Just some things to consider,
as well as things like this:
- You have to be more clear as to your reasons. News about ISIS attacking this or that are simply not relevant to the point in question. In the real world, Islamic debates takes place all over the world on a daily basis -including in the US, & thousands of channels criticize Islam & Muslims 24/7. You're yourself doing that this very moment & on every occasion you find to respond to me. It is obvious that 'I am afraid to debate Islam, because ISIS attacked someone in Bangladesh in 2016, or some dude got assassinated in Iran' is not a valid defense. If I was among them, I'm sure they will behead me immediately too, for I am Ash'ari & Sufi. Yet here I am speaking leisurely about my faith.
- As to ISIS, they are mostly followers of the Sururi faction of Wahhabis, who are anti-Saudi government; contrasted against the Jami faction, the mainstream in Saudi Arabia & loyal to the state. Sururis are followers of Juhayman (the guy who caused the 1979 Holy Mosque crisis), who is also a follower of Ikhwan-men-tahllah, a branch of the Saudi military. In early 20th century, this group along with other Wahhabis was supported & funded & armed by the British to undermine Hashimite control of Arabia, to dismantle the Ottoman Empire. Sururis -hence ISIS- believe that followers of the traditional schools of Islam are either innovators or straight kafir, that Sufis are kafir, & that anybody can interpret the Quran & Hadith without need for scholarship, contradicting the traditional schools. In fact, during the Saudi Wahhabi conquest of Arabia, Ikhwan-men-tahllah massacred entire Muslim towns with their women & children, such as Taif & Hayl in Arabia. ISIS is actually not as bad as its predecessor.
I am not a Christian for starters, so your attack is mostly irrelevant, neither are most of those you debate against.
- So, if I say "West is wrong" you don't find appropriate to say "Islam is wrong too"?
Christianity doesn't have lines like this though:
- If you mean, the Bible does not have lines exactly like this, then I suppose you're right. If you mean, the Bible does not have lines as bad or worse than this, then that's inaccurate.
"And now, slay every male among the infants, indeed, slay every woman knowing a man by the lying of a male, and all the infants among the women who have not known the lying of a male you have kept alive for yourselves." Numbers 13:17-18
"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profanes her father: she shall be burnt with fire.".
"Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword. I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." Matthew 10:34-35
"But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.” Luke 19:27
Those who said about their brothers while sitting [at home], "If they had obeyed us, they would not have been killed." Say, "Then prevent death from yourselves, if you should be truthful." And never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead. Rather, they are alive with their Lord, receiving provision,
- I'd preferred if this was brought to its full conclusion, i.e. what is the point of objection, & why is that objection the case. I'll try to fill in the blanks myself then. First thing's first. This verse has been revealed in the aftermath of the Battle of Uhud, in which the Quraysh attacked the Medina (the beloved Prophet's city). Over 70 Muslims died, including the Prophet (pbuh)'s uncle. Objections that may be raised here:
- The killed is dead, contrarily to the verse stating those killed are not to be thought of as dead. – Objection: statement contradictory to reality. – Answer: they are indeed physically dead, for they are killed, but spiritually alive with their Lords in the next life.
- Death in the cause of Allah is good, for those killed in the cause of Allah are special to Him. – Objection: death in the cause of Allah should be bad. As to why that might be the case, I'll leave it to you. – Answer: death in the cause of Allah, aka Shahada (Martyrdom), means death while in the struggle to defend or pursue the cause of Allah, which is Justice & Compassion. Examples of people the beloved Prophet (pbuh) deemed martyrs: who is killed in battle fighting to defend his nation, who is killed defending his family or his property, who is killed speaking truth against a tyrant ruler, who sunk while in a good cause, who died by an accident while performing a good deed, a mother who dies giving birth...etc.
