Which definition have you read that leaves government out?
Disagree. The first person to define the terms of the debate almost always wins the debate in my experience.
Making up your own socio-political or economic reality never wins the day.
...but morals should always be well-sourced.
None of them do to my knowledge, if I am incorrect about that please correct me.
Which dictionary says that authoritarianism is basically just an antonym for anarchy?
So why is associating the descriptive "authoritarian" to government exercise contrary to definition?
I did not say that. I said that the definition "anything that the government is involved in is authoritarian" is not backed up by any dictionary that I am aware of.
I don't believe anyone claimed that the definition is as you've described.
Underdog did in post 16+17 (he gave the example of outlawing rape. He said that outlawing rape was authoritarian), then in post 22 I said I disagree with post 16+17, then you responded to post 22 in post 25 and that is what started the conversation between us lmao.So yes somebody did say "anything the government is involved in is authoritarian" and all I have done is ask how that definition was arrived at.
If the government gets involved with anything, it's authoritarian. Some authoritarianism is necessary, like murder and rape being banned. However, if the government gets involved with ANYTHING, it's authortarian.
You must be using a different dictionary than your fellow human people.Anyway it is a good thing the government is not involved with taxes, the military, public infrastructure maintenance, etc. or we may have to get rid of all that too.
All of which are authoritarian. Perhaps you should revisit that dictionary and reflect on the definition of authoritarian.
None of them do to my knowledge, if I am incorrect about that please correct me.
So what are we truly arguing about here, Disciplus_Didicit?
Let's try this: submit your preferred definition of authoritarian/authoritarianism.
believing that people should obey authority and rules, even when these are unfair, and even if it means that they lose their personal freedom
favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
Both seem fine. I think the second is more accurate and complete though.
Do you think that, for example, elections count as "a thing that government is involved in"?
Do you think elections count as "favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority"?
LOL dude your definition of authoritarian is when the government does stuff?????????by this logic food tickets=authoritarianpublic library=authoritarianpublic school=authoritarianalso please tell me what about free school is authoritarian?????
Most libertarians still believe in having a standing police force, army and legislators.
Stealing people's money to fund schools when they don't want to educate their kids via public school is authoritarian
Forcing people to feed others from their tax dollars is authoritarian
Forcing people to pay for a library they don't even use is authoritarian. I think schools and libraries should be privatized so the private sector can deliver more books to more people and public school sucks.
taxes are not stealing peoples money
this also is extremely selfish
BECAUSE IT HELPS PEOPLE WHO DONt HAVE AS MUCH PRIVILEGE OR MONEY TO GET INTO A PRIVATE SCHOOL!?
yea lol we should now just let homeless people die.
also you haven't explained HOW this is authoritarian.
DO you realize how much private schools cost?????????
If the government is involved with ANYTHING, it's authoritarian.
Granted, some levels of authoritarianism are acceptable.
Stealing people's money to fund schools when they don't want to educate their kids via public school is authoritarian. Forcing people to feed others from their tax dollars is authoritarian. Forcing people to pay for a library they don't even use is authoritarian. I think schools and libraries should be privatized so the private sector can deliver more books to more people and public school sucks.
It's legalized theft.
Poorly stated. No form of authoritarianism is acceptable.
In order to have laws, you need authoritarianism.
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If they reject authoritarianism and the government, why do most want government run healthcare and free college? That sounds pretty authoritarian right?; the government getting involved with people’s lives fiscally.If you support this, then fine, but your not libertarian then.
