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Poly [1/4] whiteflame
Disc [3/4] Poly, Pie, Wylted
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@ILikePie5
Scum can’t be Speed or Disc cause they would’ve hammered by now. Unless you believe it’s exactly Speed and Poly or Disc and Poly. Poly is still scum
If speed is scum then I am scum so a speed-poly team is not possible.
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@whiteflame
Speaking of the above...
So, to my mind, what we’ve done this DP makes it pretty straightforward: we either lynch Poly or Speed.
Why poly or speed if you know a poly-speed team is impossible and a lynch of poly ends the game if he is town? Seems like an odd choice combination.
Actually I finally read the rest of the DP this morning and still don't get why people are suspicious of poly in general.
Honestly think whiteflame might be scum. vanilla is a convenient fake claim to avoid having to fake actions. His belief that poly is scum is something I disagree with but doesn't necessarily make wf scum, though I still don't see why he would push so hard to lynch poly in an effective MyLo situation.
Lastly the internal inconsistency of having his top two suspects be two people that can't possibly be on a team together seems contrived. I am going to vote whiteflame unless someone shows me a good argument for lynching someone else.
VTL whiteflame
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@Vader
I unvoted a while back.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I’ll post more extensively later when I get a chance, but I will note that I was clear that it was either Speed or Poly, not both. Discussion with Luna has opened it up a bit since then, but my point even back then was that it was Speed and you, or Poly and someone else, i.e. that there were two possible lunches, each of which would lead us down different routes in future DPs. Luna has argued that it’s either Speed or Pie, despite the fact that they are most definitely not a scum team. Does that make his argument contrived as well?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Should say “lynches” not “lunches” - gotta love that autocorrect.
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@whiteflame
Lynching Disc helps confirm Speed. It’s the optimal path today
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@ILikePie5
I'm considering it, though I'm not so sure that it's optimal. However, if the above is DD's response to being put at L-1, then I'm willing to do it. Just give me a bit to sort through my thoughts.
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@ILikePie5
If Disc flips scum, then I’d say WF is next in line.
Mind explaining this one to me? If DD flips scum, wouldn't that implicate Speed first and foremost, given that he's claimed to be a Doc Enabler? Not saying that it isn't plausible that DD saw Speed's claim and used it to craft a fake claim, but their claims are directly connected. I'm not at all clear on how his flipping scum implicates me.
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@Lunatic
There is no need to rush the phase. And if speed is scum he doesn't get to skate through this whole game scot free. He's done that too many times and I've learned my lesson.
Given that we still have 2 days, I'm inclined to agree with this. I'd like to see DD actually respond to being put at L-1, and for Speed to post in this DP. That will clarify my decision.
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@whiteflame
Luna has argued that it’s either Speed or Pie, despite the fact that they are most definitely not a scum team. Does that make his argument contrived as well?
I didn't notice that but honestly I would rather have you guys lynch me than lynch speed. I know he is town and if I am lynched and you all see my flip then you will all see it too and having a confirmed townie is a good thing, on the other hand if he is lynched that does not town confirm me in any way.
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@whiteflame
I'd like to see DD actually respond to being put at L-1,
I mean, I already claimed and I am already posting as much as I can. Not sure what you are asking for here.
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@ILikePie5
Lynching Disc helps confirm Speed. It’s the optimal path today
Scum will just kill speed in the night for being town confirmed but at least that keeps them from killing the investigation roles so I can live with this if we have to. I would rather not do so right away of course but if it happens it happens.
Got off work 10 hours early so I will be on today.
Uh I don't really like a Disc lynch because if he's scum, balance is all out of wack in this game with a 1x doc, doc, and BP; enabler balances that a little at least
Then again scum could just have a strongman and it wouldn't matter...
Also the way Luna has been jumping between lynch targets is indicative of scum, plus the fact that he switched right off from pie right when pie started agreeing with him
VTL Luna
Oh and I doc'd pie because I town read him and wanted to be unpredictable
Vote Count
whiteflame[1/4]Disc
Disc [3/4] Poly, Pie, Wylted
Lunatic [1/4] Speed
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@Speedrace
Also the way Luna has been jumping between lynch targets is indicative of scum
Lunatic may be scum, but jumping lynch to lynch is usually a town tell, because town is uninformed
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@Lunatic
@Speedrace
I'm honestly a little baffled by these last two posts. You have to know that a lynch on Luna is extremely unlikely this DP. I know I'd be willing to consider him later, but you'll have to do a lot better than pointing out that he's shifted around his lynch targets. I don't agree with Wylted that it's a towntell, but it's not particularly indicative of him being scum either, and I can find little other reason to sus him right now.
As for your reasoning for picking Pie, that makes even less sense to me. I understand picking someone who you townread, but choosing the same target twice doesn't exactly scream "unpredictable" to me, nor does it make a whole lot of sense to try to be unpredictable during NP1 when no one knew your role.
This is pretty lazy reasoning for Speed, and we've been burned by him being inactive and lazy with his posts before. Gives me a lot more reason to sus DD now, given that they're linked.
What do you think, Luna?
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@whiteflame
I agree that speed's reasoning here is pretty lazy. Jumping around on lynches? I have been trying to prevent people from hammering this day phase, even on the lynches I agree with. Kind of the opposite of jumping around to the most convenient lynch. I have consistently scum read every person I have mentioned from day phase one. The only one I changed on was poly, based on a result on him and him nearly being hammered. Pie I town read prior to that, and I haven't changed my read on him because he unvoted. I just happen to think the speed/disc scum team is more likely at the moment, but pie is still high on my radar.
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@whiteflame
I understand picking someone who you townread, but choosing the same target twice doesn't exactly scream "unpredictable" to me,
Scum didn't know who I picked NP1, so it is unpredictable
nor does it make a whole lot of sense to try to be unpredictable during NP1 when no one knew your role.
Scum does NKs with the possibility of doc whether or not one is confirmed
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@whiteflame
I'm considering it, though I'm not so sure that it's optimal.
Why not? If Disc is scum, great. If he’s not, then Speed is confirmed town going into LYLO assuming 2 scum
However, if the above is DD's response to being put at L-1, then I'm willing to do it. Just give me a bit to sort through my thoughts.
If we lynch Speed and he’s town, it doesn’t confirm Disc.
I still don’t like Poly’s claim. A Poly/Disc team is conceivable to me. I’d like to lynch Disc first tho.
So what are we doing today?
If disc and speed literally have nothing more to offer than I am lynching disc.
Vtl disc
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@Speedrace
Avenge me.
Well, guess I got to this late, just got back from work. I’d have hammered as well.
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@whiteflame
I don't think it's a hammer isn't it just me pie and poly on disc?