Pokémon Indigo League Mafia - DP 2

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@Earth
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DP has come to a standstill
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Earth wanted some time and im pretty sure he has made some deliberations now

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@Evilgenius
you totally discarded my reasons for being a newbie..
You worded that weird... are you saying I ignored your fourth post because you are new? If that is what you are saying that is dumb since I already pointed out in post 194 that your 4th post was made while I was typing post 193 so I couldn't see it.
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@Earth
it is time to start coalescing around an agreeable lynch. Place your vote. Then we will start negoriations.
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 You town read pie?
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@oromagi
it is time to start coalescing around a lynch. If pie or disc are not in your town pile, I recommend voting one of them, so we can make a lynch go through
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@Evilgenius
this is the part of the dp, where we start coalescing around an agreeable lynch and compromise a bit. Who would you prefer between disc and pie?
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never mind. I see you chose
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Why are we on Disc
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@Wylted
You town read pie?
Not really, just unvoted him to vote for genius and have not had time to play since.

If it is between pie and me of course I would rather lynch pie.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
it isn't necessarily.  If you have a null or scum read on him vote him. If you have a town read don't.  I just want to know where everyone stands so we can start negotiating a lynch
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I’m sure disc is scum .. why? Because he just put me on the chopping blocking because of being inactive which is not a good reason to lynch me.. I had good reasons for being inactive in DP1..

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@Evilgenius
This isn’t good reasoning, Evil. It’s good reason for being frustrated, but it’s not going to recruit anyone to VTL Disc. At least with Pie, he’s giving me some utility-based reasons to vote, though that doesn’t really tell me why Disc is more likely to be scum (looks a bit like weak bussing to me). It’s not at all unusual for someone to sus another player on the basis that they are largely absent from the game. Hell, we did it last game and landed on scum (Poly) partially as a result of his inactivity. Anyone can come up with any excuse for not being around. We can’t verify it. You may have been absent for perfectly good reasons, and even if you we’re, the VTL functions as a way to  push you to increase your activity. It didn’t start a substantial wagon so you weren’t in danger of actually being lynched, either.
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Official Vote Count

ILikePie5 (2/5) - SupaDudz, Whiteflame 
Discipulus_Didicit (3/5) - ILikePie5, Evilgenius, Wylted 
Wylted (1/5) - oromagi 
Evilgenius (1/5) - Discipulus_Didicit

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@Wylted
Lynch Disc
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I am going to lynch Pie. The circumstances around Evil voting Discipulus_Didicit and the fact Pie is always on mind keeps me from voting anyone else 

Vtl Pie
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Why are we on Disc
Cause he’s scum. I’ll outline the reasons.

He claims he’s the Miller as MeeTwo when Gary Oak would fit that much better with the same justification and being a character in the show.

Mewtwo doesn’t appear at all in the show; rather, he appears in the movie, which is unique to him and only him. Disc also knows a lot about the theme so a fake claim like that is within his realm.

Scum, if they don’t have a GF, Lawyer, or Framer can easily claim Miller even if there’s a Cop.

I don’t want to deal with a Miller are MYLO and I’d say no one wants to either.

Last reason is in the off chance Disc flips town it means Pokémon do exist in the game and my claim is strengthened a bit. On the contrary if Disc flips scum I’ll be on the chopping block which is fine with me since we’d still have one more mislynch available to help with POE


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@Earth
I am going to lynch Pie. The circumstances around Evil voting Discipulus_Didicit and the fact Pie is always on mind keeps me from voting anyone else 
Evil is a noob so it’s hard to read him honestly. And I’m curious what the bolder portion means. I’ve outlined the reasons why Disc is a good option today and right now (correct me if I’m wrong) you’re on me cause you don’t like me lol.

