Personally, I think genetics/race/ethnicity/species, are all meaningful constructs and/or realities.
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@Lemming
I would suggest that race and ethnicity are constructs, and remain so.
And genetics and species, are constructive appreciations of reality.
i dont make white music, i dont make black music... i make FIGHT music, for high school kids... i put lives at risk when i drive like this, i put wives at risk with a knife like this.
my life's like, kinda what my wife's like... fucked up, after i beat her fuckin ass every night, ike.
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@zedvictor4
Does it matter whether something is a social construct?
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@Lemming
I’d say a social construct is a concept which is socially malleable that lacks material qualities. Religion for example.
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@Lemming
I expect that it matters to some people.
Wouldn't matter to me, unless a social construct became an adversely affective dictate.
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@Reece101
Yep.
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@Reece101
That 'sounds right, but,
Religion 'speaks of what material is doing, and ought to do, 'why it does, why is should, what is useful,
And arises 'out of material conditions.
Though I'm likely confusing myself somehow.
Would the concept of a 'door be a social construct?
Plato's Forms pop to mind,
And suddenly a 'lot of things related to humans, sound a bit like social constructs.
Friendship, enemies, borders.
I say this, because I vaguely remember people handwaving concepts as social constructs, but something being a social construct, does not make it lack meaning or relevance to groups or individuals, I'd think.
Not make it good or bad in itself, simply by being a construct.
Yeah, but you wouldn't disagree with the adverse dictate because it's a 'construct, but because it's adverse to you, I'd think.
I suppose a schizophrenic hearing hallucinations or having delusions, wouldn't be material, except that it 'would, something happening in their brain/body, a malfunction.
Maybe an individual with no health problems, given to delusions or worries, wouldn't be a material problem, except some semantics in me, say it 'would be material. In the sense of how the material human is shaped by birth and experiences.
Hm, I'm unsure why this is confusing me.
Axes, hammers, screwdrivers, tools, houses, books, are constructs, simple enough.
A word, sentence, or idea is a construct, simple enough.
. . .
Hm.
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@Lemming
For sure.
The construction of ideas is fine.
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@Lemming
That 'sounds right, but,Religion 'speaks of what material is doing, and ought to do, 'why it does, why is should, what is useful,And arises 'out of material conditions.
As things do.
Though I'm likely confusing myself somehow.Would the concept of a 'door be a social construct?
Ignoring that all words are social constructs and many can be used metaphorically, let’s just focus on what the word refers to by definition. I’d say door isn’t a social construct in that regard.
Plato's Forms pop to mind,And suddenly a 'lot of things related to humans, sound a bit like social constructs.Friendship, enemies, borders.
I would say they are socially constructed. Although a border can be a natural formation preventing those who would otherwise pass, in my opinion.
I say this, because I vaguely remember people handwaving concepts as social constructs, but something being a social construct, does not make it lack meaning or relevance to groups or individuals, I'd think.Not make it good or bad in itself, simply by being a construct.
Yeah I know.
The shit in my butt has clohera in it.
I wonder why more people who buy lottery tickets, don't do so in groups, that when the jackpot was split, would have half a million dollars or so.
Really one doesn't need to win a bajillion dollars, just enough that life is more comfortable.
Eh, odds would 'still be terrible I assume, still, increasing your odds, without having to pay any more money in purchasing the ticket, seems decent strategy to me.
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@TheUnderdog
What is clohera?
Sounds like shit coming from of the top hole.
Did navies ever use ships as carriers, but for smaller boats in combat?
Rather than airplanes I mean.
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@zedvictor4
Clohera is a disease.
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@TheUnderdog
It's spelled cholera
I find the Public Moderation Log,
Amusing to read.
Feels too bad in a way, that it does not keep 'all records, but I can understand why it does not.
Humanism and naturalism, bah.
It ends up the same as religion, a direction of the 'apparent good, Of the 'moment.
Nor do I think religion 'bound to blind faith, any more than 'science bound to skepticism.
The general public doesn't understand the economy, the necessities of government, science, mechanics, medicine.
It's all taken on faith, and more often than not, it's but a rallying around one's tribe.
Not saying 'I understand all that stuff, or that some individuals aren't experts, or fairly knowledgeable,
Just feeling acidic at the moment.
Besides, what did religion and Earth contain 'but humans and nature, that man took/takes into account with religion?
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@Lemming
It seems you’re going by a vague approbative understanding of what religion means to you, but then applying that to everything else.
Can you please explain further how they’re all taken on faith and rallying around ones tribe?
When functioning they are all methodically data/result driven (apart from naturalism and humanism which are mostly philosophies).
Less so for governance, though some work better than others.
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@Reece101
Mostly I've forgotten my thought process, posted while sleep deprived, when peculiar thoughts and musings dash about.
