REPUBLICANS in CONGRESS NOW FACE a TEST of their GOOD FAITH

@Wylted

Did you know that Maryland and Illinois rank 1 and 3 respectively in the most gerrymandered districts?

• According to what criteria, I wonder?
  
• If we go by the Stephanopolous and McGhee efficiency gap (the current gold standard for measuring  the fairness of redistricting) and then rank states by the number of congressional seats stolen we see
  
• NC and PA both gain 3 Republican seats from corrupt redistricting
  
• MI, NY, and TX gain 2 Republican seats from corrupt redistricting
  
• 21 States gain 1 seat advantages from corrupt redistricting
  
• KS, NE, WV, UT, SC, IA, WI, VA, AL, IN, OH, GA, and FL all get one extra Republican seat
  
• NH, NV, CT, OR, MD, MN, MA, IL get one extra Democrat seat
  
• So if we eliminated corrupt redistricting nationally, 25 GOP house seats would likely flip Dem, and 8 Dem seats would likely flip GOP giving the Republicans a 17 seat corrupt advantage at the expense of free and fair elections in 2020, a concern that the GOP frequently pretends to prioritize
  
• So its more accurate to say that  MD and IL are in 21 way tie for third most gerrymandered states.
  
• We might also note that Former GOP Speaker of the House for 8 years  and convicted child molester Dennis Hastert drew the districting for Illinois in 1993 when a 3 judge Federal court tossed out the Democratic redistricting plan and Illinois has not successfully redistricted since.  So we can also blame Republicans for at least one of the Democratic advantages.
  

The Washington Post

Anyways, after this census Texas and Louisiana which hold the other 5 spots will have more compact districts compared to Maryland and Illinois.

incorrect. Voter fraud is impossible. If people who run the system insist that the system is fraud proof, because it would likely also expose them as beneficiaries to an unfair system, it must be true. 

• African American voters were placed on purge lists more often and more erroneously than Hispanic or white voters. For instance, in the state’s largest county, Miami-Dade, more than 65 percent of the names on the purge list were African Americans, who represented only 20.4 percent of the population. Hispanics were 57.4 percent of the population, but only 16.6 percent of the purge list; whites were 77.6 percent of the population but 17.6 percent of those purged.
  

1. How exactly do we go about meeting your standard of evidence to prove the validity of each ballot cast?

2. Can you show me that same standard being used to prove the ballots cast in Trump states and counties were valid?

Maryland and North Carolina are essentially tied for the honor of most-gerrymandered state”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/05/15/americas-most-gerrymandered-congressional-districts/%3foutputType=amp

Why are you jumping to alleging some conspiracy?

• According to what criteria, I wonder?
  
• If we go by the Stephanopolous and McGhee efficiency gap (the current gold standard for measuring  the fairness of redistricting) and then rank states by the number of congressional seats stolen we see
  

• NC and PA both gain 3 Republican seats from corrupt redistricting
  

• MI, NY, and TX gain 2 Republican seats from corrupt redistricting
  

• 21 States gain 1 seat advantages from corrupt redistricting
  
• KS, NE, WV, UT, SC, IA, WI, VA, AL, IN, OH, GA, and FL all get one extra Republican seat
  

• NH, NV, CT, OR, MD, MN, MA, IL get one extra Democrat seat
  

• So if we eliminated corrupt redistricting nationally, 25 GOP house seats would likely flip Dem, and 8 Dem seats would likely flip GOP giving the Republicans a 17 seat corrupt advantage at the expense of free and fair elections in 2020, a concern that the GOP frequently pretends to prioritize
  

• So its more accurate to say that  MD and IL are in 21 way tie for third most gerrymandered states.
  
• We might also note that Former GOP Speaker of the House for 8 years  and convicted child molester Dennis Hastert drew the districting for Illinois in 1993 when a 3 judge Federal court tossed out the Democratic redistricting plan and Illinois has not successfully redistricted since.  So we can also blame Republicans for at least one of the Democratic advantages.
  

Cause it’s hard for Democrats to understand that minorities commit the most amount of violent crime in urban areas and therefore are gonna be stricken from the voting list

Use blockchain technology for voting to ensure both anonymity and accuracy of the ballot. A full proof system has already been created that would erase the need for voter ID, but democrats reject it, because it would be impossible to cheat in such a system.

We can see the democrats messing with elections. For example they lied and projected Hillary to win. Studies show that when a person thinks their candidate will lose, they are less likely to actually vote. What motive other than that can we have for them lying about Hillary being projected to win? They also lied and projected Brexit to fail.

Reagan was predicted to lose. Why do they always get it wrong in advantage of democrats but not republicans? My theory is that it is not a coincidence they always get it wrong to demoralize the same group, instead of wrongness being random.