Vtl Pie

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@whiteflame
This isn’t good reasoning, Evil. It’s good reason for being frustrated, but it’s not going to recruit anyone to VTL Disc. At least with Pie, he’s giving me some utility-based reasons to vote, though that doesn’t really tell me why Disc is more likely to be scum (looks a bit like weak bussing to me). It’s not at all unusual for someone to sus another player on the basis that they are largely absent from the game. Hell, we did it last game and landed on scum (Poly) partially as a result of his inactivity. Anyone can come up with any excuse for not being around. We can’t verify it. You may have been absent for perfectly good reasons, and even if you we’re, the VTL functions as a way to  push you to increase your activity. It didn’t start a substantial wagon so you weren’t in danger of actually being lynched, either.
Evil is in my null pile because attributing reasons to noobs is extremely hard. He could just be saying what his partner tells him to, or he’s just a noob doing noob things like this. Either way Disc is the optimal lynch. I have much more utility than he does and his claim is extremely suspect.
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Alright, we’ve got a clear split in the votes, and I still feel pretty torn myself. Earth and Supa, lay out your reasons for VTLing Pie, I’ve already explained mine.
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@ILikePie5
Its funny that you say Mewtwo's justification for being miller is odd when you are Charzard claiming to be bomb.
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Additionally I still think you been trying to buddy with me the whole game.
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X.drlebronski                     Professor Oak                   ENABLER
X.Lunatic                            Pikachu [cc Ofc Jenny]    3XCOP
oromagi                           Misty                        VANILLA
TOWN                                                                                                           
Earth                                  Nurse Joy             3XDOCTOR
SupaDudz                        Ash                          ?XTRACKER
 ILikePie                          Charizard                ODD or EVEN BOMB
Discipulus_Didicit       MewTwo                 MILLER
Evilgenius                        Gary Oak               VANILLA
Wylted                                Brock                      INNOCENT CHILD
whiteflame                     Narrator                 VANILLA                              
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@Earth
So then your reasoning is that the role doesn’t fit the character? If anything, I’m put off by how well the Charizard role fits the character. Why do you think it’s a poor fit?

And what makes you think Pie is buddying you? You both have seemed more antagonistic than most anyone in these DPs.
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@whiteflame
Charzard would work for something like odd night PGO or something. Voltorb would work better. Bombs kill themselves along with who tried to kill them. Charzard doesn't work like that.
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If it's Disc or Pie or don't really have a strong conviction either way.   Based on characters, Mewtwo still seems scummier than Charizard.  However, I don't know Pokémon.  Lunatic was convinced Charizard was the scummier claim.  Whiteflame seems to feel the same way.  I think Supa has a pretty good gut when it comes to Pie.  I don't have a strong argument here, I am more trusting Whiteflame & Supa's convictions.  

UNVOTE

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Pie is at L-1.
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@Earth
Its funny that you say Mewtwo's justification for being miller is odd when you are Charzard claiming to be bomb.
This is a false analogy. Gary Oak is a mainstream character in the show itself (not movie) and goes from bad to good. Hell Evil’s own justification makes him a better Miller than Disc.

As for my character, Charizard is pretty main in the show from what I’ve heard (not the movie) and it is like the ownly main character that fits the role. If you can think of any other mainstream Pokémon that fit my role that’s fine. 

Either way, you have to run under the assumption that if I’m scum, Disc has to be scum too cause we’re Pokémon, and you seem to be ignoring that. I have more utility if alive while Disc just causes more confusion if he’s alive at MYLO or later.

Additionally I still think you been trying to buddy with me the whole game.
I don’t think you realize what buddying means lol
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@Earth
Charzard would work for something like odd night PGO or something. Voltorb would work better. Bombs kill themselves along with who tried to kill them. Charzard doesn't work like that.
A PGO is OP in this game lol. Don’t know much about Voltorb, who’s that? Does he kill himself along with whoever he attacks? And is he a mainstream character?
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@Earth
I guess I can see a PGO working, but that would be even scummier to me, especially given how that would affect the balance in this game. Seems much less likely that Poly would specifically pick out a Pokémon like Voltorb that barely shows up in the series to represent one of only two Pokémon in the game, so better potential fits aside, this is one of the tighter-fitting roles in this game.