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Not meaning to boast or nothing.  bbbbbbbbbbbbbut. 
I use to be pretty darn good at casting and directing  prayers back in the days. 
So.

I challenge yassine to a " prayer off " 

Who has better aim?
Three prayers at mecca each.   
Normal rules.  
So the Middle of the front door being bullseye. 

I have my first prayer lined up so i will " throw first " 

ANDDDDD.  SENT.  


MISSED. 
( 142 yards to the left )     NO WAY I MISSED BY THAT MUCH.  

Oh wow. That was way off.  
That was probably one of my most poorly directed prayers ive ever prayed. 

Alright yassine. 
You are up. 
GOOD LUCK.
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........PRAYER RECEIVED. ....

WTF

No way. 
That prayer was  140 yards off and it still registered.   
That works with my argument that you can be facing the total opposite direction to mecca and still have your prayed received / heard. 

 
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@Bones
Democracy is a terrible government system
God Is (exists)
Let's get these two on the road. Shall I initiate them? 
- What are the parameters, rules, definitions...etc? I'd much rather debate the Islam related topics there though. 

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I would debate yassine about ill directed  prayer. ..  

I say a prayer / or praise prayed at 180 ° ( OFF ) mecca does exactly the same as prayer directly directed at mecca . 
No difference. 

Picture a prayer to allah narrowly missing mecca . 
Like just missing.  
- I believe you should be Muslim first before we can get any further into this.
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@Yassine
That's the conclusion. How do you establish that? At this point you lost the debate, as you made a bare assertion.
The original copy of her book exists and you can look at it and compare it with the copy you bought at Barnes and Noble
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@Incel-chud
The original copy of her book exists and you can look at it and compare it with the copy you bought at Barnes and Noble
- How do you know that alleged original copy is preserved verbatim from Rand's words? I could just as easily dismiss your assertions, there is nothing compelling me to believe in claimed perfect preservation.

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@Yassine
How do you know that alleged original copy is preserved verbatim from Rand's words? I could just as easily dismiss your assertions, there is nothing compelling me to believe in claimed perfect preservation.
She literally typed them up. This is a retarded round of questions. I could ask the same questions, about muhhamed, but won't because it is a retarded line of quesyioning

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@Incel-chud
She literally typed them up.
- Maybe she did maybe she didn't. How do you know? You're not actually providing any reasons to believe in the authenticity of your book. 


I could ask the same questions
- Or we can have a debate instead.
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@Yassine
I should become a Muslim  first you say. 

That's a Fair call. 
 And it just so happens yassine that.   ( I TOO LIKE TO LIVE LIFE DANGEROUSLY  )
I accept.  

Ok . Becoming a Muslim.  
Becoming a Muslim. How does one become a Muslim ? 
 O thats right, its much the same as becoming a Christian.   

So lets try this. 
 
And BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAMMMMM . 
Insta Muslim . 

Well I'll be. 
Thats easy .  Ya just have to say .  " I'm  a Muslim  " 
EXACTLY  like the christians. 

I am literary changing to and fro christian to Muslim by mealy thinking about saying. 
I'm a Muslim. 
Or I'm a Christian.  

Yassine.?  
So i  said in my head   (  I AM NOW A MUSLIM  ) 
This makes me officially a Muslim correct. ?

I know i don't have to but.  
To make it beyond questionable that i am now a Muslim.   
i will say it out loud ok,
Ok did. 
 
yassine give me 15 mins  to try this out for a bit and i will get back to you. 

What a trip.
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@Yassine
Maybe she did maybe she didn't. How do you know? You're not actually providing any reasons to believe in the authenticity of your book. 

I knew this would get retarded fast. We have the original manuscript still. 
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@Incel-chud
I knew this would get retarded fast. We have the original manuscript still. 
- That's a claim. How do you know you have it? If I told you we have the original manuscript of the Quran would you trust me at face value?

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- You ok...?
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@Yassine
Your claim is that the Koran is more accurately preserved than any other book. I am not even going to question that it has been accurately preserved. I am questioning your stupid belief, that if I wrote a book 10 minutes ago and have it in front of me, that the Koran is somehow better preserved than that. 

Literally impossible. 
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@Incel-chud
Your claim is that the Koran is more accurately preserved than any other book.
- In history*. The author must be dead, to eliminate the possibility of recourse. 


