How to overturn Roe v. Wade

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It appears you’re trying to argue that morality can be changed by personal preference
No, I exposed your hypocrisy in post #174 you tried to clarify your hypocrisy but all you ended up doing was telling more falsehoods that I mentioned in post #178.
Oh stop the nonsense lol; that’s a big fat lie #154,you’ve just been  dishonestly quote mining #155

I’m arguing that morality isn’t subject to whim: you went from criticizing subjective morality to being subjective to personal preference to now trying to argue that I am wrong because morality is actually subject to personal preference… it’s hilarious you’re refuting your own position #156




personal preference is sort of a side note.
It’s splitting hairs because it takes away from the larger point, which is you can’t criticize me for personal preference when that’s included (according to you) in morality that you don’t keep that same energy for, it’s hypocritical whether that be the core or a side note it’s still included period.
Good god, really? You are making me explain this to you? You’re being a complete cretin #157.

I criticized your argument because you were using your own personal preference to argue one thing made sense over another; you’re criticizing me, because one aspect of subjective morality involves personal preference; other than the two things using the same words; they are completely different things being used in completely different contexts for completely different reasons… I mean come on lol if I have to explain this to you, I’m impressed That you haven’t choked in your phone.


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you’re refuting your own position #156
You said all this already, I already explained why I’m not.

they are completely different things being used in completely different contexts for completely different reasons
No personal preference is just that personal preference there is no difference.
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@Tarik
you’re refuting your own position #156
You said all this already, I already explained why I’m not.
Black knighting. Massive lie: #158 You just repeated your assertion.

It’s pretty simple: If morality isn’t subject to personal preference - the claim you’re arguing against is correct.  If not,  morality is subjective by your definition. 

You’re trying to argue the second - and you know it: which is why you’ve chopped that part out twice. 

they are completely different things being used in completely different contexts for completely different reasons
No personal preference is just that personal preference there is no difference.
I just explained why your argument is dumb #159. Refer to my previous post.

Your argument is like calling me a hypocrite for pointing out you’re using a strawman: because I used wikipedia - which contains an articles on strawman.

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You’re trying to argue the second - and you know it: which is why you’ve chopped that part out twice. 
I don’t even know what your talking about at this point (which was probably your goal considering you have no other play here).

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Let me refresh you:

It appears you’re trying to argue that morality can be changed by personal preference - to refute my position that it can’t - but that which would make it subjective your definition a few posts ago.

Do you think what we find moral or not can be changed on a whim of personal preference?

If yes: you’ve basically conceded you’re entire argument, as you’re conceding morality is subjective, and a product of personal choice not higher authority

If no: the point you’re arguing against stands.

I’m arguing that morality isn’t subject to whim: you went from criticizing subjective morality to being subjective to personal preference to now trying to argue that I am wrong because morality is actually subject to personal preference… it’s hilarious you’re refuting your own position #156

It’s pretty simple: If morality isn’t subject to personal preference - the claim you’re arguing against is correct.  If not,  morality is subjective by your definition.

You’re trying to argue the second - and you know it: which is why you’ve chopped that part out twice.

I’ve explained it three times:

You’re so desperate to prove me wrong; you accidentally refuted your own position.

Let me try and explain it a fourth time; though I don’t know why I bother because you just ignore it and assert i’m wrong.

You: subjective morality means x is true.

Me: no it doesn’t, x is false.

You: but look at y That shows x is true.

Oops!









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@Ramshutu
you accidentally refuted your own position.
Your confusing me with you (see #174) you refuted yourself.

Your argument is like calling me a hypocrite for pointing out you’re using a strawman: because I used wikipedia - which contains an articles on strawman.
Except it’s not, you don’t keep the same energy for personal preference that you keep for straw man, that’s why your a hypocrite.

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Your confusing me with you (see #174) you refuted yourself.
No; because that was a grotesque straw man #170 you manufactured by dishonestly quoting me out of context #171. Which you appear not be contesting any more; because you can’t.

