Poll on Moderation

It's not personal. We just want competent modding not "Good faith Modding". Something virtuoso is capable of, but not BSH1

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT ME? REALLY? I AM NOT SAYING THAT.

You're clearly rejecting Bsh1's vision of moderation for being too strict. And we all know Bsh1 is never going to change that vision. This is how he's always been and always will be. I urge you to consider explicitly voting to replace him.

No he hasn't. He has lied about stuff said in a PM between him and I in order to initiate moderation action against me.

Bsh1 should be demoted to normal mod under someone like Virtuoso he shouldn't be 'overthrown' in the sense people here are trying to make happen.

Yes.

Dude I'm not even on here that often to notice what the moderation is like in the first place. I pop in like once every three days out of sheer curiosity at this point, Im not nearly as active as other people 

RM, I think we agree on something. Virtuoso being head mod while BSH1 being demoted is a good solution for me, but I still say that is an anti BSH vote

@RM

What did I say?

I'm not going to vote because this is an unconstructive, reactionary mock plebiscite. To state intentions either way undermines the ability for discussion.

Why

I have seen the horrific disgusting cunning and double-standards that come with a genuinely sleek, minimalist bastard-type Mod Airmax1227. He was a brilliant Fascist masquerading as a libertarian mod who would be merciless if you were socially awkward and overly on his knees doing you know what if you were socially powerful.

Bsh1 has a backbone and is genuinely a good mod, he's just not a good LEADER. He is a brilliant support-type personality to a leader. His best work has always been a behind-the-scenes form of god tier service to a community as shown on DDO. Bsh1 is brilliant as a support-mod. I know he will be.

There is no potential for constructive discussion with Bsh1. It always ends in "agree to disagree." He refuses to budge from his views on moderation policy. He will never consent to any moderation policy that is significantly less strict than the current one. Replacing him is the only viable option.

You should vote too.

Bsh1 should be a mod. This is why I 'disagree'.

This team is optimal:

HM Virtuoso

DM/VM Bsh1

M Castin (forums) Tejretics (votes)

This team is beyond optimal:

HM RM

DM/VM Virtuoso

M Those 3.

Never going to happen.

Vote anti bsh.

I honestly gave him the benefit of the doubt, and took him at his word when he promised laissez-faire modding. Me, along with others, expressed reservations concerning a vague ToS and bsh's personal speech philosophy, and were assured that we were overreacted. Well, it's apparent that our fears were well founded. Somehow, 'laissez-faire modding' has transformed into banning the word 'tranny', warning users through private communication about innocuous language, and taking down a thread because it contained a link to a video which could be considered 'highly rude' by some people. This is not the loose standard that the site was promised. Neither were the experiences related by drafter (a much more productive and important member of this site than I am at the moment), bench, and triangle.

Personally, I think that drafter would make an excellent mod if given a fair ToS that actually spells out what 'laissez-faire' moderation is. I'm sure we disagree on a lot, but he would faithfully enforce the letter of the law. I agree with harder that it would have been much better to have a more wild west atmosphere followed by community feedback, but I can also understand why Mike, who has a lot of technical work to do, might have been happy to hand over moderation to someone like bsh. After all, he was, if I recall, only lightly involved with DDO, and so wasn't likely aware of the issues which might be caused by this. But, I think https://i.imgflip.com/1n0c3o.jpg.

I will respond to the other thread specifically, but I think that private threads could also help to make everything run more smoothly by letting people custom tailor the level of moderation to which a given conversation is subjected.

You should read the above.

You say disagree and you get cookie.

I don't see an issue with Bsh1, I see an issue with the policy. It's ridiculous that this sort of behaviour that's been going on in this thread is allowed to stand, but using symbolically offensive words goes too far. Priorities are clearly out of whack, and that's enshrined in the letter of the law, which does in fact prohibit saying mean words, but not doing mean things. 

/Abstain.

Bsh is doing fine, stop with the hystrionics, pull your knickers out of your arse crack, get a bloody grip and stop with this lord of the f***ing flies nonsense. 

You are the reason we can’t have nice things.

Disagree. I think he's doing fine. 

Not to mention even if he is more strict than your ideal moderator, he can just be a little more lax with his stuff. 

He is what he is. If he was capable of moderating appropriately and being more lax, he would have went the sensible direction to begin with

Go fuck yourself.