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@mustardness
You could have saved yourself some time and energy by simply saying you believe in gibberish.
What do you believe and why?
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@mustardness
Why do you believe that? This is what do you believe and why .
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@drafterman
Rational, logical common sense or evidence to back your claims? No? I didnt think so.You could have saved yourself some time and energy by simply saying you believe in gibberish.
When you have anything of significance to offer us, please share. Your hot air fingertips are a resultant of mental misconstructions.
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@secularmerlin
Why do I believe what? Your mind games are a resultant of mental misconstructions.Why do you believe that? This is what do you believe and why .
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@mustardness
Why do you believe fuller has any more authority than anyone else? Was that not clear?
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@secularmerlin
Why do you believe fuller has any more authority than anyone else? Was that not clear?
Now your making false projections. Is this typical for you? Please stick to what I stated not your insignificant ring around the rosy mind games of false projections. Please.
Pretty please.
Please with blue bonnet on it.
I believe Fuller has more authority and concepts involving on more issues/topisc than Secular Martin does
This is what you believe. Why do you believe It? Or just don't worry about it. If I'm playing mind games the best thing to do would be to just ignore me and if we can't understand one another I encourage you to do just that.
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@secularmerlin
I believe that Secular Martin prefers silly mind games over any significant intellectual discourse.message #1: I always find that a good place to start is finding out what you believe.
Ask me again and I will tell you the same.
Has Secular Martin ever had a cosmic thought? Does SM even know what cosmic means?
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@mustardness
Ok ebuc have a nice day let me know if you want to actually talk.
Pineapples on Pizza?!? Whats wrong with you guys? (although I don't get sauce on mine so who am I to talk?)
Anyways, I believe that there is "something" out there, What? I have no idea
I have heard good arguments for God to be some sort of "Alien" (for lack of a better word) and it seems "god-like" because of how miniscule our abilities are compared to that of a potential advanced alien species.
Personally, I believe that the truth is unknowable at our (human) current stage of development, so to treat others best and hoping, but not expecting, reciprocation is what works for me
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@ravensjt
Personally, I believe that the truth is unknowable at our (human) current stage of development, so to treat others best and hoping, but not expecting, reciprocation is what works for me
And you believe this because it has utility for you in living as the best possible you?
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@secularmerlin
And you believe this because it has utility for you in living as the best possible you?
I believe that my childhood rearing taught me to think outside of myself....
IDK if thats whats best possible for myself as much as it's whats best for society tbt.
Certain things for me just seem like the "right" thing to do.
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@ravensjt
Do you not consider doing the "right" thing and doing things that benefit society as being your best you?
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@secularmerlin
Do you not consider doing the "right" thing and doing things that benefit society as being your best you?
Not always, for example, I have taken (and now teach martial arts) When it comes to the benefit of myself (and my family) I could just get a gun.
But I don't see their benefit to Society (In the U.S.) for personal use (another debatable topic I know).
So I feel it's right for Society that I don't own a personal gun yet I'm not sure if it's best for me personally.
I'm at work and my time is short however that's an example off the top of my head
I believe in The Truth.
Not my conception of The Truth. Not my understanding of The Truth. Not what I believe about The Truth, but The Truth.
I believe that this is the highest good, the source of all things, unchanging and eternal. The Truth is my God, and indeed everyone's God whether they acknowledge God as being so or not.
My life here in this world is my relationship with The Truth. Love The Truth with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength. Show charity and love towards others. To love others is to bring them into knowing relationship with The Truth, forgiving offenses with the patience of a father toward a child as God is my father and I am a child of God, and this is the example I was shown. Forgiven of my sins against The Truth, wicked as I am, this is how I must treat others; As one forgiven their debt, I must not go forward and break the knees of those who owe me.
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@Mopac
Are you implying that truth is an entity with a conciousness of some kind?
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@Mopac
That is aka a cosmic absolute truth.unchanging and eternal.
Ex there can only exist five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.
The only alternative is relative truth
Ex the sky is blue.
Are these diametric opposites or existent at 90 degrees { precession } to each other?
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@secularmerlin
All consciousness surely comes from God. Consciousness could not exist apart from God.
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@mustardness
If it is true that "there can only exist five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.", this is because of The Truth. I wouldn't call this The Truth because the Truth is The Truth. It Is What It Is.
The Truth is One
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@Mopac
More bible thumper irrationality is circlular, looping and meaningless dribble or so I believe.That is not very charitable of you.
Please try to use some kind of rational, logical common sense.
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@Mopac
All consciousness surely comes from God. Consciousness could not exist apart from God.
And how have you determined that?
I believe that the external world is an illusion. The things not seen, like math, logic, and consciousnes, are the only things that aren't a construct of information-processing. Everything that can known to us through the senses is an assimilation of mental properties that don't actually exist other than in our minds. We all derived from a fundamentally existent consciousness.
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@Fallaneze
And why do you believe this?
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@secularmerlin
Because if consciousness exists, it must be reality. If reality exists, their must be ultimate reality. The Ultimate Reality is God.
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@mustardness
Without showing me charity, you will simply be hammering at me, name calling at me, and rebuking me for something you don't understand.
Without showing me charity, you have shown that you have judged me or my position without actually taking the tims to understand it. Beside that, I am going to see this and not reappect your rebuke as legitmate.
Without charity, all we have is a shouting match between you and brick wall.
So quit assuming I am up to no good. It is my sincere desire to edify, not mystify.
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@Mopac
Because if consciousness exists, it must be reality. If reality exists, their must be ultimate reality. The Ultimate Reality is God.
This addresses what you believe but not why. Why must this "ultimate reality" be any god let alone your god? As a bonus you might tell me which god we are discussing if you have a specific god concept in mind.
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@secularmerlin
The Ultimate Ultimate is my God, your God.
It means exactly what it means.
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@Mopac
But why do you believe that? This is what you believe and why. Also I have no reason to believe in any god(s) so I'm not sure we can refer to this hypothetical entity as my god.
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@secularmerlin
If you do something, it is true that you did that something, so how can you do anything to undermine the authority of The Truth?
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@Mopac
I understand that you believe that but you still haven't explained why. Why do you believe that reality, assuming reality exists at all, is anything other than what it seems?