I am not even going to question that it has been accurately preserved. I am questioning your stupid belief, that if I wrote a book 10 minutes ago and have it in front of me, that the Koran is somehow better preserved than that. 
- Your argument is only valid for yourself, as the one with the first-person experience. It isn't otherwise. Once the information in your book need be accessed by another party, new considerations other than first-person experience are required to validate authenticity.  


Literally impossible. 
- You know what, the Quran is still better preserved than your first-person experience book.
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@Yassine
- In history*. The author must be dead, to eliminate the possibility of recourse. 
wrong, history just means the past. 20 minutes ago is the past.

- Your argument is only valid for yourself, as the one with the first-person experience. It isn't otherwise. Once the information in your book need be accessed by another party, new considerations other than first-person experience are required to validate authenticity.  

Your argument is that it is better preserved, not that it is provably better preserved.

You know what, the Quran is still better preserved than your first-person experience book.
It is possible to be equally as preserved, but not better. stupid argument

I knew we would get into stupid semantics though, as immediately you attempted to alter what the word history means
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The Islamic world will surpass the Western world by 2050
The Belt & Road project is good
China will surpass the Western world by 2040
The world order will go back to its pre-Western dominion by 2070
China has already surpassed the US
The Chinese communist state is superior to the Western democratic state
How are you both pro-Islam and pro-China knowing that China isn't islamic? Or are you just a hater for the western world?

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@Incel-chud
wrong, history just means the past. 20 minutes ago is the past.
- Recourse is in the present, hence not history. 


Your argument is that it is better preserved, not that it is provably better preserved.
- Of course the argument would be about demonstrability of said preservation, not actual proof of it. 


It is possible to be equally as preserved, but not better. stupid argument
- I haven't even provided any argument though... It's not so easy to demonstrate authenticity now is it!


I knew we would get into stupid semantics though, as immediately you attempted to alter what the word history means
- I wouldn't have added "in history" if I intended any book whatsoever. I do mean, any book whose author is dead. I don't wish to argue about possibility of recourse.
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@Intelligence_06
How are you both pro-Islam and pro-China knowing that China isn't islamic?
- I'm pro-Islam, yes. It's not that, it's just the Western system is so shit, even China is doing better. Also, I'm pretty familiar with Chinese glorious history. China & the Muslim world share a lot of peaceful & collaborative history. 


Or are you just a hater for the western world?
- That's a weird question. Are you a slave of the Western world then?
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@Yassine
Aaaaaaaaaand im back to non religious. 
I was a little scared but i pushed on. 

Being a Muslim for a hour felt EXACTLY  like  normal.  
 
I might  try it again one day soon.  Maybe for llike a whole day. 
I just tried being a Chinese person then but it didnt work. 

Its been a good game. 

Have nice day yassine..  
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- You too.
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@Yassine

Democracy is a terrible government system
God Is (exists)
Let's get these two on the road. Shall I initiate them? 
- What are the parameters, rules, definitions...etc? I'd much rather debate the Islam related topics there though. 
 I can send a challenge if you wish. How do you define your God? With the common omni attributes? 

You indicated that the provided were the topics you are willing to debate ,which is why I added it. No worries if you've changed your mind. 
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@Bones
 I can send a challenge if you wish. How do you define your God? With the common omni attributes? 
- I'd rather we agree on the parameters before engaging in debate. Of course I'd be arguing for the Islamic definition of God. That is, a singular, necessary, absolute, transcendent being.  Anything I should know about your side of things?


You indicated that the provided were the topics you are willing to debate ,which is why I added it. No worries if you've changed your mind. 
- Any other topics you're interested in?

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@Yassine
 I can send a challenge if you wish. How do you define your God? With the common omni attributes? 
- I'd rather we agree on the parameters before engaging in debate. Of course I'd be arguing for the Islamic definition of God. That is, a singular, necessary, absolute, transcendent being.  Anything I should know about your side of things?
Do you believe that Allah is omnipotent and omnibenevolent? 

You indicated that the provided were the topics you are willing to debate ,which is why I added it. No worries if you've changed your mind. 
- Any other topics you're interested in?
I'm a determinist, though I would rather take it one debate at a time. 

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@Bones
Do you believe that Allah is omnipotent and omnibenevolent? 
- As I said, God is the singular, necessary, absolute, transcendent being. Absolute here meaning with absolute Will, i.e. omnipotent/omniscient. 

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@Yassine
Who’s in for some fun challenge?

What would be a fun challenge?
Seeing Muslims pray looking up to God instead of kneeling with their backsides pointing in Gods direction.

Muslim prayer rooms often look like the men are there to get their backsides washed. But don’t want to see who is washing it.