Pokémon Indigo League Mafia - DP 1

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I think it makes you scum.
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@whiteflame
hmmmm.....polyglot stated " This will include characters only from the Indigo League."

and you're telling me that MewTwo is not part of that show?
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@Earth
I think it makes you scum.
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To my recollection, his only appearances have been in the movies, though I haven’t seen any episodes from the later seasons. Part of the reason that Mewtwo doesn’t sit right with me is that he’s the only claimed character that originated in a movie and did not appear in the series.

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@whiteflame
I though Indigo League was the first season of the TV show?
It is, but Mewtwo wouldn't be in this game solely encompassed the first season. I think the idea is that the first movie took place during the events of the first season.

It's been a while, but isn't the movie kind of like a season finale for indigo league? Like MewTwo is 100% canon, because he is included even in the games that were released in that time (Red, Yellow, Blue). 
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@whiteflame
It is, but Mewtwo wouldn't be in this game solely encompassed the first season. I think the idea is that the first movie took place during the events of the first season.
Wait so Mewtwo isn’t in the TV show at all? 

Or is there also a movie called Indigo League
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@Earth
What the fuck did you want me to do? Say "My character is totally not Nurse Joy tee hee!"?
Nah, you just had to put in five minutes of effort and research a pokemon gym leader or character. They have literally got hundreds. Whatever, it's beating a dead horse now, but if you had caught up on the game you would have seen the conversation where we had stated multiple times that nurse joy and officer jenny weren't to claim their real charatcers.
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The events of the film take place during the first season of Pokémon: Indigo League.

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@Lunatic
Thoughts on 261-262?

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oromagi                          Misty
TOWN
Lunatic                           Pikachu
 ILikePie                         Charizard
Earth                              Nurse Joy
Evilgenius                    Gary Oak
SupaDudz                        Ash
Wylted                                Brock
 drlebronski                Professor Oak         ENABLER
Discipulus_Didicit      MewTwo                 MILLER
whiteflame                    Narrator
SCUM

LAZY VC

Discipulus_didicit (1/6) - Wylted
Earth (3/6) - ILikePie5, whiteflame, oromagi 

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Thoughts on 261-262?
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I unvoted a couple of pages ago
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@Lunatic
I haven’t watched Star Wars either lol
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Yeah, I’m pretty sure that it takes place during the events of the season, even if it is at the very end of it. Still makes Mewtwo a bit of a standout as far as claims go, but only insofar as he’s the only character mentioned so far that is not in the series proper. That doesn’t exclude him as an option.
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@ILikePie5
Problem is that Bron could conceivably be a town enabler and you  a scum power role if Poly wanted to. It sort of balances out the negative utility of an Enabler by connecting him to a scum role.

At the same time tho, in a 10 player game, if there are 2 scum it doesn’t really fit. 3 scum I could really see it happening because it can weaken scum by forcing a townie to be alive

I don't currently scum read either supa or bron, behaviorally, and I currently buy the claims. 
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@whiteflame
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that it takes place during the events of the season, even if it is at the very end of it. Still makes Mewtwo a bit of a standout as far as claims go, but only insofar as he’s the only character mentioned so far that is not in the series proper. That doesn’t exclude him as an option.
TBH it just solidifies my town read on him. If disc were scum it would take an easy google search of pokemon indigo league characters to realize automatically that MewTwo is a bit of a stand out in this regard. As scum maybe he had some vague memory of MewTwo being from the early pokemon and was like "hey that's a good miller claim" but I highly doubt it. We haven't seen it much lately due to his inactivity, but disc is actually in my opinion one of the better mafia players on DART. I think as scum that's far too lazy a move for him to make, it's hasty and not his style. When I was scum with him in warren's bastard states, I was the brazen scum and was later chastised by him for CC'ing a townie. I think disc is a much more methodical and diabolical scum mastermind, and if he were scum here he would have waited longer to claim and carefully thought out his options. I guess it could be a fake claim given to them by the mod, but I am not yet too eager to board that wagon until I see some sketchy behavior to go alongside him. 

