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Showed them risking 'everything alongside their people I suppose,
To go with their army, into war and battle.

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Perhaps eventually we will develop a test for the arsehole gene and abort appropriately.

Zed, here gene and culture related vid.

This Standord professor of Neurology and other, tells his idea of free will or not at about 48:00. LCZ, you may have posted this in past and I missed it.

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Your predication sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Your predication sticks out like a sore thumb

.." An accurate assessment of prognosis differs from a prediction in that it requires stating a range of survival based upon relevant data. "...

Prognostication { the end is near } based on relevant data

Prediction { the end is near }  based on old wives or husbands tales.
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Predication.
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Personally, it makes sense to me for as 'many people as possible in a country to carry a gun.
This thought pops to my mind, hearing about the Hamas attack on Israel,
Civilians killed, kidnapped, murdered.

Course one would ideally want one's people to be sane, trained, and law abiding.
. . .

It 'bothers me, not in this particular instance, but generally speaking,
When I hear about people who surrender, allow themselves to be taken hostage,
Course I've never been in such a situation, so I've no legs to stand on.
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predication
  > predator > predation > .." Prednisolone is a corticosteroid (cortisone-like medicine or steroid). It works on the immune system to help relieve swelling, redness, itching, and allergic reactions. "...

Predication Does not inherently mean about future resultants due to relvant actions or hokey pokey superstitious beliefs
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'many people as possible in a country to carry a gun.
Welcome back to the old west where men where men and wome were women. 

Ii see so many wanna-be-free, wanna-be's its scary the amout of T-shirt exclaiming there being trodden upon. Some are trees driping blood. Saw another few days and cant recall what it said. I'm way too tired. Sorry


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Many websites seem to remove videos of real events, for being too shocking.

Though arguably such videos 'can also be false, misrepresented, or lead to an increase in bloodshed.
. . .

It seems better for their to be at least 'one website,
Where 'complete free speech is had.

Though perhaps it would be necessary for there to be some way to be certain it is a real person, and it be them behind the screen.
Bots, propogandists with sock accounts, should be avoided.
. . .

I suppose this thought just comes to mind,
As a number of videos regarding the Hamas attack on Israel are deleted,
Then Hamas supporters claim such events do not occur.

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How is a modern 'civilized war supposed to go?


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Though nature is nice,
I don't think I'd want to build a house as some people do,
Trees, grass, and foliage doesn't seem the type of objects you'd want close to a house.
Growing near, growing on, falling on.

Seems to me better to pour a huge concrete foundation, 
Below and above ground,
Radiating as far from one's house, as one might reasonably expect a tree to fall.
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Nature is nice, is a concept.

So everything is naturally occurring and therefore conceptually everything should be nice.

But we also have the contradictory not nice concept.

Though I'm not sure how damaging and not nice a garden is and using trigonometry one should be able to have a nice association with trees.

Far worse if a dickbrain decides to build next door.
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Im in fear of tall deteriorating tree over my propane tank and if it snaps off because hollow inside, it is within 25 ft of power line, and two pine trees and a fir tree within 20 ft of house.

At minimum would like to move propane tanks but wife will not agree.  My wife has temporarily parked under this trees limbs for years and I told her bad idea, cause one limb had signs of water { edema } at its underbase  where it attaches to trunk.  Sure enough the large branch and another higher one each broke off on two seperate and  occasions, landed exactly where she parks her car, some times.

Luckily here and car were not parked there when they fell.  I emailed power co. and they came to look at it, said it was good I contacted them, and the tree might last another two years ---they have no way knowing if it is hollow inside---- and that it is not in budget to cut this year.

5 - 10 years ago or so, they ---or a contractor--  comes around with huge high  reaching buzz saw to cut all tree branches within 15 ft or so of power line. I pointed out this tree , to them and asked if they cut remove it. They said yes and to mark it with paint. I did that and they never removed.

So there is another large branch that hangs over our driveway and where I or others walk in and out of for exercise, but at least this branch is not dark with water { edema } at base.  There was fire not far away last week that burned 300 acres, cause so dry now.  

Our main house { my wifes residence } has metal roof and hardi-planck siding { cement and cellouse }, and Im trying to keep leaves blown away 30 ft or more,, but I just had total reverse shoulder replacement and it is difficult for me to blow leaves, get my sling dirty dusty etc.  And part of that is the our old shack/house i live in behind the main/newer  house.

