Nigeria is racist and Black supremacist

idk know what this thread is becoming at this point lol

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The OP did

I've been to Nigeria several times, but I care about the logic in the argument. Mesmer, in this particular case, is correct. The logic that says American whites are racist because they hold all the power, applies equally well to the blacks in Nigeria.

The lack of homosexuals in positions of power was a supporting argument for claims of discrimination, not the argument itself. The argument itself was the litany of examples that every person who lived through the 90’s or before saw for themselves in addition to the litany of well documented examples of discrimination nationwide. It wasn’t exactly a secret.

The exact same things are true for Asians in Nigeria. You easily see it for homosexuals in America, but not for ethnic Chinese in Nigeria. Why?

I don’t know anything about Nigerian politics or it’s racial history so perhaps you can enlighten me… did blacks in Nigeria enslave the white population for 400 years, then free them into a society with no education, no resources to care for themselves and no compensation for the work they did to build the country’s wealth, then spend the next 100 or so years stopping them from voting, owning businesses, and buying their own homes, then suddenly and finally change the rules to make them facially neutral even though by that time the black population already controlled everything?

No. But is your point that discrimination, racism, and bigotry cannot exist absent that history? No one from 400 years ago is alive today. No one alive today can be blamed for 400 year old behavior.

The same things you point to as evidence for oppression in America against blacks, exist for oppression in Nigeria against Chinese Asians.

Mesmer's satire has exposed the hypocrisy in the American liberal's position.

I'm just gonna go ahead and fact check this for satire.

I wasn’t responding to the OP, I was responding to you.

Except that this is not the argument. You are focusing all of your energy refuting a strawman.

Congratulations.

And I assume this is like meta-satire? You’re good man, you’re good!

Let me try... Why are you such a fascist? You should be deplatformed. 

Hmm I’ll need to work on it. I have to come into my own.

Are you saying it doesn’t happen, or are you saying people should accept it? 

Are you saying it doesn’t happen, or are you saying people should accept it? 

What exactly are you referring to?

Social inequalities. 

Yep.

The OP literally copy-pastes every shitlib argument and replaces every instance of 'White' with 'Black', 'American' with 'Nigerian'.

Spend a couple hours around shitlibs and you'll have every shitlib argument ready for satire in that time.

Are you saying it doesn’t happen, or are you saying people should accept it? 

What exactly are you referring to?

Social inequalities. 

I'd say both that it does happen and people should just accept it.

Some people are just better at things than others. The world should be geared to making use of those talents and abilities, rather than trying to make everyone equal, because the less talented people can't do a whole lot, so you just end up hammering the talented people down.

Equality is such a lovely concept on the surface, but a sinister, bloodthirsty meatgrinder if you scratch at the surface a bit.

1. You do realise you’re speaking in terms of skin pigmentation/ethnicity when it comes to talents and abilities like the literal Nazi’s did instead of looking at the individual regardless of colour. 

2. When I said social inequalities, I wasn’t referring to talents and abilities. By the way, you sound kinda marxist. 

1. You do realise you’re speaking in terms of skin pigmentation/ethnicity when it comes to talents and abilities like the literal Nazi’s did instead of looking at the individual regardless of colour. 

I am talking in terms of phenotypic, genetic and heritable traits that various humans have. Unless you are horrifically stupid enough to think all groups of humans, despite evolving in different environments with different ancestors, evolved to be precisely the same, you should agree with me.

The OP literally copy-pastes every shitlib argument and replaces every instance of 'White' with 'Black', 'American' with 'Nigerian'.

Spend a couple hours around shitlibs and you'll have every shitlib argument ready for satire in that time.

2. When I said social inequalities, I wasn’t referring to talents and abilities. By the way, you sound kinda marxist. 

First it was a Nazi, now it's a Marxist.

If you're just looking to slander with association fallacies, you can go find another person to harass. If you're interested in a productive conversation on this topic, I'm your person.

Up to you.

1. You do realise you’re speaking in terms of skin pigmentation/ethnicity when it comes to talents and abilities like the literal Nazi’s did instead of looking at the individual regardless of colour. 

I am talking in terms of phenotypic, genetic and heritable traits that various humans have. Unless you are horrifically stupid enough to think all groups of humans, despite evolving in different environments with different ancestors, evolved to be precisely the same, you should agree with me.

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The OP literally copy-pastes every shitlib argument and replaces every instance of 'White' with 'Black', 'American' with 'Nigerian'.