Still,
I'd agree what I said was "a vague approbative understanding of what religion means to you, but then applying that to everything else."
"Can you please explain further how they’re all taken on faith and rallying around ones tribe? " - Reece101
Hm, well, looking at it, I was mentioning a number of accomplishments, I'd say we attribute to science.
Medicine, technology,
But regardless of 'living in such a society,
It doesn't follow that the inhabitants necessarily 'understand the workings of such,
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke
"Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced". - Barry Gehm
"Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it." - Florence Ambrose
It's my opinion that a good many religious writings are meaningful in more than a fantastic story.
They speak of meaning psychological and social, individual and group, and the importance of such.
Sure religion 'can just be X made us, believe in X, X is good.
But such practice of religion, is not the type of religion that has impressed me in life.
Parables and Proverbs, impresses me in places,
But I'm rambling.
. . .
Point I 'think I was trying to make, is that even those who see themselves divorced from religion, are in no way disentangled from the 'essence of religion or the psychology of humanity, as I see them.
@No One In Particular
Though I can't remember the particular piece, I think either Confucius or Mencius, said something along the lines of it being better to improve the people's character, than material improvements, such as roads, swords, more crops.
Which I think of from time to time,
Whenever I might have seen fiction of some old world people,
Inventing some new hardier form of rice, finding a new fertile land,
And in either case remarking on how they will be able to solve hunger, and humanity be at peace.
But of course humanity in reality, 'usually,
Grows beyond the new food threshold,
Or goes about destruction in paradise.
I dislike how all these trials recently, are becoming backdrops to ideological positions.
Not that the methods and outcomes 'don't reflect ideological positions,
But it's 'really looking to me, 'especially after this Rittenhouse trial,
That people are treating this all like some high stakes sports game.
As I see a news headline about the stakes in the Aubrey case being raised,
As though, "We lost that game boy's, but we can win the next one, the enemy shall be defeated!"
It's not that I don't support people having an opinion on politics, or the courts.
But it all feels so base recently,
People blinded, or at least wearing blinders,
As they thunder about.
So many protests recently,
Why don't individuals put that effort towards helping the poor, hungry, or homeless,
If they've so much time on their hands, and burning passions?
. . .
I also don't much like change in society I suppose.
Though people who form groups and 'new societies, don't bother me so much.
And in a number of cases, I even 'agree with a number of ideals of some groups, (IF ONLY THEY"D FORM A NEW SOCIETY)
. . .
Though likely, this is much of the problem, 'I think.
I suppose one of the pieces of the isekai genre that bothers me,
Is it's apparent appeal of escapism,
Though that's one of the appeals of fiction I suppose,
The. . . 'quality feels different in isekai.
The suddenness of oneself being plucked from reality as it is known, bothers me a fair bit as well I suppose.
One of the reasons I'm not greatly fond of the horror genre either.
I dislike a feeling of helplessness.
The wish fulfillment, Mary Sues, harems, and morality/ethics I don't care for, just irritate me.
The 'justifications the characters give for slavery and war,
I 'just don't care for.
Admittedly not 'all of what I dislike is in 'all isekai, but it's been in a fair number of them.
Eh, problem of some anime and manga, I suppose.
I find it odd, that I don't see legit download websites.
Rather, content is hidden behind paywalls, or limited to the websites, with 'fake download ability, like YouTube.
Be easy enough to just have some quality control on what videos one allows,
Make sure that they're not copyrighted, or are posted by permission of author,
Or maybe that's 'more complicated than I think.
Just have a requirement for X amount of time spent on site,
Where user has to watch/read ads, and then answer questioners after, to prove they watched/read it,
Or at least 'know of the product in the add, and have been reminded of it.
I wonder if ads would be more effective,
If they acted more like real people,
Super extroverted people of course, but human,
Hm, I suppose they do in some cases,
But it's 'still too patently obvious, and irritating,
Invasive.
A more 'real person, could make friends in video games, chat rooms, conversation,
While bringing up a product on the sly, or without obtrusion, make it seem natural.
In this I'm not even talking of 'ads I suppose, but real people sellers as well,
Really 'real people would be 'more effective at it currently.
Bah!
'I'd not remove it.
If we made less 'variety of goods,
Would their prices be cheaper?
Defiance or Submission?
Anger, Agony, or Quiet Misery,
To struggle against barbed wire as it pulls tighter,
Or ease one's muscles, letting it slack.
. . .
Circumstantial, I suppose,
Situations 'depending, on whether which method will result in release,
Or release unfeasible,
What your values hold.
I wonder how much it costs to buy various video games?
Price would vary, I imagine.
Straw Hat Samurai Duels, was a fun game,