Anime / Game waifu Mafia DP2

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@Wylted
I don't think Earth would CC as scum, so yes. I think your theory of 2 scum teams makes sense as well. Perhaps one NK went through and the other did not. 
If the other did not go through it could be because you were protected by earth. 
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As for what Wylted said he did during the last NP, I've always been wary of claims of redirection or those those that similarly mess with night actions by transferring them onto someone else. They're difficult to validate. It might explain some of what happened during the NP, but whether it "vindicates" me, as you say, is up to everyone. Especially given that this is on the table, it's pretty clear that a lot happened during the NP, and I don't think that my trying to explain it is going to get us anywhere.
His claim definitely vindicates you because it solves two questions: Why did Warren die, and why you were found guilty by a cop if you are actually town. There could be the possibility of a framer if the stars aligned there, I guess, but what was wylted's motivation in claiming what he did? I am leaning towards buying it right now, and your half skepticism towards wylted makes the plausibility of you two working together to save the mafia's skin as a last ditch effort less plausible to me. Or it is good acting, but it seems innocent enough. 


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Can we get a character claim?
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Lets get a character claim from you too for good measure, maybe we can figure out a theme split. 
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Graveyard

Greyparrot- Lucy (Kaede)- (Elfen Lied)- 1x hunter- Mafia?

Supadudz- Lucy Heartfilia- (Fairy Tail)- JOAT (Roleblock, Jailkeep, Hider, BP) -Town

Warren- Sarah Kerrigan- (Starcraft)- Vote hider/ Silencer- Mafia

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Pie- Caitlyn Kirraman- (League of Legends)- Cop (Investigated whiteflame guilty np1) - (frozen 
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Whiteflame- Alexstrasza - (Warcraft) - Doctor (protected pie np1) 
 
Earth- Sakura Haruno- (Naruto) - Doctor (protected wylted np1)
 
Wylted- Rias Gremory- (Highschool DxD) JOAT (passive that tells people he’s innocent when visited if activated, 1 way bus-driver, and ability to give someone a random ability)
 
Character Claims
 
Lunatic - Yuno Gasai- (Future Diary)- has information that looks good for max, not neccesarily town confirmation though.
 
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Dd/computer- (Frozen Solid message)
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I will be horrible with this theme. The only Waifu I know about is Earth's character Sakura, because I watched a couple seasons of naruto a few years back. Honestly didn't know Mike watched that one.

It's probably worth doing a little theme analysis here, but I am not going to go crazy on this unless the last few claims reveal something substantial. If this is a vague theme split there's no way I care enough to try and figure it out. 

I have an idea of what the theme split is but would like to get the rest of the character claims out just before delving into any theories. I know mafia has a fake claim, so I will take getting these last few with a grain of salt.




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If my theme split theory is correct this game could be an easy solve. But things are never usually that easy. I won't hold too much hope on it being that easy but so far my theory is in line with events that have occurred. And if correct it indicates the remaining mafia players. I have some behavioral analysis to go along with it as well but it won't be like exntensive in depth analysis. 
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I'm pretty sure that we could probably get the lynch right, right now and end this game. I'd love to do it.

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@ILikePie5
Ok this makes more sense. Can you confirm that you chose Warren to be the Rook.
Warren was rook


Also can you confirm the NK is an “action” that can be redirected with the Castling
Confirmed. 
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Did you get a screenshot of your character? If so can you describe said screenshot?
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my guess on the theme split is completely wrong btw, dismiss what I said about cracking the game lol. Still would like to see the remaining claims though. 
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@Lunatic
His claim definitely vindicates you because it solves two questions: Why did Warren die, and why you were found guilty by a cop if you are actually town. There could be the possibility of a framer if the stars aligned there, I guess, but what was wylted's motivation in claiming what he did? I am leaning towards buying it right now, and your half skepticism towards wylted makes the plausibility of you two working together to save the mafia's skin as a last ditch effort less plausible to me. Or it is good acting, but it seems innocent enough. 
A framer is always an outside possibility, as is a flavored cop, though I think we'd be starting to get into even more complicated territory if we expand to all possible options for how this shook out the way it did. Generally, I'm wary of explanations that involve the stars aligning in a very particular way (with multiple parties acting on the same person, resulting in convoluted information), though I've been burned before like in our live game a few weeks ago when we found out that Danielle had been Tracked to the target of the NK.

Did you get a screenshot of your character? If so can you describe said screenshot?
It shows her standing in her human form, skimpy outfit that leaves little to the imagination (largely just a metallic bikini), pauldrons (shoulder armor), a red cloak and red gauntlets. She's got big horns set in a sort of jeweled headpiece. She's carrying a necklace in one hand and is suggestively smiling with her tongue partially out of her mouth. There's an image of her dragon form behind her and flames around her silhouette.


