A Timely Warning

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We know with absolute and omniscient scientific certainty that, like, the world is going to end in 10 years if we don't address climate change. As with Socialism, past predictions only failed because the methods have yet to be correctly implemented as we are now capable of doing. Paul Ehrlich has made it clear that overpopulation is accelerating this inevitable climate catastrophe.

Mass sterilization must be implemented on a global scale to mitigate the danger of uncontrolled population growth. We can offer financial incentives to encourage compliance. Compulsory sterilization is far from being a burden for those who readily comply. Unhindered participation in a safe society is the just reward for such voluntary acquiescence.

But that will not be enough to avoid the coming catastrophe foretold by the great climate prophet AOC. For those who resist - the unsterilized - compulsion shall act as both a pillory and a noose. The safety of those who make sacrifices for global climate justice must be protected by shaming, ostracizing, and eliminating the unsterilized from society.

Access to goods and services must be restricted for the unsterilized. Public education requires proof of sterilization. Interstate and international travel will no longer be available to those who do not comply. In hospitals, we must also de-prioritize the unsterilized. We cannot waste precious resources on those who fail to see the vision of our collective future.

The unsterilized also pose the threat of impregnating those in the general population. Until we achieve the necessary levels of safe sterilization as determined by the experts to prevent overpopulation, we cannot go back to life as normal with the looming threat of climate change. We must build facilities to house the unsterilized until they are no longer a risk to the greater society.

Every day that we do not mandate sterilization, we are increasing the climate change death toll caused by overpopulation. We can no longer allow the illusion of personal liberty to perpetuate this injustice. Compulsory sterilization must be implemented now.

It is for our safety.
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Rubbish. Poppycock. Marxist propaganda. A crying wolf.

We know nothing of the sort with any certainty. You've just forced Darwin off the bus, denying us, the most adaptive species on Earth due to our intelligence, of the most corrective capability of any species: adaptation.

If there is one ideal, perfect climate that is such for all species all over the world, what is it, and where has it been such that we can recover it and duplicate it everywhere on Earth?

The Earth's multiple climates have historically seen, just by ice core samples we have studied, greater climate fluctuation in our historic past than we see now, yet, Earth survived.


Not only is world overpopulation a myth, the world population is in decline.

We do not have an overpopulation issue, we have an Earth resource distribution issue, most due to greed. Fix that; the Earth can heal herself.

Curious how those who declare the need to de-populate the Earth of humans are the last to join the forced extinction line. Huh. What, not in your back yard, but everyone else must? Sorry, your alarm is just a little self-serving.


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He's on your side, read it again with a sarcastic tone and refer to vaccination instead of sterilisation.
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from what hes posted before i think hes trying to explain how the left will turn the us into a totalitarian marxist regime using weaponizing theories like CRT which will lead to totalitarianism, something along those lines 
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@Fruit_Inspector
I'm sure that "The World" will be fine.

It's the sustainability of humanity at current levels with current demands, that is the issue.

A major reduction in human population wouldn't be a bad thing.
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A reduction in living standards wouldn't be so bad either considering the obesity problems.
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Well.....Living standards is a multi-faceted issue.

Without going into great depth.....There's nothing wrong with maintaining certain living standards.

Reducing or removing certain unnecessary or burdening expectations, would perhaps be more beneficial. 

Though how do you begin to implement such radical social change?
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The fastest way to reducing living standards is war. The second fastest would be from facist tribal socialism, likely in the form of hyperinflation.
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No. I actually believe that sterilization is good to an extent. Though, it should be voluntary instead of mandatory.

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@949havoc
RationalMadman is correct that my post was intended to show the sinister rationale behind the current vaccine mandates. But I also hoped to show that the same logic used to justify vaccine mandates can and will almost certainly be used to some extent in the future. And it wouldn't be the first time a country has done so.

I am glad to see such strong opposition to this type of policy proposal though.
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from what hes posted before i think hes trying to explain how the left will turn the us into a totalitarian marxist regime using weaponizing theories like CRT which will lead to totalitarianism, something along those lines
The implementation of mass sterilization as a logical conclusion to climate panic seems pretty totalitarian to me. And the same logic being used to try to implement vaccine mandates could be applied to such a policy proposal.
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@zedvictor4
I'm sure that "The World" will be fine.

It's the sustainability of humanity at current levels with current demands, that is the issue.

A major reduction in human population wouldn't be a bad thing.
So you support such a sterilization campaign?
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No. I actually believe that sterilization is good to an extent. Though, it should be voluntary instead of mandatory.
And what happens when voluntary sterilization is determined to be insufficient to mitigate the climate catastrophe according to the experts? Should it then be forced?
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@Fruit_Inspector
We know with absolute and omniscient scientific certainty that...
Someone doesn't understand how science works: Absolute certainty is not a science thing.