You completely forgot what we were arguing, and ended up trying to refute my argument that morality isn’t changed in a whim - by arguing that morality can be changed in a whim… refuting yourself.

This is hilarious; I am unsurprised you’re refusing to even acknowledge the argument three times how #172; because frankly I am embarrassed for you.
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dishonestly quoting me out of context
Me paraphrasing to emphasize a greater point isn’t equivalent to missing context, and its interesting how you keep saying I’m quoting you out of context yet you don’t inform me of what context is missing 🤔.
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@Tarik
Me paraphrasing to emphasize a greater point isn’t equivalent to missing context,
You weren’t paraphrasing you were lying #173.

and its interesting how you keep saying I’m quoting you out of context yet you don’t inform me of what context is missing 🤔.
So you are telling me that someone in an argument needs to specifically offer justification and examples of all their claims and statements? 

 


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You weren’t paraphrasing you were lying #173.
No your lying, I literally copied and pasted those contradicting words.

So you are telling me that someone in an argument needs to specifically offer justification and examples of all their claims and statements?
They do if they’re accusing the person they’re arguing with that they’re quoting them out of context, oh wait you are so prey tell what context am I missing?
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No your lying, I literally copied and pasted those contradicting words.
Parroting #184

So you are telling me that someone in an argument needs to specifically offer justification and examples of all their claims and statements?
They do if they’re accusing the person they’re arguing with that they’re quoting them out of context, oh wait you are so prey tell what context am I missing?
Covered in 176. Obviously you ignored it, as you are incapable of engaging in good faith #185

your moral decisions are not youe choice;
our moral standard is not something we change on whim, we cannot simply decide to think murder is okay tommorow.

But morality isn’t consistent… it keeps changing Over time and from society to society. … try to keep up…
The bold parts are the parts you quoted: note that they are in the middle of sentences that go on to say more things. This contest makes it clear I’m talking about two separate things - Clear and plain as day, you lying, dishonest, quote mining, cretin #186.


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Covered in 176. Obviously you ignored it, as you are incapable of engaging in good faith #185
Refuted 176 with 177 demonstrating my good faith, you didn’t show good faith when you lied in 176 and took my exposing of your lie as refuting my argument (although I wasn’t presenting an argument, just trying to understand yours).

The bold parts are the parts you quoted: note that they are in the middle of sentences that go on to say more things. Clear and plain as day, you lying, dishonest, quote mining, cretin #186.
More things that don’t change the meaning of the quote I quoted, LIAR #187 lol.

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@Tarik
your moral decisions are not youe choice; 
our moral standard is not something we change on whim, we cannot simply decide to think murder is okay tommorow.

But morality isn’t consistent… it keeps changing Over time and from society to society. … try to keep up…
Parroting #187.

Also Nope - sorry you don’t get to dodge this one. The bold parts are where you deliberately quoted me out of context Clear and plain as day, you lying, dishonest, quote mining, cretin #187.

You have not contested it, in fact - I will concede everything I have said in this thread, if you provide a single quote from one of your posts after #176 where you have provides a justification of why your original quote was an accurate representation of my argument..


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pointless responding anymore it wont go anywhere.
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@Ramshutu
I will concede everything I have said in this thread, if you provide a single quote from one of your posts after #176 where you have provides a justification of why your original quote was an accurate representation of my argument..
I don’t care what you do or don’t concede, I know what you said and I know what what you said means period.
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pointless responding anymore it wont go anywhere.
At this point I’m replying out of a combination of morbid curiosity as to how far he will go; and interest to see whether I can find get him to implode.

I’m the type of guy who tries to see whether he can get telesales people who are unable to hang up to hang up.
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I will concede everything I have said in this thread, if you provide a single quote from one of your posts after #176 where you have provides a justification of why your original quote was an accurate representation of my argument..
don’t care what you do or don’t concede, I know what you said and I know what what you said means period.

You said:

“Refuted 176 with 177 demonstrating my good faith”

I am literally going to concede this entire thread.

I will also pay $100 dollars to a charity of your choice.