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A framer is always an outside possibility, as is a flavored cop, though I think we'd be starting to get into even more complicated territory if we expand to all possible options for how this shook out the way it did. Generally, I'm wary of explanations that involve the stars aligning in a very particular way (with multiple parties acting on the same person, resulting in convoluted information), though I've been burned before like in our live game a few weeks ago when we found out that Danielle had been Tracked to the target of the NK.

Even if you are to throw the "stars aligned" argument back at me, you still don't really have an answer for the "why did warren die" thing though. That combined with the results, makes all those things being "conviences" a lot more like caused variables. If you wanted to argue that there was some mafia manipulation here with warrens death (maybe they killed warren to set all this up? Would the mod even allow that?) I could maybe buy into that as an argument. I've been running through some different theories myself, but most of them are falling flat or seeming too unlikely that I am dismissing them. At the end of the day though, the way things have played out definitely seem to indicate that either you are both scum pulling some grand scheme together, or he is town and telling the truth therefor making you town as well. Again, as a naive townie, I am willing to admit that there could be mafia manipulation here that I am not  seeing prima facia, if you have any theories I am not seeing I emplore you to share them with me.

It shows her standing in her human form, skimpy outfit that leaves little to the imagination (largely just a metallic bikini), pauldrons (shoulder armor), a red cloak and red gauntlets. She's got big horns set in a sort of jeweled headpiece. She's carrying a necklace in one hand and is suggestively smiling with her tongue partially out of her mouth. There's an image of her dragon form behind her and flames around her silhouette.
Interesting. When I looked up your character the wowpedia link was kind of vague about your characters human form. "Her humanoid form is that of a high elf."
The couple pictures of her human form seem a lot less playful than what you describe. I suppose mikal could have supplied some fan art for yours though. 

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I know some anime, unfortunately not a lot about this type of anime. From the character list I assembled, do you have any working theories on theme split? My grand spectacular theme split I had in mind was "Video game VS tv show anime" until I properly looked at the title of the day phase lol. Now I feel a bit idiotic. But I know you watch a bit of anime, so since supa is gone, your kind of our expert here. Any thoughts?
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Even if you are to throw the "stars aligned" argument back at me, you still don't really have an answer for the "why did warren die" thing though. That combined with the results, makes all those things being "conviences" a lot more like caused variables. If you wanted to argue that there was some mafia manipulation here with warrens death (maybe they killed warren to set all this up? Would the mod even allow that?) I could maybe buy into that as an argument. I've been running through some different theories myself, but most of them are falling flat or seeming too unlikely that I am dismissing them. At the end of the day though, the way things have played out definitely seem to indicate that either you are both scum pulling some grand scheme together, or he is town and telling the truth therefor making you town as well. Again, as a naive townie, I am willing to admit that there could be mafia manipulation here that I am not  seeing prima facia, if you have any theories I am not seeing I emplore you to share them with me.
Yeah, Warren's death is peculiar. I can't say that it's obvious why he died, but Wylted's ability could explain why. It's possible that there's a Vig who hasn't spoken up yet, and that scum targeted someone who was protected or just didn't use their NK for some reason. Max suggested the possibility of two separate scum teams, which would also make sense of it, though my experience with that kind of setup is one where there is a Lone Wolf and a separate pair of scum who have the NK. If that was true, I would have expected to see Warren's flip include the Lone Wolf somewhere, but it doesn't. So I don't have a solid explanation for you, since all of these are somewhat contrived, but they would all make some sense of what happened.

Interesting. When I looked up your character the wowpedia link was kind of vague about your characters human form. "Her humanoid form is that of a high elf."
The couple pictures of her human form seem a lot less playful than what you describe. I suppose mikal could have supplied some fan art for yours though. 
She does have pointed ears, though from my experience with the game (I played a lot of WoW back in the day), I always associated that with her just retaining some of the draconic traits (hence the horns as well). And yeah, she's generally a very serious character, though I wouldn't be too surprised if a lot of us got fan art.

I know some anime, unfortunately not a lot about this type of anime. From the character list I assembled, do you have any working theories on theme split? My grand spectacular theme split I had in mind was "Video game VS tv show anime" until I properly looked at the title of the day phase lol. Now I feel a bit idiotic. But I know you watch a bit of anime, so since supa is gone, your kind of our expert here. Any thoughts?
Been wracking my brain on this one. Sarah Kerrigan turned to the dark side, worked with the heroes for a bit, and then went back to being the Zerg queen badass that she was. Lucy is... kind of a mixed bag when it comes to affiliation. She's not a villain per-say, but considering how much damage she has done at various times over the course of Elfen Lied, I'd say she's not exactly heroic. If it wasn't for your claim of Yuno Gasai, I would have said that the split was between heroic figures (even Rias Gremory is kind of in that camp if you squint, but Lucy, Sakura and Caitlyn are definitely in that camp) and non-heroic characters, but Yuno is a yandere with some serious issues. If anything, I'd say that she has more in common with Lucy than anyone else who has claimed so far.