The biggest problems with ballots were in urban areas. Republican areas voting went smoothly and without a hitch, but in liberal areas there was all kinds of funny business. I just don't hear any reports coming out in areas republicans won, 

Democrats actually believe in democracy, and governing.

I'm completely unfamiliar with methodology of determining gerrymandered states, but a (naïve) approach from my perspective would be to determine the ratio of party affiliated voters in a given state, and then compare this to the party apportionment ratio of the congressional districts.

Are there major issues in this approach that make it unsuitable for determining fairness of districting from your perspectives?

->@oromagi

• African American voters were placed on purge lists more often and more erroneously than Hispanic or white voters. For instance, in the state’s largest county, Miami-Dade, more than 65 percent of the names on the purge list were African Americans, who represented only 20.4 percent of the population. Hispanics were 57.4 percent of the population, but only 16.6 percent of the purge list; whites were 77.6 percent of the population but 17.6 percent of those purged.
  

Your source (whatever it is) states that AA are put on more erroneously but then proceeds to only show they are put on the purge list more often. If it was some Republican conspiracy to get minorities off the voter registration, you’d expect to see a large portion of Hispanics getting purged as well, since they also vote for the GOP less than half the time on average. (Except Cubans by a very slim majority)

Is it not possible that AA double register more often, are convicted of felonies more often, etc.?

Why are you jumping to alleging some conspiracy?

• I am not alleging conspiracy, I am reporting the Republican conspiracy as documented by a fair number of Federal, State, and Journalistic investigations over the years.
  
• The short version is that FL contracted out the voter purge files to a private data crunching firm.
  
• In 1998, they hired the lowest bidding contractor, Professional Services Inc and paid them $5,700 for a fairly typical voter purge list
  
• In 2000, they hired DBT Online (then run by a flashy well known former cocaine smuggler) in a no-bid contract and paid them $4 million for a gigantic purge list. (which appears to be why DBT's services were 70 times more valuable to the Republican Government)
  
• According to the Palm Beach Post (among other issues), though blacks accounted for 88% of those removed from the rolls, they made up only about 11% of Florida's voters.  Even before election day, country officials were finding chunks of thousands of perfectly legit black voters who were on the purge lists.
  
• The lists were so obviously fraudulent that 20 counties simply refused to use the list and conducted their own purges.
  
• The State used the same firm to try to purge lists in 2004 and were interdicted by Federal Courts.
  
• The ACLU sued Florida and Florida settled by agreeing to stop using contractors and use the ACLU standards going forward (thereby admitting the fault of the 2000 purge)
  
• The bipartisan US Commision on Civil Rights found "that the problems Florida had during the 2000 presidential election were serious and not isolated. In many cases, they were foreseeable and should have been prevented. The failure to do so resulted in an extraordinarily high and inexcusable level of disenfranchisement, with a significantly disproportionate impact on African American voters." and referred the violations to the US Attorney General's office for determination of liability (needless to say AG John Ashcroft never looked into his boss's brother's conduct)
  
• Investigations by the Miami Herald, LA Times, BBC, Vanity Fair, etc. documented thousands of legally registered black voters in FL who were incorrectly purged and denied access to voting booths on election day- in an election where Bush's margin of victory depended on 538 votes when counting was stopped by the Supreme Court.  There really is no question that Gov Jeb Bush's administration deliberately intervened to illegally block the votes of thousands of black people and that intervention alone caused reversed the majority of voter's choice of a Democratic president.
  
• Republicans had two good reasons not purge Hispanics:
  
• The Cuban (one third of Miami Dade) vote was reliably Republican and absolutely necessary to a Republican win in FL.  The purge had no way of distinguishing Cuban voters from other Hispanic voters but also
  
• More Hispanic voters supported Bush than any other Republican presidential candidate before or since (40%).  The GOP had good reason not to tamper with Hispanic voters.  The fact that Hispanic voters were barely purged at all reveals the deliberation used by the GOP in purging.

50 years of "democracy" and "governing" has forever fucked New York and California.

I would take any alternative to that bullshit.

Senate republicans says the election was legit. LoL

lol ok bro, because everyone wants to live in Kentucky.

lol ok bro, because everyone wants to live in Kentucky.

There’s a reason why people are moving out of NY and CA not in

They literally lost congressional seats and want to brag about how Democrat states are so fucking great.

They literally lost congressional seats and want to brag about how Democrat states are so fucking great.

Because people want to live there and are willing to pay absurd prices as a result.

Genius, people are leaving NY and CA because it’s expensive as hell. And why is it so expensive? Because people want to live there and are willing to pay absurd prices as a result. No one is moving to red states because you know… republicans.

Prices are high because supply is low. Communist redistributionist Democrats have no fucking clue how to produce things just like the former Soviet Union.