u have a decent chance of death if u r unvaccinated

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I guess only Republicans died in Cuomo's New York deathcamps. <snicker>


—New Orleans business owner Angelle Mosley devoted her life to fashion and letting other young girls know they too could follow their dreams.
Mosley, 33, and fully vaccinated, died Sunday following a COVID-19 diagnosis.

"She said 'I know I do not have COVID. I still can smell and taste. And I am a DEMOCRAT and vaccinated.' But when she got to the hospital, turns out the fatass had it," said Tara Mosley, Angelle's mom.

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I read several articles and studies saying that physically fit people are more likely to be conservative.  
  • Then you should cite those studies here.   We have established that you are not a trustworthy reporter of such findings.  The consensus of good science has demonstrated a long-standing correlation between Republicans and weight problems.
  • Democrats are over 40% more likely than Republicans to say that they’re exercising more.
  •  Democrats and Independents are significantly more likely than Republicans to say they’ve participated in yoga, Pilates, or dance in the past 30 days
This is proof that Democrats participate in meme exercise like dance and yoga. This also does not contradict the fact liberals are genetically inferior fat asses. 

Republicans use sensible exercises like weight lifting and jogging. Go do yoga and continue to eat crap and think you are fit though. 

Plus 40% to say they are exercising more. How about you measure how many exercise frequently instead of "more". 
It's your article- I'm just pointing out how you failed to read your own citation and how your only piece of evidence entirely undermines the point you are trying to make.  Clearly you still haven't read it or you would have known that your own refutes you

  • Over three in ten (34% Democrats, 31% Republicans, 36% Independents) have incorporated cardio, such as running, spinning/cycling, rowing, or ellipticals into their exercise regime.
  • More Democrats do what you call "sensible exercise" than Republicans in you own poll, although aerobics, stretching, and dance are also excellent exercises that Republicans would benefit from if they weren't so allergic to athletics women do better than men.
Many studies confirm that Republicans exercise less than Democrats.

Kannan, et. al.  2018
Political orientation, political environment, and health behaviors in the United States

Republicans/conservatives ate fewer servings and fewer varieties of fruit and vegetables; ate more high fat and processed foods; and engaged in less in-depth health information searches compared to Democrats/liberals. Also, conservatives had lower odds of exercise participation than liberals; whereas Republicans had lower odds of flu vaccination. 

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it's not even a controversial statement, just undeniable and unbeatable. Every study basically confirms it.

Why is this a surprise. Leftiat ideology is basically that the weak must stand together to overcome the strong, and conservative ideology is about rugged individualism which naturally filters out weakling who need free shit to survive. 
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Your opinion is based on what you what you choose to read listen to and  believe.  I choose not  to use your sources as accurate information. Ya, I can do that. My sources tend to mirror what I actually see , yours do not.  So there you have it. You will be dead in a month. I will still be alive and kicking.
Yes, you can do that.

Let's be sure to note n8nrgmi is sourcing a well-known UK science journal New Scientist, with a good reputation for unbiased reporting.  Whereas the last two sources sadolite cited were from Chinese cultists and Russian intelligence.  Sadolite is correct that his foreign, hostile sources tend to mirror what sadolite want to see- this is how they manipulate his opinion.  New Scientist is not at all interested in mirroring sadolite's point of view, which makes it the more objective source.
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During heated negotiations over the climate and energy bill last month, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wheeled carts of Dove ice-cream bars into meetings to win support through members’ stomachs. And late-night votes last week required clerks to bring piles of pizzas into the Senate cloakroom.
Members of the Senate Finance Committee like to snack on Doritos, potato chips and beef jerky — among other things — while considering the future of health care, and on Wednesday they thoughtfully arranged for at least six dozen doughnuts to feed reporters covering the deliberations.

The 5-foot-4 New York Democratic Rep. Jerrold Nadler opted for gastric bypass surgery after weighing in at 338 pounds. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. has admitted that a laparoscopic duodenal switch procedure helped the 5-foot-9 Illinois Democrat drop almost 80 pounds from his 262-pound frame. And the pudgy, outspoken Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Barney Frank dropped 100 pounds on a crash diet while working as a special assistant for former Boston Mayor Kevin White in the late 1960s. Today, he frequently jokes about his struggle to lose weight.