Ive seen on tree not far from my end of my driveway snap off half cause it was hollow inside.  And a friend of mine not far away, told me how he and another person were out near road talking when this huge tree close them snap off, because hollow inside, and they were just lucky it fell other way from them.
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Interesting,
Pity the contractors didn't cut it some.
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Removing a tree can range between $200 and $2,000, with most homeowners paying $750 per tree. Per foot, expect to pay between $8 for shorter trees and $15 for taller ones to account for the additional labor and safety precautions required.
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We had offer of $400. two years ago, and he was supposed to come the next spring.  This that and other caused us to lose track of that project. It was my recent being home all of the time after this should surgery replacement, that I'm walking more than ever under that tree and had nothing else to focus on.

So power co. will take care of it.  Just not before some time next year.  Even if we hire some one to cut --he is old work buddy friend---  it is risky and he does have insurance, but I not allow him to do it with out first contacting power co. and shutting off power, lower and move lines out of way in case tree does not go the way we would try to fell it with ropes --still could snap off--- and I would have propane tanked moved temporarily.

So i'm out of work ---getting half pay--- and all of this above my wife has to agree too.  At this point she wants to wait for power co. to do it for free, as that is what they do with these type of tree issues within so many feet of primary power lines.
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Well, best of luck buddy.
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Same goes out all for of us, humanity and the systemic and structural integrity of our finite, dynamic Universe { @ }.

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If science had the ability to terraform another planet like they fantasize about doing to Mars, they could fix everything wrong with this planet. Why don't they
re-terraform this planet, 99.9% of the work is already done.
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If science had the ability to terraform another planet like they fantasize about doing to Mars, they could fix everything wrong with this planet. Why don't they
re-terraform this planet, 99.9% of the work is already done.
Good point Sad, 99.9% of work is done and yet humanity still not unified enough to acknowledge { ignorant dummies } and address the oncoming/pending doom of ecological scenarios. Ex lack of fresh water.

Ex ignorant idiots over the years who repeatedly state there is no fresh water issue. 

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I don't know much about terraforming,
But maybe 'some terraforming that would apply to barren planets, are different than Earth Terraforming,
More damaging I mean.

I can imagine Sci Fi terraforming including throwing comets at a planet, or activating it's volcanos somehow.
. . .

Still, there 'is Earth terraforming, from my point of view, though more localized.
. .
Arguably deforestation is terraforming,
With the intention of growing farmland.
. .

Dams, another change of the land,
Though I'd worry about it going to far,

Terraforming land, seems to me capable of unintended effects,
. . .

Also, people don't always have the means.
The capable/willing governments, population, material, science, peace.
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"One opinion among commentators is that after she mourned for her virginity in light of the Biblical commandment to "be fruitful and multiply", which she would now no longer be able to fulfill, Jephthah killed his daughter in an act of human sacrifice.[1] There is an opposing opinion that Jephthah's daughter was "offered to the Lord" in the same way Samuel was offered after birth, and spent the rest of her life in seclusion. This is based on considerations such as weeping for her virginity would make no sense if she were about to die. Commentators holding this view include David Kimhi,[2] Keil and Delitzsch,[3] James B. Jordan,[4] and the Jehovah's Witnesses.[5]"

There's also a 'lot of other arguments, but I don't feel like typing out all my thoughts and sources I read recently.
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Sometimes I get a gnawing desire, and a fear,
A desire to turn to my faith again,
And a fear of it.

Though I'm not sure where hence comes the fear.
A fear that I might lose something important again (Faith)?
A fear that I might enter into a delusion (Faith)?
Yet which be the delusion, theism or atheism?
Of course now, I think t-
T-
The theism. . .

Yet the gnawing comes at times.
The anti-Theists, I find the 'opposite of persuasive,
Rather they give me mind towards what in the Bible I esteem.
. . .

I'm more fond of better to not have loved and lost,
Than to have loved and lost.
Still, I'm unsure of 'what the fear is.
. . .

Ah, I remember now,
Even when I believed, I did not view myself as one who lived as a Christian,
Despite hopes, feelings, and regrets.
No,
Still, . . And 'Yet that gnawing!
Gnaws still more fierce, demanding towards actually 'living as a Christian,
But that fear and self interest, another gnawing.
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Interesting theory, but definitely not true. Jephthah definitely is guilty of the sin of human sacrifice. The greater message and context of Judges also points to this, even without taking the words “burnt offering” into account.

