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@zedvictor4
not true
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@Dr.Franklin
When Columbus "set foot"....The Americas weren't even a continent, let alone the America's.
And notwithstanding that Northern regions were already inhabited by Northern Europeans.
The continent was eventually named for someone different....Columbus being temporarily forgotten.
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@zedvictor4
once again there is Columbus, America-Columbia, a symbol of America-and a recognition of Italian achievement
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@Dr.Franklin
Slightly wrong again Doc.
As Italy didn't exist as a unified State until 1815.
Columbus was actually from the Republic of Genoa.
And his voyages were sponsored by the Spanish.
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@zedvictor4
the "italian" identity existed in the 15th century
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@Dr.Franklin
If you like Doc.
What's happy about a made up doom and gloom narrative?
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@zedvictor4
it was mostly regional identity but its foolish to think that "italians" didnt exist then
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@Dr.Franklin
Sorry Doc but:
Italian is a label attached to people who were born within the Nation State of Italy.....Since 1815
Columbus was labelled as Genoan......Some 300 or so years before 1815.......Italians didn't exist then Doc.
And anyway, your overlooking the fact that Columbus was actually working for the Spanish.
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@zedvictor4
what language did he speak?
Columbus’ strong ties to Portugal have led many to believe he was born there, not in Genoa. Some historians have argued that his marriage into a noble Portuguese family would have been unlikely had he been an unknown (and yet-unproven) foreigner. In 2012, Fernando Branco, an engineering professor at the University of Lisbon, published a book that argued that Columbus was actually Portuguese-born and his real name was Pedro Ataíde. Ataíde, the illegitimate child of a Portuguese lord, was presumed to have died in a naval battle in 1476. But Branco and a number of Portuguese historians believe that he actually survived, and to avoid persecution for his family’s possible treasonous opposition to the Portuguese crown, changed his name to Culon, after a French sailor he served with, embarking on a new life with a new identity.
Columbus died of severe arthritis at the age of 54.
Columbus spoke Latin, Portuguese, and Spanish.
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@Dr.Franklin
What language do you speak Doc?
Based upon such criteria, perhaps I should regard you as my English brother.
Though see FLRW above, for more clarification on the subject of Columbus's language and national identity.
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@zedvictor4
there was italian identity, this is a fact
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@Dr.Franklin
Fair enough Doc.
Top of the morning to ya.