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@badger
HI! badger!
Ozark Mafia Day Phase 1
Posts
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@Earth
@Vader
@whiteflame
@Mharman
@Discipulus_Didicit
Reads?
"If I want to put all $7,945,400 into a hot tub, get buck naked and play Scrooge McDuck, that is 100% my business."
Earth - 1/7- Mikal
Sui_Generis- 2 /7- Badger, Greyparrot
ComputerNerd- 2/7- Whiteflame, mharman
Airmax- 2/7- iLikePie5, DD
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@Lunatic
Time check?
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@ILikePie5
I'll put Mikal in the lean town pile along with badger. I don't remember badgers play but I think I can read their posts to each other as town. Maybe last game was just something else, but you (Pie) don't seem as 'towny'.
I don't remember Mhar's meta or Sui's.
I read Mhar's opening posts and I'm thinking as hard as I can about his mindset when he made that post.
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@Earth
I'll put Mikal in the lean town pile along with badger. I don't remember badgers play but I think I can read their posts to each other as town. Maybe last game was just something else, but you (Pie) don't seem as 'towny'.
I doubt I’ll ever be as towny as I was last game. How many 11 player games have you seen that have been solved DP2 lol
“And if I want to put all $7,945,400 into a hot tub get buck naked and play Scrooge McDuck, that is 100% my business. Now, where’s my money?”
- Martin ‘Marty’ Byrde (Ozark 2017)
- Martin ‘Marty’ Byrde (Ozark 2017)
So we know one character that is likely in the game
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@ILikePie5
Generally you play aggressively though.
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@Mikal
So we know one character that is likely in the game
He’s the main character from some reading I’ve done
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@Earth
Generally you play aggressively though.
I don’t really have a scumread atm. That’s why I’m trying to get Max and CN on to get on.
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@airmax1227
@ComputerNerd
You both need to give your genders and character claim at the very least.
Pending If max and nerd reply , I may change my vote as well. I legitimately have no idea how to handle inactives and it's partially why I rage so much and hate playing on dart. People that dont participate are impossible to read and could be town or Mafia. The pressure is likely best there if they don't respond soon. I would really like to see earth claim for the reasons I mentioned before but If we have people who are going to ghost we almost have to push tag direction
Bases on how utterly useless this dp has been. We likely end on gp no matter how what
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@ILikePie5
Sorry, been busy today.
Max and ComputerNerd are both posting too minimally to read, so they're both automatically null. Because of their general lack of posting, I'm more focused on these two than anyone else.
GP is claimed TP and I buy it. He's an autolynch at some point, but the only reason I'd support that lynch this DP is if there are no decent scum reads.
My townreads are Badger and Mharman. The ways in which they're both tackling this just seems very towny, even if I disagree with Badger's read on me.
Largely null read Supa, Pie, and DD. They're all playing largely by the same metas I've seen before, but I've been baffled by Pie and Supa before, and I'm wary of DD, even if I have little basis for it in this game.
Right now, Sui would be highest on my list of potential scum reads. Considering his apparent knowledge of the topic, he's contributed far less than I expected. Don't really see him doing much analysis of potential splits beyond the incredibly basic. I know Luna said that this is a non-complex theme split, but especially for someone who knows this show, it seems a bit strange to me that he hasn't explored alternative possibilities beyond what others have suggested.
It's been a while since we've had Mikal in a game, and his generally toned down behavior has me a little off kilter, even if I feel that his contributions are townie.
My read on Earth is more of a gut check. Can't say that anything specific stands out, but something about his behavior is rubbing me the wrong way.
That's an interesting post. I could switch Mikal and whiteflame in my scum pool honestly.
I do think I have a decent TR on DD though, and Pie I offhandedly townread, and maybe Supa too, but I'd rather figure out what I'm on that revisiting those.
Mikal has defended Sui pretty strongly.
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@ILikePie5
Reads
Nothing really sticks out like a sore thumb for me to town read. A lot of it relies on how behaviorally people act.
