Please is right. There are a lot of players flying under the radar, because you are nit picking about my reads.
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Grey Parrot is always town, so he is fine but speed and evilgenius need to give some analysis
I think we should allow the people who haven't contributed as much to weigh their thoughts. It's called Mafia, not the Wylted show
I’m not jumping on this lynch Poly wagon because I honestly haven’t seen anything yet to sus him. My biggest sus is Wylted ..him pointing fingers so early like this is trying to get the bounty off his head.That’s my take ..
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@Wylted
You were pretty transparent there as well, which is why I pmed him that it was extremely obvious you were the last scum, right after I was NKed. I won't exain why I knew that with 100% certainty, in case you are scum and make the same mistake here, but it was obvious from my angle, and given lunatic's frustration in sign up, he likely knew as well. Though his reasoning was analytical of the wagon and I was using linguistic analysis to determine it.
Well, I'd be interested to hear what made you so certain of me last game when I'm town confirmed in this game.
Well pie and Chris were both scum that game, and I said they were both scum with 100% confidence. Note the only other vote after that point was on supa and the vote was merely to gain compliance.So I switched my vote from chris who was scum to pie who was also scum. I don't see that as any sort of failure.
I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying that you incorrectly sussed someone in that game. I'm saying that you didn't put nearly the level of analysis you're using in this game into that one, and that you weren't driven in the same way you are now to convince others that you were right. Maybe that changed in later DPs, but the fact that it's happening here and now is what has me on edge regarding your behavior. If this is town you, I've never seen it.
Please is right. There are a lot of players flying under the radar, because you are nit picking about my reads.
You were the one trying to convince everyone that you are right and that we should just get the lynch over with because you know better over what I still believe is nitpicky reasoning. That kind of distraction is not beneficial to town. Even if you end up being right, the fact that you've been so focused on it to the exclusion of all else up to post #122 stands out to me as well.
But that's the last I'll say on it. I don't want to waste more time discussing this, and it looks like you're willing to set it aside for now. I will as well.
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@Speedrace
Given that Evilgenius has posted, I'm most interested in getting others who have been quiet more involved.
I don't suspect that pushing on GP will go anywhere, though I think the fact that his contributions amount to claiming Vanilla (knowing that it was anti-town to do so) and VTLing Poly with no reasoning, I think the lack of meaningful contributions from him is glaring, if not unusual for him. I'd especially like to know why his normal meta of full claiming in DP1 appears to have shifted to just a role claim.
All that being said, the lack of activity from Speed is more obvious. He's only posted a few times, with the most analysis coming from his responses to Pie. I'd like to see more from him before we get much further in the DP.
Unvote
VTL Speed
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@Evilgenius
My biggest sus is Wylted ..him pointing fingers so early like this is trying to get the bounty off his head.That’s my take ..
Wrong, but thanks for your analysis. I want to see more of this. It's wrong because there is literally no pressure on me and whiteflame would withdraw that bluff if I got to L1
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@Wylted
whiteflame would withdraw that bluff if I got to L1
I took my vote off of you to encourage discussion, but should it happen that a wagon forms on you, I don’t think you should count on my vote being a bluff.
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@whiteflame
Well, I'd be interested to hear what made you so certain of me last game when I'm town confirmed in this game.
I don't know where you get town confirmed. You have some conflicting tells that are unreliable at the moment.
If this is town you, I've never seen it.
It would take too much effort to track down games with similar behavior for myself, but just remember it here, because I never do it as scum. When I flip you'll have that you can add to your arsenal to read me with in the rare future games where I display the behavior.
what I still believe is nitpicky reasoning.
It's not nit picking because it isn't a personal criticism. I am not criticizing jim in any way. There is nothing wrong with writing that way, I just believe it is a scum tell.
That kind of distraction is not beneficial to town. Even if you end up being right, the fact that you've been so focused on it to the exclusion of all else up to post #122 stands out to me as well.
I realized that my play is harmful to town, even if correct in this instance, so I am trying to strike a balance between responding so I can give you information you seek, and simultaneously moving on from my tunneling so I can be beneficial.
