being murdered at the rate of over 600,000 per year in America.
Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.So you want a biblical Christian ethic to be the foundation of our society?
WHY DID GOD MAKE SO FEW GOOD (CHOSEN PEOPLE) HUMANS AND SO MANY BAD HUMANS ?I MEAN, GOD DID DECIDE TO WIPE OUT NOAH'S NEIGHBORS AND THE TWIN CITIES OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH, WHY NOT INTERVENE NOW ?
They care significantly less, especially about "illegal" immigrants.
Why prioritize "in america" ?
Also, if you want to "save lives" you get much more efficient results investing in mosquito nets and clean water systems.
Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.So you want a biblical Christian ethic to be the foundation of our society?And you don't ?
Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.So you want a biblical Christian ethic to be the foundation of our society?And you don't ?I do. But if you support abortion, you do not.
You included "the Law and the Prophets," which is a specific reference to the Old Testament. The Old Testament predates early Confucianism, particularly Leviticus where the first reference to the Golden Rule is found.
I don't want anyone telling me what I can or cannot do with things INSIDE MY OWN BODY.THEREFORE, I will not tell anyone else what they can or cannot do with things with things INSIDE THEIR OWN BODIES.It's a matter of jurisdiction.If a stranger wanders into my house, I can kick them out on the street.THEREFORE, if I wander into someone else's house, I can be kicked out on the street.
In other words, the golden rule IS the Law.
And I'm super impressed that Abraham was able to write the old testament and email it to the pharaohs of egypt and the emperors of ancient china.
Is this derived from a biblical Christian ethic, or your personal opinion?
In other words, the golden rule IS the Law.Do you believe that Jesus' statement here somehow abolished the 10 Commandments?
And I'm super impressed that Abraham was able to write the old testament and email it to the pharaohs of egypt and the emperors of ancient china.Well Abraham didn't have email. But can you think of any way that the teachings of Israel could have been seen or heard by the Egyptians? We're the Israelites in contact with Egypt for any length of time around the time of Moses?
It's the same responsibility that the sex participants have to a late-stage fetus, an early-stage newborn, a pre-pubescent teen, etc. Namely, don't murder it.
God is not culpable for my bad decisions. Do you blame others for your bad decisions?
Do you ever eat meat and dairy products in the same meal ?Do you ever wear fabrics that are made from more than one material ?Do you ever cut the hair that falls in front of your ears ?
I have trouble believing the egyptians had no basic sense of fairness before Abraham showed up.
Why is murder wrong, and how does the answer to this question apply to an early stage fetus?
But more importantly, you believe God is all powerful and all knowing… therefore not only does he have the power to nullify sin and not only is he the only reason sin is a “problem” in the first place, but it also means he created each of us already knowing what we would do and chose this version of reality over any other he could have picked from. So if he is real then your sin was actually his choice, not yours.
Simply put, ending the life of another human unjustly is wrong because you that person is an image-bearer of God.
God cannot "nullify" sin because a just God cannot let sin go unpunished.
But why is God obligated to create a reality in which people don't sin?
Until you can demonstrate that a God exists this argument is irrelevant. Do you have an argument against abortion not based in your religious faith?
If he’s all powerful then he can do whatever he wants.
And I thought God was supposed to be merciful? Whatever happened to that?
And you still haven’t addressed the point here… why is it wrong to sin? Wrong says who?
How are you claiming he is not responsible for what happens within a system that he created?
I have trouble believing the egyptians had no basic sense of fairness before Abraham showed up.You are jumping between meanings of the phrase "golden rule." If you are referring to the teaching of Jesus, it does not just mean being fair or being nice. If you are referring to the concept of being nice that most people understand, that is not a biblical understanding of "love your neighbor as yourself."
Do you love your neighbor as yourself? If so, why do you reject the other commands like wearing fabrics of multiple materials? Sounds like your picking and choosing...
Why is murder wrong, and how does the answer to this question apply to an early stage fetus?Simply put, ending the life of another human unjustly is wrong because you that person is an image-bearer of God. The early-stage fetus is a life. The majority of abortions are done because the people engaging in sex don't want the responsibility of parenthood. That is not a just reason to kill a child, no matter what stage it is in.
God cannot "nullify" sin because a just God cannot let sin go unpunished.
Simply put, ending the life of another human unjustly is wrong because you that person is an image-bearer of God.Until you can demonstrate that a God exists this argument is irrelevant. Do you have an argument against abortion not based in your religious faith?
And I thought God was supposed to be merciful? Whatever happened to that?
If he’s all powerful then he can do whatever he wants.You have created a definition of "omnipotent" that I reject and is contradictory to the Bible, and you are trying to refute that created definition.
The admonishment "love your neighbor as yourself" is functionally indistinguishable from "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is functionally indistinguishable from "treat your fellows with fairness"."Treat others with fairness" is completely different than "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
Do you follow all the old testament laws, or do you cherry-pick the ones you like ?
Would you say that deportation = murder ?
If I created a planet and I genetically engineered plants and animals to live on that planet and I programmed the reproductive and other survival instincts of those animals and then, at some point, those animals went haywire and started killing each other like crazy.
The admonishment "love your neighbor as yourself" is functionally indistinguishable from "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is functionally indistinguishable from "treat your fellows with fairness"."Treat others with fairness" is completely different than "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
Do you follow all the old testament laws, or do you cherry-pick the ones you like ?Of course I don't follow all the Old Testament laws. But I know why I pick and choose.
The difference is that you pick and choose but you don't know why. You didn't answer the question:Do you love your neighbor as yourself? If so, why do you reject the other commands like wearing fabrics of multiple materials?
Would you say that deportation = murder ?Depending on how you define deportation, no.
If I created a planet and I genetically engineered plants and animals to live on that planet and I programmed the reproductive and other survival instincts of those animals and then, at some point, those animals went haywire and started killing each other like crazy.Did God create humans as automatons?
"Treat others with fairness" is completely different than "In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."How exactly ?
The difference is that you pick and choose but you don't know why. You didn't answer the question:Do you love your neighbor as yourself? If so, why do you reject the other commands like wearing fabrics of multiple materials?It's strange that you would presume to know the contents of my mind.I treat my neighbor like I treat all humans, not necessarily with "love" but with fairness and respect.
You know why you pick and choose ?Can you perhaps link to some source that supports your cherry-picking ?I've quite honestly been trying to find a coherent moral theory of the old testament ever since I was a small child (when my questions were ignored).
Would you say that deportation = murder ?Depending on how you define deportation, no.Let's say some people show up at the border of your country and say that they are fleeing for their very lives.You ask them to present evidence, and they only have eye-witness-testimony (which is considered solid-gold in a civil court).You tell them they need better evidence, like corroborating testimony and or photographs or video or something.They don't have any evidence other than their own eyes and ears.So you reject their application and send them back to where they came from.AND THEN THEY ARE MUTILATED AND OR KILLED.It almost seems like "murder" to me.
Did god design and program the reproductive and other survival instincts of humans and animals ?
Forget about god for a second.Would you blame me if something I made catastrophically malfunctioned ?
I am extremely impressed with your rhetorical skill and tenacity.