That being said, I don't think that's the split anymore. It seems too basic and I don't think Mikal is doing that. It apparently has nothing to do with being human or not, nothing obvious to do with their ages, and the only other splits I can figure are rather arbitrary choices that I don't like. I'm still thinking this one through, though with three characters unclaimed, it will be difficult to figure out.
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Yeah, Warren's death is peculiar. I can't say that it's obvious why he died, but Wylted's ability could explain why. It's possible that there's a Vig who hasn't spoken up yet, and that scum targeted someone who was protected or just didn't use their NK for some reason. Max suggested the possibility of two separate scum teams, which would also make sense of it, though my experience with that kind of setup is one where there is a Lone Wolf and a separate pair of scum who have the NK. If that was true, I would have expected to see Warren's flip include the Lone Wolf somewhere, but it doesn't. So I don't have a solid explanation for you, since all of these are somewhat contrived, but they would all make some sense of what happened.
I've racked my brain about possible ways we could be being manipulated here, and I keep reverting to this is most likely the simplest answer that wylted is telling the truth. I have even run through some possibilities where pie and wylted are a scum team and that whole argument about when they recieved the PM dp1 was a fake to put distance between them. Still not entirely convinced that isn't the case, but pie/wylted scum team could make sense of things. But I don't think I could make a convincing case out of that. 

I'm still thinking this one through, though with three characters unclaimed, it will be difficult to figure out.
Probably best to wait out the remaining characters then. Thanks for the input. 
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As far as I can tell, there is no consensus vote so far. So, I will hold off voting for a while.

Since I've seen people talking about themes, here's our character. 

Aerith Gainsborough - You are probably one of the first major waifus in gaming. Loving, kind, caring and loyal you have all the qualities someone looks for. You were also beloved by the fan base so that made your death that much harder to handle. You were one of the first major characters in a FF to die in the way that you did and it twisted the story on it's head. Fans mourned you and still to do this day, your death scene is one of the most heart wrenching moments in jrpg history. But through your death you protected the entire world from meteor and sephiroth


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Hope this resolves something
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Thanks for the character claim. While that looks good for you townie wise, I am not sure what the mods rules on copy and pasting descriptions are and I worry you might get penalized if that was copy pasted. Also that may have tipped mafia off to what your role is. Hope that's not the case.
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Graveyard

Greyparrot- Lucy (Kaede)- (Elfen Lied)- 1x hunter- Mafia?

Supadudz- Lucy Heartfilia- (Fairy Tail)- JOAT (Roleblock, Jailkeep, Hider, BP) -Town

Warren- Sarah Kerrigan- (Starcraft)- Vote hider/ Silencer- Mafia

Living Players

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Pie- Caitlyn Kirraman- (League of Legends)- Cop (Investigated whiteflame guilty np1) (frozen 
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Whiteflame- Alexstrasza - (Warcraft) - Doctor (protected pie np1) 
 
Earth- Sakura Haruno- (Naruto) - Doctor (protected wylted np1)
 
Wylted- Rias Gremory- (Highschool DxD) JOAT (passive that tells people he’s innocent when visited if activated, 1 way bus-driver, and ability to give someone a random ability)
 
Character Claims
 
Lunatic - Yuno Gasai- (Future Diary)- has information that suggests max is likely town
 
Dd/computer- Aerith Gainsborough- (Frozen Solid)
 
Unclaimed
 
Sui
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If Wylted is PGO I should be dead.
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If Wylted is PGO I should be dead.
He has to activate it is my point.
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Did you get a screenshot of your character? If so can you describe said screenshot?
Ya a blue outfit with a blue miniskirt. Blue cap kinda like a police officer’s. Brown belt with handcuffs. A gun in her hand that’s pretty long. And a bikini top that ties at the neck with cleavage. Purple/blue hair.
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My picture is Sakura standing up tying her hair into a ponytail with a hair tie in her mouth. Don't think we have 2 mafia teams. 
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I want Sui and Max to claim. 
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Hi guys. Looks like we have a counter claim on whiteflame as well as a guilty result. I am guessing from the OP and events last day phase there was likely two scum teams, which was probably why whiteflame was super okay lynching Greyparrot. Maybe 2 v 2 v 7? 
Reading through the DP and making points as I go so sorry if this has been addressed, but read this from warrens PM:

You win with the mafia. If your partners die, you will assume the role of night killing.
Based on this I think there is just one scum team and warren had a kind of 'traitor' role (i.e. scum but not in the PM).
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Okay, given wylted doing that redirecting the guilty result is to be ignored but we still have a CC so lynch between lunatic or WF.

Note to self to check their character claims and review the way each claimed doc.
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Based on this I think there is just one scum team and warren had a kind of 'traitor' role (i.e. scum but not in the PM).
Ya that’s essentially what a Lone Wolf does. 
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Like I said if this was already brought up I apoligize, still catching up.