u have a decent chance of death if u r unvaccinated

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of course this boils down to what is 'decent'.

just look at the amount of deaths and how many people live in the usa. 640000 dead divided by 333333333 living people = 2 in a thousand people have died, and the pandemic isn't even over yet. 

here is more data....

"For all these reasons, reported infection fatality rates have varied. To get a better estimate, Brazeau and his team looked at 175 studies, finding just 10 they regarded as reliable. They adjusted for confounding factors and calculated the death rate for each age group, including 0 per cent for under 4s, less than 0.1 per cent for people under 40, 0.36 per cent if 50 to 54, 2.17 if 70 to 74, 5 per cent if 80 to 84 and 16 per cent for those over 90."

to put these numbers in perspective, if u r under 40, u have a one in a thosuand chance of death if u get the virus. if you are in your 40s u have probably about two or three deaths in a thousand.

they say with the delta variant, everyone will come in contact with the virus at some point. r u sure u wanna have a two in a thosuand chance of death for the average middle age person? 
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Americans being fat and gelatinous creatures does not help. 
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Wylted is actually 100% correct here, one study says that obesity is a key driver in covid deaths-https://khn.org/morning-breakout/obesity-is-key-driver-of-a-nations-covid-death-toll-global-study-finds/

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Not being young or thin puts you at a significant risk for death. Great deduction there Sherlock...

just look at the amount of deaths and how many people live in the usa. 
You really need to stop with these threads that ascribe the same death risk of an unvaccinated 300 pound fatty with an unvaccinated schoolchild.

We get enough fake news from state media.
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most people have health problems like blood pressure and cholesterol, or are overweight or obese. my stats refer to the average, and the average person fits those health criteria. maybe ya'll are thin and healthy. good for you. for the large majority of everyone else, the fact remains that there's a decent chance of death if you are unvaccinated. 
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my stats refer to the average
So what? The average means absolutely nothing to a specific person. The average person doesn't believe fake news as only 29% do. 

Why are you obsessed with parroting fake news?

the fact remains that there's a decent chance of death if you are unvaccinated. 
You're not the authority to declare all people at risk when most people are not at any significant risk. Especially kids.

You really don't know just how overblown with ridiculous hyperbole the state media has made Covid out to be, and most importantly, WHY they exaggerated. That's a real shame.
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"You're not the authority to declare all people at risk when most people are not at any significant risk. Especially kids."

that's the point of averages. most people are at risk, if you consider the average middle aged person your criteria. u r factually incorrect. 

even those in their twenties and thirties might have around a one in a thosuand chance of death, on average. but even if you are young and healthy, there's a chance of death in not getting the shot, and next to no chance of death if you do get the shot. 

why does your politics always influence your science and not other way around? 
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most people are at risk
Most people are NOT at any significant risk. People under 50 have such a ridiculously low chance of dying from Covid it's absolutely laughable. 

And I hate to break the news to you but most people in America are under 50 and are less than 300 pounds. That's an undisputable fact.

why does your politics always influence your science and not other way around? 
Because you constantly parrot state media and peddle it off as science.

Like I said before, only 29% of people trust the numbers and science coming from State Media, so you are the weirdo here and not the normal, average American.
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my stats refer to the average. whatever is average is "most". u keep saying 'most', but it contradicts the average. of course it boils down to whether one thinks that two in a thousand chance of death is 'sifniciant', but that doesn't sound like something worth foolin around with, and i think most people would agree with me, if they really looked at the data and were honest. 
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 if they really looked at the data and were honest. 
If a smart person looked at the data, they would exclude outliers like people over 50 and over 300 pounds.
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i would need a source that it's mostly fat people over 300 pounds. most people are over weight or obese... that's risk enough. the average person is middle age. again, my stats refer to the average,and this is all of an average nature.
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most people have health problems like blood pressure and cholesterol, or are overweight or obese. my stats refer to the average, and the average person fits those health criteria. maybe ya'll are thin and healthy. good for you. for the large majority of everyone else, the fact remains that there's a decent chance of death if you are unvaccinated. 
Stop trying to fight evolution. 
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i would need a source that it's mostly fat people over 300 pounds.
Since you are one of the 29 percenter weirdos, it's unlikely you have the capacity to research.
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Averages are not a reliable indicator for the majority outcome within a population.  I'll demonstrate with a set of five numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 90.  Taking the average, we add 1+2+3+4+90 and then divide by the number of samples, 5.  The average turns out to be 100/5 which is 20.  Now if you examine the samples, it turns out that 20 is not close enough to be particularly representative of anything found in 1, 2, 3, 4, or 90.  For this set of numbers, the vast majority are significantly less than average.