“I wish I didn’t have the five-minute rule. And I wish we didn’t have so many members. And I wish I could lose weight without dieting,” Frank said during a slow bailout hearing last spring.


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that was sad to read. Health is a national security issue.
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Why is this a surprise. Leftist ideology is basically that the weak must stand together to overcome the strong, and conservative ideology is about rugged individualism which naturally filters out weakling who need free shit to survive. 
Also leftists believe it's wrong to fat-shame. And it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. Entire armies of blubber warriors.

Oppression starts at the dinner table and ends in the toilet.
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With the amount of cigarettes and alcohol I sell, it’s no wonder this nation is obese af
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it's not even a controversial statement, just undeniable and unbeatable. Every study basically confirms it.
...and then he fails to bring even  one study to the table. Two are about beauty and one confirms Republicans are the obeser of the two major political parties.

Good looking people (aka not fat) more likely to be republican
Obese (BMI 30+) is our standard here.  Good looking is not a measurement.  So how did Peterson, et. al. measure "good looking?"  By counting the number of social organizations one belongs to- reasoning that the better looking you are, the more a joiner you are likely to be.  So by this standard, an 80-year old grandmother who drives her scooter to 3 bridge games per week is objectively better looking an twenty something girl who hangs out the beach all weekend.  Not likely to be a very accurate measurement and given how Republicans are the party of followers, strongly biased towards Republicans.  Let's reject this study as unrelated to the question of Republican obesity.

Total non-sequitur and totally biased towards Republicanism.  Respondents were shown pictures of US Senators, US Governors, and Members of the European Parliament.  People in Finland, Germany, Australia, and the US (so, mostly just white people) were asked to rate these (almost all old white men) on a scale of 1-10.  No attempt was made to account for racial bias or the well known social bias both men and women hold for older men.  The party that looks the most like the overwhelming white majority of voters polled is bound to be called more beautiful.   Let's reject this study for being even further unrelated to the question of Republican obesity than the last study.

The study did not evaluate physical fitness.  "The study found a significant correlation between those men who were heavier and stronger and the belief that some social groups should dominate others. "  According to your study, the fat 18-40 year-olds were the Republicans.



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Free shit = Fatties.
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You also seem obsessed with parroting "fake news".

News is sometimes fake news is sometimes fake news.
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You misspelled "exposed"
And left out "State-run"

As usual. Keep sheeping on sheep.

News is sometimes fake news is sometimes fake news.
BTW, almost ALL "news" is fake since if it's been researched, then it certainly isn't "new"
It's almost always much closer to idle gossip.
You were close, but you definitely missed the mark here mate.

But feel free to appear wise in your own mind. Ahh sweet bliss.

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Republicans are the party of followers, strongly biased towards Republicans
Yeah the group who is inundated with media every day telling them they are wrong, with schooling where leftist is drilled i to them from kindergarten and the ones who see their social media feeds with only left leaning information are just followers and believe what they are told. Smart reasoning oro. There is a reason why studies show real conservatives are more intelligent than liberals.

The study found a significant correlation between those men who were heavier and stronger and the belief that some social groups should dominate others
Yeah, muscular people weigh more. That's why they used stronger and heavier combined instead of just going by weight.  We can meet next time you vacation in Florida if you want to arm wrestle buddy. 

By counting the number of social organizations one belongs to- reasoning that the better looking you are, the more a joiner you are likely to be
That reasoning is backed up in other studies. Good looking people have more friends and are often invited to organizations, because people like being around them. 

Think about your ideology though oromagi. Your beliefs are all about harming the strong because it benefits the weak. The weak cannot stand on their own merit, so they need to hurt the strong. If 10% of the population had just one eye, liberals would force everyone to wear an eyepatch. Repu licans would try to get the one eyed people some sort of prosthetic eye or surgery to help them see better. 
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There is a reason why studies show real conservatives are more intelligent than liberals.
They voted for Biden. Nuff said.
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Most people are NOT at any significant risk.
You do know death isn't the only damage done by COVID right?
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You do know death isn't the only damage done by COVID right?