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I'm not well read in the Bible, but as I understand it from Google,
Involves a lot of man going astray from God in their actions,
Though, really that happens frequent in the Bible I would think,
Well, more frequent in some places, I suppose.
Or significant, in different ways.

"The book of Judges was written to show the consequences of religious unfaithfulness and to point the way to a king who, if righteous, would lead the people to God. In the book of Joshua, the people of Israel seemed to want to follow the Lord and obey his commands. The book of Judges reveals, however, that the people had been rebelling even in Joshua’s time. This disobedience continued and grew more serious throughout the period of the judges. As summarized in Judges 2:16–23, time and again Israel turned its back on God and embraced the gods and ways of the Canaanites. Israel’s history unfolds in a repetitive way, with each cycle taking Israel further away from God. By the end of the book, Israel had violated its covenant with God in almost every way imaginable."
. . .

I'm not arguing myself that Jephthah 'didn't sacrifice his daughter,
Though I do think there might be fair reason that some people take the view that he did not.

"The second clue can be found in the vow Jephthah made. In Hebrew, the letter Vav is used as a conjunction joining two parts of speech. In English, we have many different words that function as conjunctions. Not so in Hebrew. The one letter Vav represents multiple different conjunctions. It can mean “and,” “together with,” “but,” “so,” “then,” and “or.” Many scholars have translated this Vav conjunction as “or.”
If that’s the case, then Jephthah’s vow says, “Whatever comes out of the doors of my house…it shall be the LORD’s, or I will offer it up as a burnt offering” (Judg. 11:31). This vow could be interpreted to mean that if the first thing to come out of the house was appropriate to offer as a burnt offering, then Jephthah would offer it as a burnt sacrifice. However, if the first thing to come out of the house wasn’t appropriate to offer as a burnt sacrifice, “it shall be the Lord’s,” meaning it would be dedicated to the Lord."
. . .

Certainly though,
Taking the view Jephthah 'did sacrifice his daughter, further pushes the idea of child sacrifice being common in that time and area, and 'influence on the Israelites.
A theme I remember in the Old Testament, was frequent Israel allowing itself to be influenced by other cultures and beliefs, in a way the Bible argues are negative and harmful.

A theory I like, is that Abraham and Isaac, is about making a point, that the Israelites are 'not to do such,
That the sacrifice of children is not what God wants.
Though I've heard other people make comparisons between the Binding of Isaac and Jesus.
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Is it 'more,
If one can 'reason an ought for evil,
Versus, a heartstring pulled for good, despite many a reason?
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I wonder how cost effective Halloween trick or treating is, compared to people just buying their kids candy,
If one weighs the cash value of the candy, compared to the time/minimum wage it took to acquire the candy,
Probably 'not cost effective, especially given how candy will often go on sale after the holidays,
Ah, also the cost of costumes,
Course, Halloween is a whole 'experience I suppose,
And arguably might be more cost effective to make treats something one only receives during the holidays, than all the time,
Also the cost of diabetes, if one 'buys candy all the time.

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I like candy 😁
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What 'was Clausewitz trying to say by,
"War is the continuation of policy with other means."?
(Below is just my 'impression, not fact of what he meant)

From what I've read and Googled,
He was saying that war needs to keep political ends in mind,
"No one starts a war--or rather, no one in his sense ought to do so--without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by the war and how he intends to conduct it."
- Clausewitz
"War is thus an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will."
- Clausewitz

Entering into war doesn't turn off politics,
More often it's politics that 'end wars,
They want to achieve some objective, that they can trade at the bargining table, to force an enemy to terms.

He also talks about destroying the enemy,
But I remember him saying in engagements,
"Engagements mean fighting.  The object of fighting is the destruction or defeat of the enemy."
- Clausewitz

He talks about absolute war, but,
   – However, war never achieves its absolute nature because:  "war is never an isolated act;" "war does not consist of a single short blow;" and "in war the result is never final."
- Clausewitz

War often doesn't 'go that far, it's some platonic theoretical war.
Though he does use Napolean as an example of being revolutionary in how much manpower and effort he got out of France,
It was the whole nations war, not just the leader and the army, all were involved and pressing forward in a sense.



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Landmines. 

Do they make a ,  Easy 2 locate landmine. 
Or 
Or like. 
A easy 2 disarm range of landmines.  

What about.  
When you " plant " a landmine and kill a kid 30 or so years later.