You can PM me something for me to post In this thread, and I will promise to post itz

All you have to do is provide a single quote from one of your posts after #176 where you have provided a justification of why your original quote was an accurate representation of my argument

You literally just said you had refuted it.

Quote where you “refuted it”

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My mistake (you’ve made plenty throughout this discussion and wrote them off as splitting hairs, at least I show accountability/good faith) I meant 178, something tells me you wouldn’t have made that bet had I said 178. PETTINESS #188
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My mistake (you’ve made plenty throughout this discussion and wrote them off as splitting hairs, at least I show accountability/good faith) I meant 178, something tells me you wouldn’t have made that bet had I said 178.
So you’re agreeing that you haven’t, at any point, provided an argument or justification of why your quote was definitely valid and in context?
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So you’re agreeing that you haven’t, at any point, provided an argument or justification of why your quote was definitely valid and in context?
If you need to reread post #198 go right ahead, I assure you I made no mistakes with that one.



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If you need to reread post #198 go right ahead, I assure you I made no mistakes with that one.
I am trying to confirm with you - that you haven’t, at any point, provided any justification of why you’re quotes were valid and in the correct context…

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That’s a stupid confirmation to ask, why would I quote it if I didn’t believe it was justifiable?

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@Tarik
That’s a stupid confirmation to ask, why would I quote it if I didn’t believe it was justifiable?
I told you exactly why and how the quote was out of context. You said you had refuted it - and are now saying you were in error.

I’m just confirming that you are agreeing that you did not provide any refutation to my point, right? No rebuttal, no challenge; I didn’t miss anything.
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I told you exactly why and how the quote was out of context
Why? Because of this

go on to say more things
I already told you

More things that don’t change the meaning of the quote I quoted, LIAR #187 lol.
So if the remainder of this discussion is us just referencing things we’ve said already then prey tell what’s the fun in that other than you trying to be annoying and throw me off my game.
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@Tarik
So if the remainder of this discussion is us just referencing things we’ve said
And you’re back to the lies….

I will pay $100 to a charity of your choice, $200 to you personally; I will never reply to you again, change my about status to “Tariks Bitch” and completely concede everything said so far: if you can quote the post where you take the two quotes in their full context and provide a justification of how these quotes, in their full context  still contradict each other.
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I will pay $100 to a charity of your choice, $200 to you personally; I will never reply to you again, change my about status to “Tariks Bitch” and completely concede everything said so far
I think I made it abundantly clear that I don’t care what you do in terms of that.
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I think I made it abundantly clear that I don’t care what you do in terms of that.
It’s literally free money. You don’t have to do ANYTHING other than to post the justification you seem to be implying you made:

I will pay $100 to a charity of your choice, $200 to you personally; I will never reply to you again, change my about status to “Tariks Bitch” and completely concede everything said so far: if you can quote the post where you take the two quotes in their full context and provide a justification of how these quotes, in their full context  still contradict each other.

For what possible reason would you not be interested in $100 for charity, or $200? I’m not asking you to compete in a challenge - simply to post the justification you appear to have implied you have given 
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For what possible reason would you not be interested in $100 for charity, or $200? I’m not asking you to compete in a challenge - simply to post the justification you appear to have implied you have given 
Do you not understand English?
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For what possible reason would you not be interested in $100 for charity, or $200? I’m not asking you to compete in a challenge - simply to post the justification you appear to have implied you have given 
Do you not understand English?
Yes, do you?

You get Free money - your favourite charity gets free money  -  I leave you alone - just for you quoting what you suggested that you had already written?

The simplest easiest thing in the world - no extra effort, no work - just go back, copy, paste, quote the post where you take the two quotes in their full context and provide a justification of how these quotes, in their full context  still contradict each other. 

In fact, the simplest and most obvious reason you have for refusing $300 - is because the quote doesn’t actually exist.




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Yes
Well I can’t really tell because I’m truly starting to question your integrity throughout this discussion and I’ve had it up to here speculating so I’m just gonna say this, if you don’t say something of substance in your next post you will be blocked, the choice is yours.