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@Double_R
Ask the 20 percent of Biden voters that helped put Youngkin into office in Virginia about the BS.
Oh that's right...those are "Trump voters" lmao.
Tiki Torches.
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@Greyparrot
Ask the 20 percent of Biden voters that…
It was your statement, I’m asking you. To what BS are you referring?
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@Double_R
The BS of having a Blue state flip red over Jussie Smollet style race baiting.
Keep it up Brandon. 37 percenters love it.
Seriously? They couldn't find a white guy to hold a tiki torch, so they brought in a Black Actor?
Sad. But I guess he was good enough to fool Erik Swalwell.
Those ridiculous Black White Supremacists are all over the damn place like Clayton Bigsby on Netflix.
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@Greyparrot
Ah. So Virginia went red, which means we can put to the side the BS of baiting people based on race. Got it.
So let’s take a look at this notion.
The issue front and center in these elections was about the teaching of critical race theory in schools, which the republican candidate declared he would ban.
Except that critical race theory isn’t being taught in one single school anywhere in the state and his opponent has never expressed support for teaching it.
The most basic idea from which critical race theory is grounded is the idea that race is the most prevalent source of conflict in American life.
So to recap, the mere threat of teaching a course about race as a source of conflict in American life was so toxic that a private businessman was able to ride the fear and anger over it all the way to the governor’s mansion even though the class is not and has never been taught in schools ever before. If that doesn’t sound like baiting people over race I’m not sure what to tell you.
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@Greyparrot
Everything and everyone is racist. The question now is what isn't racist? Anyone or anything can be made racist simply by saying its racist. End of story. Tiki torches are racist because some fucktard said they were and now they are. The word racist has no meaning anymore as everything is racist. There is no need for the word anymore, everything and everyone is racist. Prove you are not. Saying you are not is not proof. Anyone can say they are not racist and anyone can label someone or something racist. You are a racist and just don't know it. Racism and the discussion of racism has been reduced to fucktard levels. Its minutes of your life wasted. I just wasted 4 minutes of my life just now.
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@sadolite
According to Erik Swalwell, even a Black man with a tiki torch can be a white supremacist.
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@Double_R
Except that critical race theory isn’t being taught...
Parents don't want Teachers indoctrinated in CRT anywhere near their kids. If the schools insist on indoctrinating all the teachers with CRT, the parents can insist their kids can be shielded from it. Parents don't need to be compelled by an authoritative state to expose their kids to racist teachers.
Most of the parents that don't want racist teachers are minorities, which shows you the monumental degree of just how out of touch the establishment elites are.
Virginia deserves to go red under the incompetent watch of those elites.
Parents don't want Teachers indoctrinated in CRT anywhere near their kids. If the schools insist on indoctrinating all the teachers with CRT, the parents can insist their kids can be shielded from it. Parents don't need to be compelled by an authoritative state to expose their kids to racist teachers.Most of the parents that don't want racist teachers are minorities, which shows you the monumental degree of just how out of touch the establishment elites are.Virginia deserves to go red under the incompetent watch of those elites.
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@Greyparrot
personally I am a Japanese kamikaze because I bum rushed a kid in third grade.
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@Greyparrot
Parents don't want Teachers indoctrinated in CRT anywhere near their kids.
So you agree with my point then.
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@Double_R
Sure. It's like saying child raping teachers don't expose a parent's child to anything bad. If CRT teachers are in the schools, then the schools are infested with CRT, there is no way around it. Unlike the 37 percenters, Virginians believe there are some things other than Trump that should not be tolerated.
Let's be clear here, this isn't really JUST about CRT. This is also about the tyrannical power of the teacher's union in bed with the authoritative Democrats.
People in Virginia voted for freedom from that tyranny. The 37 percenters are mostly too eaten up with Stockholm Syndrome to think there can be any other way.
Using another concept from a another society is how cultures merge and change. Can be for better or for worse, depending on what the concept in question is. Here, it's pretty harmless to enjoy the aesthetic of a lighting up a room with a tiki torch.
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@Greyparrot
Let's be clear here, this isn't really JUST about CRT.
It’s about a lot of things, but clearly at the center of everything is white grievance. Again, CRT is not being taught in any school in Virginia nor is there a serious push by anyone for it to be, yet this issue was so powerful that it was central to the republican winning the governorship. Why?
The response to this being so over the top is what makes it so telling. It isn’t just that your response to the purported issue is over the top, but that the further justification given for it makes it even worse.
You don’t just talking about banning CRT, but keeping any teacher who believes it away from your children (what that means or how anything remotely resembling that could ever be willed into reality no one knows). And you talk about tyranny as if it’s 1776 and not 2021. Losing an election is not tyranny. Disagreeing with your democratically elected government officials is not tyranny. School boards teaching classes you disagree with (if that were to actually happen) is not tyranny.
Such absurd characterizations and insinuations suggest there is more to this, just not something worth admitting.
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@Double_R
but clearly at the center of everything is white grievance.
Not really. Virginia flipped red mostly as a backlash against rich racist whites by working class minority Hispanics and blacks. You are manufacturing a ridiculous reason for why Virginia flipped red. I wouldn't call it redressing a racial grievance. I would call it an assertion of universal freedom and a rejection of pernicious race baiting (such as tiki-gate) for political power.
Such absurd characterizations and insinuations suggest there is more to this, just not something worth admitting.
There is absolutely nothing remotely absurd about a parent insisting a child should NEVER be exposed to a racist CRT teacher who fundamentally treats students on the basis of skin color, regardless of the justification. Teachers who are instructed to racially segregate their students as oppressors and victims based on skin color as if it was the 1950's but with the colors reversed.