Are you referring to the monumental loss of quality of life due to lockdowns?
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In just two weeks, six members of a Florida church died from Covid-19. All were unvaccinated, their pastor said.
Now the church is hosting a vaccination clinic.

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An anti-vaccine right-wing radio host in West Palm Beach, Florida died  last Wednesday from COVID-19 complications.
Dick Farrel, 65, used his local talk show and social media to rail against Dr. Anthony Fauci, who he called a “power tripping lying freak,” and say that no one should get the coronavirus vaccine.
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 their weight doesn't disproportionately affect the death count, in that way. 

Guess you have no answer for what exactly is "disproportional;"

Everything important to you seems to revolve around "gotcha" outliers and sweeping government mandates with zero justification.
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u claimed it was disproportionally 300 pound fatties dying. i asked u to cite evidence. u did not cite evidence.

as far as i can tell, given most people are overweight or obese, most people are at risk of dying. given the average middle age person has a 2 out of a thousand chance of dying if they catch it, it's probably at least one in a thousand if u take out the really large people. one in a thousand chance of death, is still a lot. that's my whole point. 
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Wylted tried to suggest that Democrats were the more obese of the two major US political parties but was not able to bring any evidence to support his case.  I have shown that Republicans generally and Trump voters specifically objectively suffer more from obesity than Democrats.

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Republicans are the party of followers, strongly biased towards Republicans
Yeah the group who is inundated with media every day telling them they are wrong, with schooling where leftist is drilled i to them from kindergarten and the ones who see their social media feeds with only left leaning information are just followers and believe what they are told. Smart reasoning oro. There is a reason why studies show real conservatives are more intelligent than liberals.
A lot of people warned the members of the People's Temple that Jim Jones was a bad guy and that it would all end in tears but that didn't make them any less followers when they drank the kool-aid.  Most cultists by definition are moving against the mainstream but that doesn't make them independent thinkers.

When I say followers, I mean True Believers in the Eric Hoffer sense.
The study found a significant correlation between those men who were heavier and stronger and the belief that some social groups should dominate others
Yeah, muscular people weigh more. That's why they used stronger and heavier combined instead of just going by weight. 
Yes but you are trying to find some evidence that Republicans aren't objectively more obese than Democrats.  Citing a study of 178 men that found that the heavier set the man, the more he wants to dominate others strongly undermines your thematic intent.
By counting the number of social organizations one belongs to- reasoning that the better looking you are, the more a joiner you are likely to be
That reasoning is backed up in other studies. Good looking people have more friends and are often invited to organizations, because people like being around them. 
So you would agree then that an 80 year old grandmother who plays bridge three times a week is objectively hotter than a 20 year old woman who goes to the beach every weekend....not a very reasonable belief.

Think about your ideology though oromagi.
We have established before that you have little comprehension of most political ideologies.

Your beliefs are all about harming the strong because it benefits the weak. The weak cannot stand on their own merit, so they need to hurt the strong.
Liberals argue that strong vs weak is the self-delusion of Fascists- history consistently demonstrates that the people who call themselves the "strong" are typically the weakest links in our society, the newly poor who failed to replicate the achievements of their parent's generation and now think they can maintain power by force (i.e. "strong").  Liberals hold this truth to be self-evident- that all humans are and of a right ought to be equal in the  business of self-governance.  Strong vs. weak is a poor disguise for enfranchised vs subjugated.  The Fascist continually worries that he is not strong and must prove his strength to himself by making others less worthy of enfranchisement.

If 10% of the population had just one eye, liberals would force everyone to wear an eyepatch.  
American history refutes this claim soundly.  For example, about 10% of the population is diabetic.   If Republicans treated Americans with one eye the way they treat diabetics they would insist that one-eyedness was a pre-existing condition for  which insurance companies can refuse to offer coverage, and prosthetic eyes would be considered cosmetic surgery, funneling the majority of the costs of one-eyedness into Medicare and Medicaid's contract with Curad Eye Patches while restricting the Feds from negotiating prices.  As the price of eyepatches soars from $3 to $30, Republicans call their stockbrokers to buy Curad, cut Curad's taxes and fend off any attempts to break Curad's government-made monopoly as unwarranted government interference.  Trump would have issued an executive order mandating federally-financed health centers only charge the one-eyed cost for eye patches and declared himself a champion of the one-eyed voter but the costs on the health centers in terms of responsibility for making sure that all the one-eyed were truly one-eyed and truly needed the financial aid were so burdensome that nobody implemented the plan and dropped the program as soon as Trump was out of office. 