Spend a couple hours around shitlibs and you'll have every shitlib argument ready for satire in that time.

Do you think there a racial biases which are literally skin-deep? Yes or no. 

You do realise I am associating them with what you’ve said in different regards, right? 

The Nazi one was about you talking about skin colour and ethnicity when it comes to talents and abilities.

While the marxist one was you talking about, “Some people are just better at things than others. The world should be geared to making use of those talents and abilities”, if you just take it at stated value.

Though it’s interesting you didn’t ask what I was actually referring to, instead focusing on perceived fallacies. 

I'm just going to assume that your lack of response is implicit agreement.

No.

They are phenotypically and psychologically deep.

I'm just going to assume that your lack of response is implicit agreement.

It’s a motte-and-bailey fallacy. Stick to what you were originally arguing. 

No.

They are phenotypically and psychologically deep.

Are you saying people don’t judge others based on how they look, including skin pigmentation due to preconceived biases and stereotypes?

People do judge others based on how they look. People also judge others based on how they act.

Innate racial bias is one thing. Data-driven arguments which show certain groups of people are more prone to crime, and that this isn't a result of systemic racism, is another thing.

The more you crack down on a group of people, the higher their crime will be. e.g. Black traffic stops go down at night due to cops not being able to see their ethnicity. What you’re arguing for is a self fulfilling prophecy. 

The more you crack down on a group of people, the higher their crime will be. e.g. Black traffic stops go down at night due to cops not being able to see their ethnicity. What you’re arguing for is a self fulfilling prophecy. 

The police aren't causing the people to be criminal lol. The police are responding to crimes being committed (which are actual crimes and not fake crimes caused by a systemically racist system: Systemic Racism in U.S. criminal justice is a myth (debateart.com) ).

That 2020 study you're vaguely referencing failed to control for confounding variables such as the fact there are less Blacks on the road at night (because they are more likely to live in the hood)

carpool violations

individual police being racially biased thus making them stop only certain races (good luck controlling for that variable) and many other variables. You can't take the data facts of the 2020 and then make inferences from it without controlling for all the variables.

Blacks and whites consume cannabis at the same rate yet blacks get arrest far more for carrying it.

The police aren't causing the people to be criminal lol. The police are responding to crimes being committed (which are actual crimes and not fake crimes caused by a systemically racist system: Systemic Racism in U.S. criminal justice is a myth (debateart.com) ).

Blacks and whites consume cannabis at the same rate yet blacks get arrest far more for carrying it. Are you really that hard lined on criminality, or is it just due to your bias.

That 2020 study you're vaguely referencing failed to control for confounding variables such as the fact there are less Blacks on the road at night (because they are more likely to live in the hood)

There are less blacks on the road at night because they live in a neighbourhood? I assume you added that because most people are at home at night.

The study takes this into consideration. 

carpool violations

Do you have any statistics on that. I’m unable to find any. 

individual police being racially biased thus making them stop only certain races (good luck controlling for that variable) and many other variables. You can't take the data facts of the 2020 and then make inferences from it without controlling for all the variables.

You don’t need to look at the individual police officer to see there’s racial bias in policing. Are you saying there isn’t? If there is, what are you arguing exactly?

That's been debunked many times. Blacks regularly plea bargain down to a lesser drug possession crime because the state doesn't want to pay for a trial for felony assault etc. or other crime that went along with it. Not to mention that Blacks are more likely to keep committing crimes until the 3 strike rule is triggered because the underlying social issues in Democrat cities like single Motherhood and poor schools go largely ignored since Blacks have zero political lobbying power.

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Not a "neighbourhood", 'the hood'. It's not a good idea to go out at night in these ghetto areas, and because Blacks are more likely to live in these ghetto areas, you're going to get less Blacks out at night. The specific graph from the 2020 study you failed to cite properly is data compiled only for Texas (not even close to the entire US), and parts of Texas (e.g. Houston) certainly have these ghetto 'hood' areas.

Incorrect.

You need to make sure individual police officer discrimination isn't the cause of inequalities in police-interaction outcomes, otherwise you can't assume that these inequalities are a result of systemic racism (as opposed to individual police officers being racially bias).

I'm saying that's it's extremely likely that some police officers are racially bias and that effects their ability to police. What I'm also saying if that you've failed to differentiate that from your claim of systemic racism. In other words, a singular police officer being racially biased (if you can even prove that) doesn't prove systemic racism exists.