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Yes, Pie, I intentionally drew a wagon on myself and claim bodyguard only to backtrack and claim Bulletproof instead. This was my greatest gambit and you, and only you figured it out.
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Yes, Pie, I intentionally drew a wagon on myself and claim bodyguard only to backtrack and claim Bulletproof instead. This was my greatest gambit and you, and only you figured it out.
This is WIFOM
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So the argument here is that he is "changing his claim" while he already knows he is scum read as a way to alleviate suspicion? Pie let's be real here, Mafia members wouldn't do this. At this point they would just stick with bodyguard as a fake claim. Unless you could make the argument both scum are noobs and maybe they thought this would save them, or maybe Earth is third party, I don't see him back tracking his claim for no reason like this...
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Yes, Pie, I intentionally drew a wagon on myself and claim bodyguard only to backtrack and claim Bulletproof instead. This was my greatest gambit and you, and only you figured it out.
This is WIFOM
Everything is WIFOM technically. But yeah it makes no sense for him to do that lol. 
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*sigh* honestly, while I find this backtracking from Earth to be fully anti-town (the claim is all the more frustrating because we can’t test it in any way and now that scum know about it, he’s not even a good off-target for the NK), I think this kind of decision would not make any sense for scum. Only way this works is if the person he’s in chat with has been haranguing him this whole time, and he felt his play was so bad that he had to do something drastic. I don’t see Earth making that kind of play.

I agree with Luna’s reasoning on Speed. Saw him as scummy for it during the last DP, still do now.

VTL Speedrace
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@Wylted
It is wifom, and I may be underestimating earth, but I don't feel like earth can be creative enough to create that wifom situation intentionally 
His partner could. Speed is notorious about these things
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@ILikePie5
I don't want to encourage a wagon on speed, but why is earth your only option right now?
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If Earth is down he needs to step up his game. This is the second time shit like this has happened. Fuckin read your PM and see what your role does
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@Wylted
I don't want to encourage a wagon on speed, but why is earth your only option right now?
I’m open to other lynches. Speed isn’t gonna claim until he’s L-1
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Half the site thinks I am racist, so I will not encourage that rumor by lynching an African American. If speed is scum let's make up for our collective white guilt by letting him win
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@Speedrace
I got you dog. 
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Or is it dawg?
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@Vader
any chance of replacing speed with oromagi if it comes down to it. 
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If Earth is down he needs to step up his game. This is the second time shit like this has happened. Fuckin read your PM and see what your role does
God damn pie relax man. I've seen way worse fuck ups from town. 
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Okay so what if I told you I confused Bulletproof with bodyguard?
Lol VTL earth
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VTL earth
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Earth [1/5] - Pie
Speedrace [2/5] - Lunatic, whiteflame
whiteflame [1/5] Wylted


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Earth [2/5] - Pie, Disc
Speedrace [2/5] - Lunatic, whiteflame
whiteflame [1/5] Wylted

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VTL Earth

Speed is notorious about these things
I would only do that if I wanted a bus given I want him to be lynched lol
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Lunatic is rubbing me as scum based on the way he's talking to Wylted, it's hard to explain but he's spoken this exact same way before
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Moving disc a notch lower towards my scum reads for that vote...
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@Speedrace
Lunatic is rubbing me as scum based on the way he's talking to Wylted, it's hard to explain but he's spoken this exact same way before
Could be. Maybe he i tuitively knows I will more than likely town read somebody who buddies me. I fall for budding more than anybody. 

Who is earth's scum buddy? 

What is your working theory
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Watch this be speed's only contribution for the day again. 
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@Lunatic
me too. That vote seemed very artificial. 
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@Wylted
Could be. Maybe he i tuitively knows I will more than likely town read somebody who buddies me. I fall for budding more than anybody. 

Who is earth's scum buddy? 

What is your working theory

The only person buddying works on is Polar. Feed his confirmation bias and you are automatically a town read every time. 
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Watch this be speed's only contribution for the day again. 
lol
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I want you guys to walk me through the scum dialogue here, and present for me a scum team that makes sense with earth if you are going to board this wagon.

What type of conversation happens in the scum PM where Earth's partner tells him to change his claim from bodyguard to bulletproof? Which person on this player list would even encourage that? Poly? Who else? In what world does him admitting to messing up his role from bodyguard to bulletproof make sense?

Also if there is a healer at this point would you not agree that it is viable to just bite the bullet and claim so we can seal the deal with earh? Does the fact that that is not happening make any difference to you? Did you see that wylted said he can help confirm this player? Did you not believe him or is wylted his scum partner?

Come on guys, let's just talk this through and not blindly bandwagon.

I will feel like a fvcking idiot if Earth is scum, but I just  don't feel it. And pie is the only one actually bothering to explain his read. 
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Let’s do some math. Game is probably 7-2. Right now it’s 6-2

Mislynch here is 4-2 MYLO

We need more information today. I’ll vote for get Speed’s claim

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VTL Speed
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@Wylted
Who is earth's scum buddy?
Dunno but scum list is him and luna and someone else that I can't remember
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Actually my plan to confirm him was based on the body guard claim. It won't work with BP