husband And Wife Anymore. We're Just Business Partners. And Our Job Is To Raise Those Kids."

Earth - 1/7-mharman
Greyparrot- 1/7- Mikal
Sui_Generis- 2 /7- Badger, Greyparrot
ComputerNerd- 1/7- Whiteflame
Airmax- 3/7- iLikePie5, DD, supadudz


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@ComputerNerd
soft activity prod
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And don't think I forgot about you. You will be pressured DP2 if you don't post.
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Also looking at the show on Wikipedia, I think we'll see at least some of these guys, so it may be in our interest to preemptively slot them into an affiliation:

Marty Byrde (likely town)
Wendy Byrdy
Ruth Langmore
Jonah Byrde (probably vanilla town if present)
Camino Del Rio
Jacob Snell (likely mafia)
Darlene Snell (likely mafia)
Roy Petty (power role?)
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@badger
Please replace someone. 
I can do that if asked, but I won't read anything prior to me entering the game, unless I am scum. 
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Ask Lunatic if you feel compelled to do so.
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Sorry for the inactivity. I don't have the time tonight to read through this DP, but I will try to when I have a chance - hopefully tomorrow.

In the meantime, the least I can do is offer my character claim.

I am Helen Pierce.
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I don't think it makes sense to pursue either Airmax or ComputerNerd at this point (Unvote). Neither is being responsive, and even if Pie is right that Max is lurking (he probably is), that doesn't help us at this stage unless we're willing to lynch him. Clearly just putting pressure on these two has done nothing, and while that might change, I'm not willing to keep pushing it if it's just going to mire us in the same spot.

GP is similar in that regard. He has already full claimed, so voting for him only makes sense if we're pursuing that lynch. As many others have said, he's a good lynch if we have no one to rally a vote against, so voting for him at this stage is pointless.

I've already said who is on my potential scum list, and two already have votes on them. Right now, I'm willing to pursue a claim from either Sui or Earth, it really doesn't matter to me given that my suspicions against Sui are, essentially, what I would expect him to do as a townie who is knowledgeable about the theme, though my limited experience playing with him makes that somewhat suspect, and my suspicions of Earth are built on intuition. Still, at least for the moment, I'm putting my vote down on Earth to try and get some info, especially as his more recent posts look pretty fluffy, particularly where he says that he's "thinking as hard as" he can about Mharman's mindset behind his opening posts. Pretty weak, and hasn't posted any reads yet. Not that Sui's been more cooperative, but it sounds like Earth was trying to make it look like he was engaged and throw the smallest bit of shade he could.

VTL Earth
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Ok, I've seen people on here pressuring me to post. I was asleep, and I apologize for maintaining a healthy life.

Seriously though, Here's some information.

I'm Roy Petty, and Mharman was right about it being a power role.

Reading through the forum, I agree with Whiteflame, Earth is the best vote here.

Sorry for being inactive, I'll try to be more active in DP2

VTL EARTH
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Sorry for the inactivity. I don't have the time tonight to read through this DP, but I will try to when I have a chance - hopefully tomorrow.

In the meantime, the least I can do is offer my character claim.

I am Helen Pierce.
Well, at least you're active now.

This claim looks... troubling. From what I've read on the character, Helen Pierce is an antagonist, so if the split is that basic (protagonists and supporters vs. antagonists), then this looks like trouble. That being said, I don't think that Max would claim this if he knew that that was the theme split, and I think it would be relatively obvious to scum if it was.

This makes the male-female split is 7-4, with only ComputerNerd being unclear, so it is possible that it's men vs. women with the female TP.  If that is the case, again, I have a hard time believing that scum would put themselves in a position where they are all the female standouts from the rest of us.

So I'm not quite sure what to make of this claim yet. Have some ideas on the potential role. I'll read more into the character.
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Ok, I've seen people on here pressuring me to post. I was asleep, and I apologize for maintaining a healthy life.

Seriously though, Here's some information.

I'm Roy Petty, and Mharman was right about it being a power role.

Reading through the forum, I agree with Whiteflame, Earth is the best vote here.

Sorry for being inactive, I'll try to be more active in DP2

VTL EARTH
Alright, so another antagonist and a claimed PR that brings the count to 8 men - 4 women. At least everyone has posted now, and we have a claimed PR, a claimed TP, and a claimed character on the table.

I'm tired, just saw this, so I'm going to end off here and read into these characters more tomorrow.
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Good for now. Seems to be a huge advisor to Marty, this Helen
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Oh geez. If there is a doctor or some protective role PLEASE PROTECT COMPUTERNERD TONIGHT.
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@whiteflame
You gathered something different about Helen than I did from Wikipedia?
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@Mharman
Would you have preferred I didn't character claim?
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@Mharman
Would you have preferred I didn't character claim?
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Sorry I did it twice, glitched
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@ComputerNerd
Ok this is a noob mistake that I won’t hold against you too much but if you have a power role as town, keep it secret for some time. Mafia is 100% going to kill you in the next night phase (NP1) now, likely nullifying whatever power role you have.
 
Unless your power role passively kills mafia, then you want to bait mafia.

As for the current situation: If you are a vigilante, I would say don’t use it, if you are a bomb, don’t reveal that. If you are what I think you are, use it even though you’re probably dead anyways.