Even Black parents know this is a shitty thing to teach their kids.
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@Double_R
The language found at this link, particularly the opening, is the problem people have. This looks more like prioritizing social activism rather than traditional education. The NEA content on "racial justice" is a great example of what is being practiced in schools. You can call it whatever you want, but it is the principles people are against - not the technical name of those principles. The whole "CRT isn't being taught in schools" thing is just a game of semantics, and I think you know that.
So even if it is true that CRT isn't being taught in schools (though that is highly debatable), there are many taxpaying parents who are strongly opposed to the principles that are being taught regarding race and racism in their schools.
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@ILikePie5
@bmdrocks21
We haven't seen this level of race baiting around this Virginia election since Tawana Brawley. Hiring Black white supremacists to hold tiki torches..... bold move Cotton.
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@Double_R
The issue front and center in these elections was about the teaching of critical race theory in schools, which the republican candidate declared he would ban.
Except that critical race theory isn’t being taught in one single school anywhere in the state and his opponent has never expressed support for teaching it.
The most basic idea from which critical race theory is grounded is the idea that race is the most prevalent source of conflict in American life.
So to recap, the mere threat of teaching a course about race as a source of conflict in American life was so toxic that a private businessman was able to ride the fear and anger over it all the way to the governor’s mansion even though the class is not and has never been taught in schools ever before. If that doesn’t sound like baiting people over race I’m not sure what to tell you.
This is the standard lefty rebuttal, and it is steeped in semantics. What many parents do not want is “anti-racism” (of the Ibram X. Kendi, Robin DeAngelo, Ta Nehasi Coates et al variety) taught to their children in lower school.
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@cristo71
I frankly don't think that racist parents are a good influence on their children.
That sounds like something Hitler would say to swell the ranks of the Hitler Youth.
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@RationalMadman
I frankly don't think that racist parents are a good influence on their children.
How trite. But I have been through this with you before, RM:
Who gets to define what racism is?
For that matter, who gets to define what “anti-racism” is?
Who/what/where is NOT racist?
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@cristo71
GP's trolling has really got pathetic, I genuinely cringe at it.
As for you, Cristo, I already answered all of it. It's ironic of you to use a term 'anti-racism' and deem it genuine if you don't know what it's anti.
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@RationalMadman
Not exactly— you answered the first out of three questions I posed— “what’s the definition of racism”— and it was, frankly, the easiest to answer of the three. And I posed my concerns about how your answer is not as simple as it seems. Hence, I ask slightly reworded questions now (except for the third, probably the trickiest and most unanswered one by anyone) none of which you have answered.
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@cristo71
cute. I'm not engaging in your bullshit. Anyone can 'define' something, if the rest of society doesn't agree with their bullshit definition that's where it comes to matter.
language is formed literally by groupthink, nothing defines anything other than the masses.
If the Oxford Dictionary says something means something but over 80% of people use it another way colloquially, that secondary way is actually superior.
So...
Also, please don't use the term 'anti-racist' if you don't even know what 'racist' or 'racism' mean, it just leaves you in a snake-eats-tail chase here as I'm simply gonna deflect your terrible attempts at trying to drive me insane answering an unanswerable question since nobody has the 'right to define a term' if everyone else disagrees with them, definitions need to be agreed on.
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@RationalMadman
Yep… that’s just as I thought. So, back to what many parents want:
Many parents don’t want their children being taught a definition of racism that leads them to conclude that they are either inherently racist or a hopeless, powerless victim of racism…
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@cristo71
cool, now I'll repeat what I said? is this just to spam?
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@RationalMadman
Well, I’ll answer the questions I posed, then:
According to far left academia (not that all of it is far left, but the vast majority which is):
Far left academia gets to define racism. Oh, and they get to modify that definition over time— usually to encompass more and more aspects of society as meeting that definition.
Far left academia gets to define “anti-racism.” “Anti-racism” is actually a far left academic term, so that makes sense. Only they know how to fight it, see. Listen only to them, and learn.
Ya know, no one in far left academia can cogently answer who/what/where is NOT racist… which is not surprising…
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@cristo71
I let you define 'anti-racism' which was different to what I thought it was and I still don't see how you have explained why you disagree that racist parents are negative influences on their children.
It's not trolling at all.
It's a matter of historical record that Hitler was a great and enthusiastic supporter of state indoctrinated youth with an emphasis on ideological racial indoctrination against the wishes of the biological parents.
History repeats.
Education in the Third Reich served to indoctrinate students with the National Socialist world view. Nazi scholars and educators glorified Nordic and other "Aryan" races, while denigrating Jews and other so-called inferior peoples as parasitic "bastard races" incapable of creating culture or civilization. After 1933, the Nazi regime purged the public school system of teachers deemed to be Jews or to be "politically unreliable." Most educators, however, remained in their posts and joined the National Socialist Teachers League. 97% of all public school teachers, some 300,000 persons, had joined the League by 1936. In fact, teachers joined the Nazi Party in greater numbers than any other profession.
It's a matter of historical, political, sociological and even scientific record that Hitler was a deep racist deadset on proving (even at the cost of scientific theory) that a racial mix he happened to dub the elite aryan race was superior to all others.
If you are suggesting he indoctrinated people against racism, you're making an asinine show of your integrity, let alone knowledge. You wanna stoop that low, go ahead.
Teaching children anything can be warped to be 'indoctrination' the term should only be used if what's being taught is inherently toxic for them to take as true.
I am suggesting we should never allow the state to define racial segregation policies like CRT and create a politicized indoctrinated youth of racist children.
We already know what happens when we ignore tyrants that use race to gain unlimited political power.