As of right now is general inactivity is consistent with his town play, and him probably not getting spammed discord pings by a scum partner. I actually know who I want to lynch today, but it's going to be a fight tooth and nail in order to pull it off, and I am not sure I have the time and energy to put into trying to convince the masses of it since we have node war on Black Desert Online in a few hours. 
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Please NK me soon just as an act of mercy. I want to take a hiatus. My mental health is getting worse. 

I actually found something I enjoyed doing and felt great about life. I had literally 8 great sales weeks in a row, and now I am doing shit this week.

This is like 4 days in a row with terrible results. I have to be careful what I say here, but I just want to die. I finally felt like I could feel good about what I do, because I am not feeding people poison that is slowly killing them, and I suck at it. I just don’t understand how I can go from being good to being shit. I am tinkering to think about how I can fix this, but I think it is unfixable and I just had massive luck the first 8 weeks.

At least replace me, once the first town member dies. 
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@Lunatic
I'd be down to lynch pie. You don't have to fight tooth and nail.
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I am not an enabler
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@Wylted
I'd be down to lynch pie. You don't have to fight tooth and nail.
Yeah cat's out of the bag then. I have a pm based reason to suspect the Charizard claim highly. That and Pie's behavior regarding claiming general, the posturing around how he was gonna need "6 votes to claim" and now all of a sudden claims and claims a character that stands out as much as Charizard really makes him my best option here. If he was posturing around needing 6 votes to claim Ash that would have been a different story but even then I was doubting he would be Ash here. 

I have a guess who is partner is too, but I want to save that read for later in case his partner feels like helping us bus him for town cred and me mentioning them may change their mind lol


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Thoughts on the Charizard claim and how it stands out compared to the others? 
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okay, let's see what happens

Unvote VtL Pie
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I don't think I took my vote off of pie, but just in case vtl pie
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disc is definitely in my scum pool. I don't even think there is a cop, tbh.
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Yeah cat's out of the bag then.
What does this refer to?

 I have a pm based reason to suspect the Charizard claim highly. 
explain.

claims a character that stands out as much as Charizard
I'm not a Pokemon guy but from my perspective, Mewtwo stands out way more as the only non-season1 character and the only bad guy.  And narrator stands out as not really a character.    At least charizard is a character from season 1.

What makes you say that Charizard stands out?
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Yeah cat's out of the bag then. I have a pm based reason to suspect the Charizard claim highly. That and Pie's behavior regarding claiming general, the posturing around how he was gonna need "6 votes to claim" and now all of a sudden claims and claims a character that stands out as much as Charizard really makes him my best option here. If he was posturing around needing 6 votes to claim Ash that would have been a different story but even then I was doubting he would be Ash here. 
I would really like to hear this reason. And I said that I would claim claim after 6 people decide on supporting it didn’t I? I could’ve waited and delayed the DP by forcing everyone to place their vote on me, but I didn’t.

Also what stands out about Charizard.
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I think you meant to ping Luna
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If we are looking at the claims list, I can make an argument for just about every character being more plausible to be in the game then Charizard. Charmander isn't even introduced into the season until episode 11, and doesn't evolve into Charizard until episode 46. There are only 55 episodes in the season. I will admit that Charizard does have a pretty big scene where he is being obstinate and refuses to listen to Ash and Ash has an emotional scene where he finally breaks through to Charizard. 

But I still think this character stands out, even compared to MewTwo who technically only appears in the movie but objectively is a main threat in the series as he plays the main antagonist until the end where his mind is changed by seeing the bond humans and pokemon can share. 

Charizard is definitely an outlier here, not a character worth pie threatening to stall the game out for so he can 6 votes though. Every other claimed character is a pretty "main" character comparatively, and that's even with me suspecting one of the other claims. 
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Charizard is definitely an outlier here, not a character worth pie threatening to stall the game out for so he can 6 votes though. Every other claimed character is a pretty "main" character comparatively, and that's even with me suspecting one of the other claims. 
You’re assuming I would know that. Even if I did, I wouldn’t claim because I disagree with mass claims as a matter of principle - unless of course the claim Pool is relatively low