Mhar's hyper activity comes off as town. He usually was like this when we did BAMF mafia and I think this is a constant. So now he is a lean town
I have an FOS on Max. I damn well know he's been active because he's played live mafia and advertised his signups but is inactive.
Nerd's activity is a constant with him as town so lean town
Most are null ATM because I can't gage much, but my gut is kinda leaning badger as scum for some reason. Idk why, maybe his overconfidence and stuff is a bit menacing
Also, policy lynches are extremely lazy. They should be a last case scenario.
Grey is survivor. He's guaranteed to be lynched at some point, so him doing that as mafia would make 0 logical sense
I agree with WF about this to a degree, but I do not think really applies to Sui. We have only revealed genders so it's hard to decide theme based on that. While yes, we could go into hypotheticals, it is a waste of a DP
I disagree with Mikal where he says that we should keep Sui alive because of his knowledge of the game. No one should be safe from lynch unless they are mod confirmed town
To add on to that point, especially if that user knows characters revealed and COULD contribute to theme analysis but limits himself. I wouldn't rule out Sui tho, we kinda forced him to think of ideas
I want to pressure Max. He's had the time to post his tourney and do live mafia but no time to commentate on mafia. Seems lurkish
VTL Max
VTL Max
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@Vader
I want to pressure Max. He's had the time to post his tourney and do live mafia but no time to commentate on mafia. Seems lurkish
True. He’s been active. He’s obviously seen multiple pings from the game but willingly chooses to ignore them. Even a simple post like I’ll post tonight would be better than nothing.
We need more people on Max
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@Earth
@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Mikal
@badger
Thoughts on Max lurking as Supa pointed out?
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@ILikePie5
I think this DP is going to end on a NL. Vote Sui. Lynching someone who's not posted at all is no fun, mafia or not.
I think we're not even attempting to play this game like it should be played if we're lynching inactives or obvious survivors. It's just a roles lottery then.
Let's just lynch Sui lol.
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@whiteflame
@badger
WF - Toned down primarily because there is not another option. Me bitching at people and being pissed never does anything in forum games so even when I'm right I just get policy lynched. That being said I am fuming inside because the lack of activity actually irks me into no end and makes me regret signing up
Badger - This is not "defending sui" , just applying what i saw in life mafia last night as that was my first major interaction with him in mafia that I can recall. I've played with him before , but not where he was basically town locked in my mind and had to help carry. WF can attest to this, he is very weird as town. I am not defending him and don't mind having pressure there at some point. I'm saying it's easier to put pressure on someone that is not aware of the theme because they are likely to slip when pressure on him would likely yield nothing.
1) because he is not posting so has unlimited time to just think if he's scum and his meta is inactive so everyone puts it to null
2) because he is aware of theme so he can wing this better than others
theme knowledge does a lot when no one knows what to look for if that makes sense. Don't mistake me wanting to pick a better target as me "defending him"
i just honestly think that direction yields nothing because theme knowledge + inactivity is a bad direction when others are likely to fuck up more than someone with ways to squirm around. I think looking at roles / night actions is where you will catch him if hes scum because he then has to think on his feet
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@badger
I think this DP is going to end on a NL. Vote Sui. Lynching someone who's not posted at all is no fun, mafia or not.
That wasn’t my question. Inactivity = No Posting is completely different than Lurking = No Posting. In your experience is lurking not a common sign of mafia?
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@badger
I think we're not even attempting to play this game like it should be played if we're lynching inactives or obvious survivors. It's just a roles lottery then.
Lynching TPs is better than lynching Max or CN, but the fact that you’re discounting lurking is odd to me
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@badger
Also can you give me a concise version of your scumread on Sui?
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@ILikePie5
Lynch an inactive and they turn mafia, it's a fluke. That's a boring game, dude.
Go with your gut on any active player here, and maybe let's have fun, and maybe let's learning something about actually reading people. There's literally nothing to read about Max.
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@ILikePie5
I have largely townread around him + that thing I wrote about his first posts.