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I literally can't think of any reason a LD Oro needs my wincon when I already gave him plenty of statements he can use unless Lunatic created an useless LD.
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UNVOTE

VTL EARTH
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so- we are still waiting for Polyglot but of the 9 wincon's reported,

  • Earth has essentially refused to state his wincon
  • Supa duplicated DrBro's wincon last night but says today his wincon should read "you are team town"
  • Wylted's is interesting because it comes right after Earth says his wincon is something like "vanilla townie"   Earth comes back a few minutes later to correct it to "something like" vanilla town.  In the interval, wylted (who's been on all day but hasn't volunteered wincon before this) jumps in with a wincon that also says "townie"- "you are a townie who wins with town" redundant, a little flip, but also the only wincon using townie.  Is it possible that Wylted was trying to rescue Earth here, by adding another townie claim?  A few minutes later, Wylted is VTL'ing poly for not claiming although Earth's existing is manifestly more scummy
  • Whiteflame gets points for responding directly and quickly although he uses the most claim- which could have just been informed risk-taking.  Still, I am inclined to buy this wincon.

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@Earth
I literally can't think of any reason a LD Oro needs my wincon when I already gave him plenty of statements he can use unless Lunatic created an useless LD.

It’s literally only you refuses to provide a clear cut answer on wtf is in your PM. For everyone else it took a minute to copy and paste it. There’s literally zero harm in doing so. Fulfill his curiosity.
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I will give my wincon - again- if Oro answers this question.

"Why does LD need my wincon when they can just check anything that would prove I am town?"
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  • Earth has essentially refused to state his wincon
  • Supa duplicated DrBro's wincon last night but says today his wincon should read "you are team town"
Supa town reads Earth. Weird huh.
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Town will lose because they stupidly focused on dumb shit and not behavior. Right now, mafia is coasting.

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@Earth
you haven't said why a LD can't just check any statement that proves I'm town.
because the lie detector role, and similar functions, only operate on a true false basis.

When you say "something like x"  it could still conceal deception
when you just say "yes" to Pie's prompting, it can't be true/false'd
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@Earth
Town will lose because they stupidly focused on dumb shit and not behavior. Right now, mafia is coasting.
If you’re a towny you do what the town freakin says lmao. Right now if you’re town you’re gonna cost us a lynch just because you can’t copy paste a sentence 
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So what you are saying is that it detects true/false things, like if I said "My username is dickassfuck", it would mark it as false?
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@Earth
Town will lose because they stupidly focused on dumb shit and not behavior. Right now, mafia is coasting.

why shouldn't the most defensive obstinate and guarded player in the game not be prioritized as most likely to mafia?
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@Earth
So what you are saying is that it detects true/false things, like if I said "My username is dickassfuck", it would mark it as false?

it would report it the LIE DETECTOR role as a false result, yes
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Because mafia wouldn't be this obstinate. Is this a serious question?
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Because mafia wouldn't be this obstinate. Is this a serious question?
yes, scum frequently lose their composure when under fire.  I know I always have trouble staying cool when I am scum.
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@oromagi
I gave you such a statement in #325.
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@Earth
Lie Detectors are extremely rare. Actually, you know what?
VTL Oro
Why DO you care so much about wincons? Is it because you are a Lie Detector and need people's wincon? Even so, as a LD, you don't need their wincon. All you need something to the affect of "I am town." 

I am Town. There. Now you have a line for you to get me on.
So you are stating that the win condition Lunatic gave you read "I am Town" verbatim?
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@Earth
verbatim means exact- no change in pronoun or verb conjugation  "I am Town"
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@oromagi
Now who is being obstinate? If you are LD, you can just check post #325. You must be mafia. You weren't like this in past games. Purposely taking posts out of context?
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Earth, I don't like PM analysis either, but tuf has gave everyone different win cons and we all basically just copy and pasted them. I copy and pasted mine and thought it was the exact same as oro's until he pointed out the difference.  

You are hurting your team. If you are scum, your stubborn behavior has caused you to abandon your team mates by being lynched. If you are town, same thing

Unvote vtl earth


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->@oromagi
Now who is being obstinate? If you are LD, you can just check post #325. You must be mafia. You weren't like this in past games. Purposely taking posts out of context?
I have cut & pasted POST #325 into post #346 with a request for clarification.  Please clarify.
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You are a vanilla town member.

That is my wincon.
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okay now that, that 9s cleared up can we lynch poly like I have been trying to do since the first page of this thread

Unvote VTL poly
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I will re-iterate that Earth's nickname is "The Lunatik"  perhaps inconsequential but in a game where the mod stated "This theme was the basis of my DDO username" having the same nickname as the moderator could be a thematic indicator.
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I LITERALLY claimed back in 270 and 273. All you needed to do was look back. Why are you like this.
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@Earth
You are a vanilla town member.

That is my wincon.
Thanks for that.
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Thats nonsensical if we don't know the theme.
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WINCON                                                                                                         JUSTIFICATION                                                       NICKNAME

Whiteflame     "you win with the town"                                                doesn't think justf. useful                         *
drlebronksi        "you are town"                                                                 *                                                                           *
greyparrot        "I'm a member of the town"                                        Zak Jensen's bully                                  The Hammer
Supa                       "you are town"   (2nd)                                              *                                                                           *
                               CC'd= "you are team town"
Earth                          " You are a vanilla town member"                                                                                              The Lunatik
Wylted       "You are a townie who wins with the town"                      asks for everybody else's justf.
iLikePie5  "You are aligned with those that win with the town"    no good justf.
Polyglot                                                                                                                 Held cage, said didn't                          The Nigerian Nightmare
MisterChris     "you are affiliated with the town"                                   good justf.                                                The Crippler
Oromagi            "you are a town member"                                               no good justf.                                            Nitrane 


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Can you fix your list? I can't read that shit.
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"It's a cage fight. It doesn't require a ton of thought."

Oro- 1 /6- poly
Wylted- 1/6- MisterChris
Greyparrot- 1/ 6-  drlebronski
polyglot- 1/6- wylted
Earth- 4/6- iLikePie5, oro, earth, greyparrot


Not Voting:  supa, whiteflame

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I think we should note that since Earth's purported wincon seems to reveal his ROLE ( I assume), he may have had some additional cause for resistance.