USA - A Backsliding Democracy

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I disagree that we should let domestic terrorists vote. 
Who defines what qualifies as domestic terror?

That's why you can't regulate it this way. One government might think anyone who traffics in conspiracy theories on the internet represents a direct enough threat to democracy to ban that person from voting. One government might think anyone who is convicted of a domestic terror offense...but one man's domestic terrorist is another man's freedom fighter, right? Plus you'd have to be exceptionally sure that the person actually committed the exact offense of which they were convicted, otherwise you're stripping them of their civil rights without absolute certitude, which is unrealistic. And as Double R said, it's a vanishingly small population, so regulating that seems overblown. 
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The difference between us when it comes to domestic terrorists is that I believe in the principal, you don’t. 

Yes, it's not a cross I wish to die on. Domestic terrorists shouldn't own guns, should be restricted from inciting domestic riots, and shouldn't get to vote. All 3 of those rights should be regulated not just 2.
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I’m talking about the basic principals of democracy, and all you come back with is “I don’t think domestic terrorists should vote”.

Domestic terrorism accounts for a whopping 100 or so arrests per year, but let’s focus on that instead of the country.

For the third time…

If you are going to respond to anything I have to say in this post respond to this; the way we deal with ignorance and/or malice within our voting population is to drown out those individuals with educated or well intentioned voters. And if that doesn’t work because the population at large is ignorant or malicious enough to put “the wrong” politician in office then we get the government we deserve. We are all subject to the same laws and governed by the same authorities, therefore everyone gets a say in what that governing authority should look like.

That’s not rhetoric, that’s not left wing talking points, that’s not propaganda, it’s the most basic idea of democracy.
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I’m talking about the basic principals of democracy, and all you come back with is...
I know right? That we shouldn't have ANYTHING unregulated should come as a shock, I guess.

Domestic terrorism accounts for a whopping 100 or so arrests per year,
So why defend them? 100 votes being nullified won't matter, right?

Domestic terrorists shouldn't own guns, should be restricted from inciting domestic riots, and shouldn't get to vote. All 3 of those rights should be regulated not just 2.
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I know right? That we shouldn't have ANYTHING unregulated should come as a shock, I guess.
If this is the limit of your bandwidth it’s no wonder we can’t get past this point. I don’t believe it is, I just don’t think anything being that is convenient for you, but you are free to handle reality however you wish.

So why defend them? 100 votes being nullified won't matter, right?
I’m not defending them, I’m defending you, and me, and everyone. That’s the whole point of defending rights.

I’ve made this point repeatedly, so if you don’t understand it by now then you simply choose not to, so I’ll say it again one note time just for the hell of it…

There is no valid and logically consistent argument to justify talking voting rights away from any segment of the population, aside from those who cannot make their own decisions. Why? Because either one of two things will always be true:

A) the segment is too small to be significant, in which case you violate the most basic principal of democracy for nothing

B) the segment is large enough to be significant, in which case you no longer have a real democracy

This isn’t complicated GP, unless you want it to be.
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Ok, let me try asking like this… what form of government would take power of US democracy falls?
I'd presume Communism if the U.S. sponsors are done with the pretense.
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I’m defending you, and me, and everyone

I'm not a domestic terrorist.
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A) the segment is too small to be significant, in which case you violate the most basic principal of democracy for nothing.
I don't care how small it is. Domestic terrorists shouldn't be given the privilege or the opportunity to nullify the votes of law-abiding Americans. That's my principle.

Democracy is worthless in a lawless nation governed by law breakers.
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I'm very ignorant of history and law, and this information is from Wikipedia,
But,

"As the Civil War was still raging, no electoral votes were counted from any of the eleven southern states that had joined the Confederate States of America.[1] Lincoln's re-election ensured that he would preside over the successful conclusion of the Civil War."

It makes sense that a person breaking the law as it is currently understood by one side, not be able to vote during an election.
Same would apply to a terrorist, I imagine.
Many states, though not 'all I think, have laws that limit or cease individuals right to vote, during prison time, and parole.
Which again, makes sense,
As their suitability is being assessed.
Same reasoning people use for assessing individuals before selling them various items of potential harm.

"Voting restrictions on former Confederates varied by state during the rest of the Reconstruction era. Few were disenfranchised in Georgia, Texas, Florida, North Carolina, and South Carolina. Alabama and Arkansas banned only those ineligible to hold office under the Fourteenth Amendment. Louisiana banned newspaper editors and religious ministers who had supported secession or anybody who had voted for the secession ordinance but allowed them to vote if they took an oath for Radical Reconstruction, a much more lenient avowal than that required by the Ironclad Oath.[14] In states with disenfranchisement, the maximum was 10–20% of otherwise-eligible white voters; most states had much smaller proportions disenfranchised.[15] In the South, the most support for the Ironclad Oath came from white Republicans from the Hill Counties, where they needed it to gain local majorities.[16]"

I imagine countries that experience civil war, might see equal voting rights, if it comes back together on equal peace treaty terms,
But South lost.

I'd suppose it 'is a concern, that groups might be focused on, their right to vote removed,
Jews in WW2 Germany for instance,
Or Communists during the Cold War,
But 'active terrorists, criminals, even 'past terrorists and criminals, would be a concern, I'd think.

There's a difference between refusing someone equal rights for being a 'bit different from you,
And an individual who's a proven past or active threat.
Though. . . And I hate to be Devil's Advocate, to certain people's mind, even those people a 'bit different, 'are an active threat.
And what's more, according to their values, truly 'are an active threat.
Though not everyone 'holds said people's minds.

Also,