The Resistance - Mission Two

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Mission Proposal Voting

Mission: Jailbreak
Mission Leader: ILikePie5
Mission team: ILikePie5, Oromagi, and Whiteflame

Yes votes: oromagi (1/3)
No votes: RationalMadman (1/3)
Not voting: Earth, SupaDudz, and Whiteflame

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M1:-  Earth, RM
VC:  Oro, WF, Pie

Oromagi
xSupaDudz
-IlikePie5
-Whiteflame
--Earth
--RationalMadman




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Alright, now that I've had an overnight to consider it, I would agree with RM that Supa is starting to look more like a part of the Resistance. The questions that he's posing don't look anything like what we would expect if he was on a team with someone else. That being said, we know that either Earth or RM is a Spy, and if it's the former, it wouldn't be too terribly surprising for Supa to just be out of the loop entirely because of a lack of communication. So, at minimum, I don't see a Supa-RM Spy team happening. Right now, Supa is the one person who I see as least likely to be a Spy.

I also think that it's unlikely that there is a Pie-RM Spy team, though I'm less confident in that one. RM was the one suggesting that, as a Spy, he'd have good reason to want to sabotage on Mission 1. I doubt that Pie would be on board with that, but Pie wouldn't have been in the driver's seat, so he may have posted about it being a "bad move" with the express purpose of distancing himself from the decision as much as possible. That being said, given the short time between the start of Mission 1 and the start of this discussion, I don't see it as all that likely that they were in chat together, as it likely would have led to at least some amount of argument between them.

All of this is focused on a possible RM Spy. It's a tougher call with Earth being the Spy, though right now, I'd say I'm leaning towards RM being the likelier of the two by a small margin. With that assumption (first to admit, it's based more on intuition than actual evidence), that would just leave me and Oro as possible Spy partners to RM, which means that I would advocate taking Oro off the current team and putting Supa on in his place. If I go by the assumption that it's Earth and not RM, then Oro would still be a plausible Spy among the remaining players (Pie's response to my suspecting him makes me think that it's not him, and Supa's being so uninformed still doesn't fit his normal play as scum in mafia, where he usually at least stays informed). There's always the possibility that Earth and RM are both Spies, though I'd say that is the least likely of the three and then it doesn't really matter who we leave off.

So, at least until someone gives me a good reason to change my mind, I'm voting no.
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sab was smart by Earth, idk what the debate is. What's dumb by Earth is doing so super inactive after it. I'm going to succeed in resistance-telling now, thanks to his incompetence as a spy in the typing arena.
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I don't agree that it was a smart choice. Earth being inactive may not be smart, but it's pretty usual for him. 

In any case, we're both on the same page about excluding Oro, so this seems pretty minor.
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Lol wait Spies can sabotage? I didn't read that in the main rules but I guess it's just an add on
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only the spies can sabotage...
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Let's see some votes, it's down to you two to decide whether this mission plan goes forward.

Mission: Jailbreak
Mission Leader: ILikePie5
Mission team: ILikePie5, Oromagi, and Whiteflame

Yes votes: oromagi (1/3)
No votes: RationalMadman and whiteflame (2/3)
Not voting: Earth and SupaDudz

Next in line for mission leadership if rejected: oromagi

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Wait, why aren't we suspect of Oromagi, WF, and Pie? If they went on the mission and it failed, it means one of them drew the fail card.
They didn’t tho…
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@RationalMadman
Supa hadn't even realised he should be 100% against the team, he just saw them and went 'why aren't we suspecting them' then revealed his main focus was on me being scummy.

This is very towny thought process.

Or it’s a “I have no idea what’s going on” thought process
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Have you considered an RM/Supa team?

RM goes after Supa for making a filler statement that was clearly founded on ignorance in R1. Here he does the same thing R2, but it’s suddenly a Resistance move rather than ignorance.

