Fire Emblem Mafia Day Phase 2

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@Polyglot
It has not gone unnoticed that you have been online and not posted on here despite having been tagged. Part of why I flagged you just happened to disappear when it was opportune to do so. Are you doing it again?
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Glad to hear you don't have COVID-19
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*Part of why I flagged you as potential scum in the last game is that you just happened to disappear when it was opportune to do so.
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Disc has a very good point about my claim and what not and I certainly can get behind his logic into why he scum reads, but his logic is contingent on the fact that Pie is 100% town and that I knew ahead of time what role Pie was. Even so, it's MYLO anyway, most people are gonna assume that a VTNL is in order so that our information we get is 100% correct. This batch of people is smart and wouldn't just jump to rush a lynch when unneeded too. It would then come down to 50/50 and as scum, you want to deviate as much pressure off you as you can, not throw it up in the air to a coin toss
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Good point, but do note that they are in a different country, so timezones play a huge factor into when they can talk + activity. While it seems convenient, I can give some slack due to the drastic change in timezone
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VTNL (2/4) - Wylted, SupaDudz 
Discipulus_Didicit  (1/4) - Polyglot
SupaDudz  (1/4) - Discipulus_Didicit 


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@Earth
Can you ping Poly to show up? This is getting ridiculous 
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@Vader
Disc has a very good point about my claim and what not and I certainly can get behind his logic into why he scum reads, but his logic is contingent on the fact that Pie is 100% town and that I knew ahead of time what role Pie was. Even so, it's MYLO anyway, most people are gonna assume that a VTNL is in order so that our information we get is 100% correct. This batch of people is smart and wouldn't just jump to rush a lynch when unneeded too. It would then come down to 50/50 and as scum, you want to deviate as much pressure off you as you can, not throw it up in the air to a coin toss
Well, what we know (at least, what I know - depends on how much you buy my claim, though ATM, it's the only informational role claim) is that Pie visited me during NP1. He didn't RB me. He didn't NK me. It's possible that he's the Role Cop, found out that I'm the Tracker, and gave the BG as an excuse for having visited me last night in case I tracked him, but at least for right now, I have more reason to believe the BG claim than to doubt it. That doesn't mean I'm sussing you, and I gave reasons why I think his point is pretty flimsy on that front even if I presume that Pie is town (if anything, that kind of logic seems like more of a deliberate attempt to push attention elsewhere, which seems at least a little scummy to me).

All this being said, yes, I'm assuming that we will end this DP in a VTNL. I also have a pretty good indication of who scum will target during NP2, assuming that Poly doesn't claim or that he claims a non-informational role. Waiting until the next DP should yield more information and, hopefully, verify Pie's and/or your role in the process. Either that or we end up in much the same place as we are now, but with fewer people to eliminate from the potential scum pool.

Good point, but do note that they are in a different country, so timezones play a huge factor into when they can talk + activity. While it seems convenient, I can give some slack due to the drastic change in timezone
That would be sufficient reason if a) Poly hadn't been on in the last couple of hours and, thus, had the opportunity to post, b) if it hadn't been now over a day and a half since he posted anything at all, and c) if his contributions thusfar amounted to anything more than claiming his character (passing on the opportunity to provide any results or even state whether he has any), lightly sussing Disc, and then advocating for a VTNL in the very next post. I don't find it simple to excuse this behavior.
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While we're here, since we haven't yet done this, I'd like to ask you both why you chose the targets that you did.

I understand Supa's decision to a greater degree because I feel like a lot of us were behaviorally reading Wylted as town by the end of the first DP, and I anticipated him being the target of the NK for that reason. The fact that he wasn't is a knock against him in my book, though Luna normally makes for a pretty appetizing target for scum regardless.

Pie, I assume that you townread me, though I'd like to know why you did and/or why you believed I might be the target of the NK.
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We'll probably lynch poly next DP. He owes his team an apology, be it mafia or town
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@whiteflame
I picked Wylted because he soft claimed a role and looking at my role, I don't understand how there could a role designed for bigger games that would give town a huge advantage.
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@whiteflame
Your reasoning as well is true
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@whiteflame
You should sus me because I have a CC against Pie to a degree, in fact I'd be scumreading you if you weren't sussing one of us. Still, I think both of us can co-exist in this game but with me, you have to understand that CC'ing is a huge gambit for mafia to take because it brings more attention to you and puts you in the spotlight. As scum, I do tend to play more passive with my claims more than anything. I think the only time I've said blatent bullshit as scum was in live mafia where I claimed Medium and bullshitted my responses. Even that is not as much as a risk as doing a full fake CC. 

Fair enough. I haven't check Poly's status but there activity is genuinely hurting the game
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@whiteflame
Pie, I assume that you townread me, though I'd like to know why you did and/or why you believed I might be the target of the NK.
There wasn’t much to go off of but your posts just gave me a gut town feeling 
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Alright, this shit with Poly is just ridiculous. Guy was on 4 hours ago, which means he's been on since we started tagging him again. Hell, he was probably on after Earth prodded him, but no post. Especially given that this is such a small game, there's no excuse for this BS. Earth, can you replace him if he doesn't post within the next 24 hours?
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Lunatic should tag in if poly is ghosting
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@Wylted
I agree for sure
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@Earth
Find a sub and give an extension
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Okay this is clearly what people are wanting so unvote VTNL
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Don't give an extension, but find a replacement yes
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@Wylted
Why you against an extension?
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it unfairly disadvantages scum, especially if poly is town and an active role
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Bringing lunatic in is already a disadvantage. They strategically removed him from the game, under the assumption he would no longer be a problem. No need to further disadvantage them, assuming he is town
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@Wylted
it unfairly disadvantages scum, especially if poly is town and an active role
So?

Whose side are you on lol
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Sorry guys. I’m here, I can be active now. 
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Had some work priorities the past day. 
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what is this?
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I’m fine with VTNL