Fire Emblem Mafia Day Phase 2

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@Wylted
You will understand next dp
I'm willing to wait. At the moment, your soft claim improves your position over both Poly and Disc.
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@Wylted
You will understand next dp
I'm willing to wait. At the moment, your soft claim improves your position over both Poly and Disc.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Supa has given role, character, and justification. You have so far given just character and role unless I missed something (in which case sorry). Please give us your role justification.
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Waiting for Poly cause Disc isn’t investigative role
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Okay sorry I missed it. I am convinced that sups is scum and you are town so unvote vtl supa
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I am willing to switch VTNL if that is what the rest of town wants.
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VTNL (1/4) - Wylted
Discipulus_Didicit  (1/4) - Polyglot
SupaDudz  (1/4) - Discipulus_Didicit 

About 47.5 hours left in the day.
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I am convinced that sups is scum
Would be great if you could explain this read. You VTL'd him at the start of the DP, said it was part of some unknown "inside joke", and now you're convinced he's scum. So I'll ask again: why did you VTL Supa?
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@whiteflame
Would be great if you could explain this read
My answer to this is simple, though I may be incorrect.

I just don't buy the idea that they are both town with those role claims. My gut tells me that the oddball 50/50 mechanic pie claimed is more likely to be a mod giving a townie a wired role twist than pie as scum coming up with an out-of-left-field fake claim. If we are in MyLo supa may have hoped that a cc, even an indirect one, would lead to insta win (I have done similar before, I cc'd a doc by fake claiming bodyguard when I was scum).
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wired role twist
weird role twist*
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I guess there's some sense to that, though I don't think it would be particularly odd for there to be two protective roles, especially with one of them being a flavored BG. The main thing that has me questioning this conclusion is that Supa claimed his role before three other players could claim theirs, namely you, Poly and Wylted. He might have had an indication that Wylted's role is not the Doc, but this would be a pretty ballsy fake claim unless Earth gave them fake claims. From my experience playing with Supa as scum, his claims don't tend to be quite so easily CC'd as this would be. Right now, I'm buying the claim.
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My theory assumes pie is town so supa would already know who the protective role is when he claimed.

I guess it also assumes only one protective role but that makes sense to me given how small the game is. If they are both protective roles as claimed that gives town close to 40-50% or so chance (didn't do the exact math) of protecting successfully on NP1 and thereby town confirming someone. Seems a bit town sided.
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As far as I know, this is Earth's first game modding, so I wouldn't be too surprised if he had designed it with two protective roles despite the size. I also don't think it's terribly unreasonable. The best case scenario is that they protect two separate people out of the seven, achieving roughly 30% protection, though of course that assumes that they select different targets. As for town confirming someone, that's less clear since not having an NK go through can be the result of multiple different actions, or even inaction by scum, depending on the circumstances. Seems like you're lending a bit more heft to these roles than I would.

I can see your point, but it also seems to be based in a number of assumptions that I wouldn't make.
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@whiteflame
The best case scenario is that they protect two separate people out of the seven, achieving roughly 30% protection, though of course that assumes that they select different targets
I did the math and it came out to a 22.5% save chance all things taken into account. My assumptions might be wrong but you didn't ask me who is definitely scum you asked why I thought it was supa lol.

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You have been summoned
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Yes, because I thought it was odd that you said you were convinced that Supa was scum, yet you didn't provide any reasoning. Aside from the debatable issue of whether two protective roles is too much, which could simply be the result of our mod's choices, everything here seems very WIFOM to me. It also just doesn't check out behaviorally. For someone who seemed so convinced, you've provided an awful lot of caveats when it comes to your reasoning.
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If disc is town and has information he is refusing tonshare that can catch scum today, he is being an idiot
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@Wylted
Since hasn't provided any information he may have garnered during the NP despite specific requests and has blatantly stated that he'd give such information if he had it, I'd be highly suspect of any information he provides in this DP past this point. This sussing of Supa seems pretty weakly supported.

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Agreed
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We all know this is going to be a no lynch or that every member of town will be useless until the DP expires. We should just end my misery and VTNL. I would reconsider for a policy lynch on disc, since he is holding back though. 
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We should all note that if disc is town, he is the obvious NK, so him holding backnis doubly useless.
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@Wylted
Like Pie, I'd like to see Poly post again before I VTNL. As for Disc, I agree that he looks pretty scummy and would be willing to pursue a lynch, but I think the VTNL is still the way to go this DP.
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@Wylted
If disc is town and has information he is refusing tonshare that can catch scum today, he is being an idiot
Agree, though I am not sure what brought this up. Are you under the impression that I am doing this?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
your odd suspicion of supa, starting with the rapid vote, and a less than full explanation of what you meant by "inside joke"
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@Wylted
Oh okay. Well, nothing to read into. I have no NP results to report right now and my sus of supa is explained above, it has nothing to do with night actions and you are free to think that I am incorrect and supa is town.
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I don't have an opinion on whether he is town or not. 
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About 36 hours remaining in the day.
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I guess I tested negative for covid. It was just the flu. So am still covid proof. It was nice to have nobody around me though. 
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Thought about faking a positive result, so I could get like 2 more weeks of isolation, but fuck it.