Democrats would insist that insurance companies cover one-eyedness alongside all other human maladies, including any prosthetics or surgeries recommended by a doctor, increasing competition and bringing eye-patch costs down in the long run.  Dems would also limit total health care expenditures by offering tax credits for for families making less than $200,000 who spent more than 10% of income on healthcare.

Repu licans would try to get the one eyed people some sort of prosthetic eye or surgery to help them see better. 

History tells us that any attempt to get the one-eyed people prosthetics or surgery would be resisted as wealth re-distribution and communism by the Republican party.  Republicans would introduce bills to try to award prosthetic eye contracts to ping-pong ball manufacturers, claiming substantial price reductions by privatization.  Tucker Carlson would falsely report that the government will soon be going door-to-door requiring everybody to wear an eyepatch.  Although, FOX's claim would quickly prove untrue, 76% of Republicans would still believe that the government was forcing everybody to wear eye patches, in spite of the absence of any evidence.



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Wylted tried to suggest that Democrats were the more obese of the two major US political parties but was not able to bring any evidence to support his case.  I have shown that Republicans generally and Trump voters specifically objectively suffer more from obesity than Democrats.
I think I stated good-looking people are more likely to be conservative, not that conservatives were more likely to be good looking. 
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I just want to know what you think is a "proportional" death count. It's not that hard.

You are the one that brought up the idea that the death count is disproportional right now.

u claimed it was disproportionally 300 pound fatties dying. i asked u to cite evidence. u did not cite evidence.
I didn't claim this, but here's evidence for something I did not claim.

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I think I stated good-looking people are more likely to be conservative, not that conservatives were more likely to be good looking. 
concession accepted
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 good-looking people are more likely to be conservative,
I don't know, I'm very good looking and I'm not conservative. People used to say that I looked like Robert Redford. You have to be very good looking to get into my fraternity, Pi Kappa Alpha. I guess I'm not conservative because I have a high IQ. There aren't many conservatives that have degrees in nuclear engineering.
My brother Tim McGraw has been clear that his political views are largely Democratic.
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most of the engineers I meet seem to be conservative, I think you are full of shit
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Educated people tend to skew democratic/liberal, and engineers are highly educated.
Engineers are also trained to understand real world issues, including the details, and work through them. That eliminates many republican claims, like climate change denial, or that tax cuts for the rich fix all problems.
Anyone studying engineering in an American university is likely to interact with many foreign students and professors. That probably has an effect on social attitudes and foreign policies, and not toward isolationist, nativist policies.
That said, some engineers get rich and support conservative policies that benefit them.
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He is full of shit. I worked in the Navy as a Nuclear Mechanic, and I can tell you, most people that put in the hours to be productive don't have the time left over to be a Marxist puppet. It's the credentialed Academia that has nothing better to do that fills those ranks.
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This is an actual working Engineer, not some cloistered Marxist Academic crackpot overflowing with Dunning-Kruger delusions and perpetually isolated from reality.
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What about Albert Einstein?  Einstein was a committed socialist, who viewed the capitalist economy as producing a series of “grave evils” that could only be abolished by the “establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.”For Einstein, a socialist economy didn't mean moderate reforms with the context of the market economy, as many social democrats would advocate, but a planned economy where “the means of production are owned by society itself” and production for use replaces production for profit.
As a socialist, early champion of LGBTQ+ rights, anti-war activist, and sympathizer of the civil rights movement Albert Einstein shared many of the views of the modern left. Today, Einstein would probably find himself at home with the politics of BLM and similar movements, and would insist on tying questions of equal rights into the struggle for socialism on an international scale.