I read several guides this morning before leaving for work on how to vet people to come around when I believe my reads are solid, and nearly all guides tell me to do the opposite of what I'm doing here. It's a struggle, because I see four trouble be similarly aggressive and people follow him.
That's fine. Apparently it is a style that works for him, but does not work for most people, or possibly I am just implementing his approach in a shitty way.
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@whiteflame
I took my vote off of you to encourage discussion, but should it happen that a wagon forms on you, I don’t think you should count on my vote being a bluff.
Ultimately I don't care. Even if I was scum I just wouldn't care. I felt it was a bluff, but I could be wrong. It happens. Rarely, but it happens.
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@Speedrace
reads please
Unvote VTl speed
not a half assed reads list either. Put in effort please.
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@Evilgenius
reads please. Sorted most town to least town
Wtf . Like 5 hours no activity.
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@Wylted
Guess you and I should have kept arguing.
Seems like it.
If nothing else, we lynch an inactive today and move on. Let the most town read player pick the inactive
VTL wf
"What do a tick and the Eiffel Tower have in common?" "They're both Paris sites."
Speedrace- 3 /5 -Drlebronski, whiteflame, wylted
Whiteflame- 1 /5-greyparrot
Supadudz- 1/ 5- iLikePie5
Drlebrokski- 1 /5- speedrace
Whiteflame- 1 /5-greyparrot
Supadudz- 1/ 5- iLikePie5
Drlebrokski- 1 /5- speedrace
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@Greyparrot
Mind explaining any of your reads? I’ll take any analysis over this minimalist behavior.
Sorry guys, I had 3 classes back to back to back from 11-5
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@Speedrace
You gonna post reads or do I need to put you at L-1?
GP, I got you buddy once we get some feedback from other players. We have a bunch of inactive now and we might as well focus on them, because we can't win if they don't get motivated to post.
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@Greyparrot
You should be giving some reasons for your votes. First you voted for me, then for Whiteflame both without explanation.
I have never played with greyparrot from what I remember, so I don’t know if this is his meta to just vote without talking but definitely seems strange.
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@Wylted
Thanks.
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@Polyglot
He tends to be rather minimal in his participation, though even by his normal standards, this seems muted. I see little difference between him in this game and players like Speed who have just gone silent.
GP is different than players like speed and evil genius, because his affiliation is usually an open book. He is quite obviously town. He also is always ready to go along with whatever town wants to do, with no fuss.
It's easy, if GP is scum, everyone knows before the end of DP1. If he isn't than he is basically a double vote for whoever he town reads. GP is fine.
Lunatic, start next dp by personally doing a stand up routine
1. Whiteflame - Most uncertain on this read but I think lean scum? He is taking extremely non-controversial stances as it relates to Wylted but you can see active effort to not be in anyone's bad graces (e.g. the soft threatening of Wylted that he did while removing his vote), which is something scum does to contribute while not getting and FOS; also why does WF keep saying Wylted is not helping the discussion and then continue to engage with him for 92,756 pages lol
2. Speedrace -Didn't post at all within 27 hrs, obvious scum
3. iLikePie5 - Lean town????
4. drlebronski - Lean scum - Mostly based on what Pie said he did in previous games and I think the most scummy thing someone can do is break their own meta for no given reason
5. Polyglot - Null but maybe lean town?? If I recall Poly is a noob but I'm not sure; assuming he is, I think most noob scum try to do damage control when accused so hard like Wylted is doing but Poly isn't doing that; also paying attention to previous games like he did isn't something scum really does
6. Supadudz - Lean scum - All of his posts seem to be like regular contributions but are actually just not adding anything new/original at all
7. Wylted - Town; y'all forget that he always plays EXACTLY like this, and he always randomly goes after someone for a garbage reason; he's also drawing far too much attention to be scum in my opinion
8. Evilgenius - null, inactive
9. greyparrot - Town, claimed according to his meta
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@ILikePie5
You gonna post reads or do I need to put you at L-1?
Bruh you were literally gone all day just like me how are you mad
Also I've never needed votes to post reads lol