How to overturn Roe v. Wade

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Misinterpretation once again Tarik.

Assumptions are data.

Therefore morality is assumptive data.



And I won't hold my breath in anticipation of you opening up.

I'm just expecting more of the same.


All good mental exercise.
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Assumptions are data.
On the contrary, if an assumption is untrue then that’s misinformation and misinformation is not data in fact it’s the opposite.

I'm just expecting more of the same.
Right back at ya because you haven’t been forthcoming at all throughout this discussion, all you’ve done is give me the run around trying to figure you out and it’s all confusing nonsense.
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Data is data Tarik.

Misinformation is simply reproduced misinformed data.


And as for running around.

Who's in the lead?
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Misinformation is simply reproduced misinformed data.
…For arguments sake, if your not going to make the distinction between data clear (which you haven’t yet you accuse me of not opening up) then the proper assumption is to assume it’s all informed and not misinformed and there’s a huge fundamental difference between those two things, you may or may not like semantics but you’re practically begging for it in all your responses.
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Data is data Tarik.

Misinformation is information. (Check your dictionary).

Do you have any information, other than semantics, to impart.

Doesn't matter if it's misinformation.

All information can be analysed and responded to.

Though repetition can become tedious.
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Doesn't matter if it's misinformation.
That’s where your wrong it definitely matters, it all matters.

Do you have any information, other than semantics, to impart.
I don’t think any other information would be of use if we can’t agree on simple semantics.

Though repetition can become tedious.
Yet you insist on doing so 🤷🏾‍♂️.

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That's where your wrong it definitely matters, it all matters.

OK......So explain what it all is that matters......And why.

Open up.
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OK......So explain what it all is that matters......And why.
Maybe you should open up and display what you mean in terms of data, because I’m assuming true rather then false but by the looks of it it all seems the same to you when it’s not.

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What are you afraid of Tarik?


My views on human process and function have been made quite clear, countless times.

So now, let's hear it from you.


Or is the semantics game really all that you are interested in?
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My views on human process and function have been made quite clear, countless times.
If that were true the semantic game wouldn’t be in motion.

Misinformation is information. (Check your dictionary).
I suggest you check yours.
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I already checked mine before I asked you to check yours.
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I already checked mine before I asked you to check yours.
It’s all hearsay unless you cite it.
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“Misinformation is false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive.”
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@Tarik
See above.

Ramshutu obviously uses the same online dictionary.
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The keywords false and inaccurate is what separates information from misinformation, my argument still stands.
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@Tarik
Hmmm.

If you read the sentence properly Tarik.

You will see that the "keywords", link misinformation and information.

Misinformation is (false or inaccurate) information.


In fact, you're imparting information, but deliberately trying to deceive me with misinformation.
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You will see that the "keywords", link misinformation and information.
Then why isn’t those same keywords used in the definition of information? Because those keywords is a distinction not a link.
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You see what he’s doing here? 

The dictionary clearly and explicitly defines misinformation as a type of information. It’s clear and unambiguous. 

He’s now arguing that because the definition draws a distinction - they must be different things. Apparently he forgot the concept of categorization. 

Historical fiction is a type of fiction.
Mammals are a type of vertebrate.
Humans are a type of mammal.

He seems to be arguing that because there is a distinction between information and misinformation - they can’t be the same thing.

But that is clearly ridiculous: as just because there is a distinction between mammals and vertebrates does not make mammals not a type of verterbrate.






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@Tarik
See above.

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See above.
In case you didn’t know I blocked the user above, so unless you want this discussion to continue going forward I suggest it remain between us meaning you express your own thoughts rather than relying on a middleman (that I blocked) to argue for you if not you will receive the same end result that they did.
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Well the simple fact is,  the above user is of the same opinion as me.

We don't argue for each other Tarik....We just agree.
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Well the simple fact is,  the above user is of the same opinion as me.
Except we’re not arguing opinions we’re arguing facts, and whether or not misinformation is classified as information is besides the point, the point is “information” is implied to be true and if it were false it would be uttered as such hence why I brought up misinformation which you argued makes no difference but that’s just ignorance because there’s a huge fundamental difference between true and false.
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@Tarik
Information is not implied to be true at all.

Information can be accurately representative of something, or inaccurate, or even complete nonsense.


Therefore it might be implied that mis-informed information, is designed to deceive, or confuse, or perhaps even amuse.


Nonetheless, all acquired and stored data and subsequent data transfer, deals with information, irrespective of quality.


And although obviously relative to the quality of information. True and false, are only words/expressions we can use to categorize other information.
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Information can be accurately representative of something, or inaccurate, or even complete nonsense.
But usually that inaccuracy is classified as misinformation to avoid confusion.
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Historical fiction is a type of fiction.
Mammals are a type of vertebrate.
Humans are a type of mammal.
Misinformation is a type of information.


As well as deliberately misquoting you earlier; Tarik is trying to ignore the key error in his argument. I don’t know what more you can do.

Basic understanding of what information is agrees with you.
The dictionary agrees with you.
Objective forms of classification agrees with you.


The only way he is able to offer an argument is by ignoring all of your rebuttals, and clinging to the pretext that has already been refuted: which appears par for the course, as this is what he has been doing throughout. 


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I'm not confused.

Are you confused?
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 For sure.

From day one, my discussions with Tarik have always been the same.

I sometimes think that they have an underlying ideological or spiritual agenda, but nothing like is ever forthcoming.

Nonetheless, it's all just a compositional exercise for me....Keeping the grey matter ticking as it were.


Their last statement;  #264.....Is something of a climb down though.
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Are you confused?
By you? Yes, you don’t specify what you mean in regards to the validity of data, so I just assumed it was all correct.

I sometimes think that they have an underlying ideological or spiritual agenda, but nothing like is ever forthcoming.
How about you be forthcoming and specify what you mean in terms of data.

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Ha Ha...Same old then?

I have already specified. Probably many times.

Data is simply accumulated information. (Including misinformation)

In humans, derived through sensory input, stored in the brain and variously analysed and output.


Though just for fun, I will complicate things by saying that inherent or transferred information, is also operational data.

But obviously somewhat different to the above, in terms of acquisition, storage and application.
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Though just for fun, I will complicate things
I’ve always had a feeling you were a troll but this is the utmost confirmation, your next post better be something of significance otherwise you’ll be blocked like your boyfriend.