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Is that why the Republicans are all dying of COVID, because they are all  morbidly obese?  I thought that was just God weighing in.
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That is a form of hate speech towards Republicans. You're relishing in them dying...
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A Texas Republican leader who was hospitalized with COVID-19 died Wednesday, just days after he shared a post on social media questioning the effectiveness of the coronavirus vaccine.
The Galveston County Republican Party said Wednesday morning that Scott Apley, a member of the State Republican Executive Committee and Dickinson City Council, had died.
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u r the one making claims with no sources. it's not my duty to find evidence for you, that probably doesnt even exist. plus u r denying science. sounds like u r the one unable to do research. 
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we know most people are overweight and obese, though, and we know those are the ones most at risk, even with just the information in this thread we can make that determination. if someone wants to claim there's a bunch of 300 pound fatties bringin up the average, they have to cite a source, they can't just make sh*t up. 
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https://dailyburn.com › lifestyle
Democrats Eat their Feelings 50% More than Republicans - Life by Daily Burn

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also a bunch of 300 pound fatties won't bring up the average death stat, insofar as one morbidly obese person is still just one morbidly obese person. their weight doesn't disproportionately affect the death count, in that way. 
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yes we all know fat people make up most of the cases. i've established that the average person is fat. you haven't established that it's disproportionately morbidly obese people dying. 
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 their weight doesn't disproportionately affect the death count, in that way. 

What would be a "proportional death count?"

about 4 million babies are born every year and about 3 million people die every year in America.

Would you say that any death count over 4 million would be "disproportional???"

Cause Covid didn't bring the death count anywhere near that number for 2020.
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yes we all know fat people make up most of the cases.

It's fat plus old. Fat kids are not dying mr. 29 percenter.
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https://dailyburn.com › lifestyle
Democrats Eat their Feelings 50% More than Republicans - Life by Daily Burn
From your article

  • Democrats are over 40% more likely than Republicans to say that they’re exercising more.
  •  Democrats and Independents are significantly more likely than Republicans to say they’ve participated in yoga, Pilates, or dance in the past 30 days
An, et. al.  2018
Obesity Prevalence and Voting Behaviors in the 2016 US Presidential Election

A quadratic association was found between county-level obesity rate and the vote margin for the Republican Party presidential candidate-the margin increased when obesity rate increased from 11.8% to 34.1%, but after reaching its peak of 36.1%, it started to decrease when obesity rate further increased to 47.9%

Shin, et. al, 2015
The association between county political inclination and obesity: Results from the 2012 presidential election in the United States

We found that higher county-level obesity prevalence rates were associated with higher levels of support for the 2012 Republican Party presidential candidate.

Bor, 2017
Diverging Life Expectancies and Voting Patterns in the 2016 US Presidential Election

Changes in county life expectancy from 1980 to 2014 were strongly negatively associated with Trump's vote share, with less support for Trump in counties experiencing greater survival gains. Counties in which life expectancy stagnated or declined saw a 10-percentage-point increase in the Republican vote share between 2008 and 2016.  Residents of counties left out from broader life expectancy gains abandoned the Democratic Party in the 2016 presidential election.  Health gaps likely will continue to widen without significant public investment in population health

STATES by OBESITY

  1. Mississippi 40.8%
  2. West Virginia 39.7%
  3. Arkansas 37.4%
  4. Oklahoma 36.8%
  5. Kentucky 36.5%
  6. Tennessee 36.5%
  7. Alabama 36.1%
  8. Michigan 36.0%
  9. Louisiana 35.9%
  10. South Carolina 35.4%

     40. Oregon 29.0%
     41.  Montana 28.3%
     42. Washington 28.3%
     43. New York 27.1%
     44. Florida 27.0%
     45. Vermont 26.6%
     46. California 26.2%
     47. Massachusetts 25.2%
     48. Hawaii 25.0%
     49. Colorado 23.8%
     50. District of Columbia 23.8%






















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Your opinion is based on what you what you choose to read listen to and  believe.  I choose not  to use your sources as accurate information. Ya, I can do that. My sources tend to mirror what I actually see , yours do not.  So there you have it. You will be dead in a month. I will still be alive and kicking.
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Your opinion is based on what you what you choose to read listen to and  believe.  I choose not  to use your sources as accurate information. Ya, I can do that. My sources tend to mirror what I actually see , yours do not.  So there you have it. You will be dead in a month. I will still be alive and kicking.
You don't appear to be a member of the 29% radical fringe group that trust state-run media.
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I read several articles and studies saying that physically fit people are more likely to be conservative.  

  • Democrats are over 40% more likely than Republicans to say that they’re exercising more.
  •  Democrats and Independents are significantly more likely than Republicans to say they’ve participated in yoga, Pilates, or dance in the past 30 days
This is proof that Democrats participate in meme exercise like dance and yoga. This also does not contradict the fact liberals are genetically inferior fat asses. 

Republicans use sensible exercises like weight lifting and jogging. Go do yoga and continue to eat crap and think you are fit though. 

Plus 40% to say they are exercising more. How about you measure how many exercise frequently instead of "more". 
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A 17-year-old Georgia high school football player died of COVID-19 complications after he was sent home twice by the hospital where he sought care, according to the teenager’s parents.
Tyler Fairley, a student-athlete at Douglas County High School west of Atlanta, succumbed to the disease on Aug. 1 just over a week after testing positive for the virus. He did not receive a COVID-19 vaccine.