Supa didn’t even know who went on the mission and that spies can sabotage, which is literally the purpose of the game. Is Supa that ignorant that he doesn’t know what’s going on. As a Spy he has to be against this Mission because all 3 of us would be Resistance. On R3 it would be us 3 and either Earth/RM. If it’s Spy we know it’s either RM or Earth and we essentially win.

I think you and I should definitely be on the Mission
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Possible teams:

RM/Earth
RM/Pie
RM/Oro
RM/WF
RM/Supa

Earth/Pie
Earth/Oro
Earth/WF
Earth/Supa
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Who do you want on the mission: Supa or Oro.

And why?
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I'll have to think on that. I'll admit I am kinda lazy, but I need to look back on who RM wanted to be on his team.
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Mission: Jailbreak
Mission Leader: ILikePie5
Mission team: ILikePie5, Oromagi, and Whiteflame

Yes votes: oromagi (1/3)
No votes: RationalMadman, whiteflame, and Earth (3/3)
Not voting: SupaDudz

The mission proposal was rejected.
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You are the new mission leader for this mission. Please submit your team proposal within 24 hours.
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You are the new mission leader for this mission. Please submit your team proposal within 24 hours.
If I had been in Pie's position I would have selected the same team but since that's been rejected I will go with

Oromagi
ILikePie5
Supadudz

the only reason to prefer pie over WF is pretty subjective- WF was a little defensive with RM in round1 and the last time I saw him act defensively he was scum in a game of Mafia.  Furthermore, Pie hasnot  lol'd once which is generally a leading indicator of non-scuminess when it comes to Pie.
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@ILikePie5
Supa didn’t even know who went on the mission and that spies can sabotage, which is literally the purpose of the game.
that was afterwards.
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Ask Earth to explain why he voted no, btw.
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Mission: Jailbreak
Mission Leader: oromagi
Mission team: ILikePie5, oromagi, and SupaDudz

Yes votes: None yet (0/3)
No votes: None yet (0/3)
Not voting: Everyone

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@ILikePie5
Supa doesn't seem clueless day 1, he seems lazy. Now after thinking spies can't sab and it's just an addon, again he seems lazy. I will go with what you say the team should be. I believe you are town.
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Town/resistance same thing for me, to me 'townread' is easier to type than 'resistanceread' and 'resread' is weird
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Everybody pls tell about your bio PM
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Everybody pls tell about your bio PM
Alright:

  • Only child in a minor aristocratic family
  • Inherited estate at age of 21, but lost much of it due to economic issues, losing the rest to my uncle in a legal battle
  • Fled provinces to avoid assassination attempt by said uncle
  • Worked for governor of southern province until they were arrested for conspiracy against the Hegemony of Odigos
  • Fled again for being implicated in that plot
  • Currently a wanted fugitive who joined a secret anti-government movement among southern nobility, which merged with the Alliance of New Hope in 887.

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lots of fleeing, also an orphan and the opposite side began to stamp you out...

hmm...

you worked for governor as what?
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Doesn’t say. I left out that I worked for him from 879 to 884, but apart from that, the details of my employment aren’t evident.
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I will let others speak of their bios before judging how significant certain differences are.

I refuse to believe it's totally superficial flavouring.

Mine definitely told the job I had where yours just said who you worked for, however Idk if that's significant or not.

You also began wealthier whereas my bio was bottom of the food chain, no inheritance etc.
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Affiliation: Resistance

Date of Birth: 07/28/854

Bio:

  • Born of young parent on a ship bound for Western Continent.
  • Denied refugee status and forced ot Mesaia archipeligo.
  • Mom killed by Hegemony bomb 858
  • Dad attempted to assasinate Governor, now in labor camp
    • Grew up in orphanage until 867.
  • Moved to mainland in 874.
  • SKilled in computers
    • Hacked government database to learn dad killed in prision
    • Now wanted fugitive for hacking
  • Aided anti-Gov groups 879-886
  • Helped found Alliance of New Hope 886.

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@oromagi
 Mesaia archipeligo is a real place that has nothing to do with what seems to be an imaginary war that WF and my bios described.

Your specifies your job during your criminal activities though.