You lost me with the first statement.
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Someone doesn't understand how science works:
Absolute certainty is not a science thing.

You lost me with the first statement.
So should I assume you did not read the rest of the post?
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@Fruit_Inspector
Nope.

Can't see enforced sterilization working.

It will probably require some sort of catastrophic event.

Something that cannot be argued with.

Maybe climate catastrophe is a good thing.

Maybe a virus.

Maybe an asteroid

Maybe a nuclear war.

Super volcano.


You never know...Perhaps GOD will come back and  sort it all out.
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Ah, sterilization isn't drastic enough. You want to see massive human death through more catastrophic means.

You never know...Perhaps GOD will come back and sort it all out.
He will.

"the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction"
--2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
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Eternal destruction.

Yep, as I suggested.

But what if Allah gets here first?


Though I personally have always assumed that destruction was eternal.

So I won't be disappointed.
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@zedvictor4
I'm curious, if massive human death is a good thing, why shouldn't the government expedite the process in a more efficient way? Why wait for a natural disaster that may or may not happen?

It also seems you should be anti-vaccine since that supposedly preserves human life, further contributing to overpopulation.
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If you start out with a bad premise, I don't see how youre going to end with a valid premise. Surely, you wouldn't waste your time on something obviously dubious.
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If you start out with a bad premise, I don't see how youre going to end with a valid premise. Surely, you wouldn't waste your time on something obviously dubious.
My intention was that upon reading the entire post, one may come to realize that I was not actually warning about climate change or overpopulation. I was also not making a serious scientific assertion. Though I was intentionally somewhat subtle, so it would be understandable if that was not immediately apparent.
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Yes, you're right. I missed the sarcasm completely.
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My apologies. I completely missed your sarcasm.
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@949havoc
No worries. I was intentionally a bit subtle in my use of sarcasm. But your criticism of being Marxist propaganda was spot on in what I was going for. I thought this remark was particularly accurate regarding their hypocrisy:

Curious how those who declare the need to de-populate the Earth of humans are the last to join the forced extinction line. Huh. What, not in your back yard, but everyone else must? Sorry, your alarm is just a little self-serving.
I only hope these vaccine peddlers realize that they're paving the way for future atrocities like these and worse.
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@Fruit_Inspector
"Massive human death" is not a good thing for humans.

As we are all individually selfish.

For the same reason I do not oppose vaccines.


My honest opinion is that things will carry on in a similar fashion, until we reach a point of actual unsustainability, or until a natural disaster occurs.

The former is probably the more likely.


Though that is not to say that media inspired global re-education, does not have potential.


The obvious and undeniable  conclusion, is that things will happen as they do.

Though my experiences and input are very much time limited.

As are everyone's.
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@zedvictor4
You stated:
A major reduction in human population wouldn't be a bad thing.

You also stated:
"Massive human death" is not a good thing for humans.
If a major reduction in the human population is not a bad thing, which seems to imply it is a good thing, then why would massive human death (a major reduction in the human population) be a bad thing?
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These Titanic Sinking extremists are crazy with your “Iceberg based sinking” theory; it’s just alarmism.

For the first few hours after we “allegedly” struck this so called iceberg, you told us that the titanic would sink in hours: and look, we’re still here. So why should we believe you that we’re sinking.

You made dire predictions that the compartments would all flood, but the engine room and rear compartments are is fine, and it’s really only the first few compartments that have an issue.

You said that we would be meters closer to the surface by this point, but front of the deck still has many more meters to go before it hits the water.

Look at the stern; it’s even FURTHER out of the water than it was - how can we be sinking? It makes no sense!

We never hit an iceberg, Ships always variably in how high or low it is - there are natural cycles depending on crew and loading, sea conditions, etc. When it was launched, the bow was this low in the water for a short while - so this is just the same variation.

Oh, there’s luggage floating up and down the forward compartments? And? There’s always natural variation in how much water is in the ship - there are pumps to pump out the water for that very purpose? There is always a little water in the ship, and we have pumps to get rid of it - why should we believe it was caused by an iceberg.


You’re all being alarmist - telling us to get to the lifeboats is just an attempt to control us.


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@Ramshutu
Are you making a comparison to a situation where everyone who refuses to "get to the lifeboat" will almost certainly die?
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@Fruit_Inspector
No - it’s an analogy comparing anthropologically caused climate change denial, with titanic sinking denial to help point out the broad absurdity. 

In this case, the usage of “lifeboats” In the comparison is not to imply that everyone’s going to die; but as a metaphor for action that will help substantially mitigate the harm of the thing that is definitely happening.
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Then don't be surprised when the government mandates sterilization as a mitigation strategy. We are quickly empowering the government with the authority to take such actions when "public health and safety" is at risk.