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iLikePie (oromagi, MisterChris) -- 2/3 votes
MisterChris (Pie, Supa) --2/3 votes
g2g for now
BHM Mafia - Day Phase 4
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Oromagi has a PR. It makes sense he has a justification. I have no justification or biography and my role is vanilla townie. That's it and that's all I got. It's Pie or Chris.
This is actually really fucky. No one vote or unvote. Basically here's the issue
Pie and I claim to have no justification
Oro and Chris claim to have some justification
Pie and I claim to have no justification
Oro and Chris claim to have some justification
Oro is town
Chris is a vanilla like me
I have no justification
Pie is a justice but has no justification, and Justice is a PR
Pie is a justice but has no justification, and Justice is a PR
Oromagi is a tracker or watcher and has justification and is a PR
Pie or Chris is lying
Pie or Chris is lying
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@Vader
@oromagi
People with no justification in their PMs:
Speed: “I'm Charles Hamilton Houston, I'm a lawyer and can stop someone from being lynched in the following day phase, no justification.”
Pie: “Aight so ya I don’t have a justification but it’s hella obvious why I’m this role as the character.”
Whiteflame: “My role does not include any justification.”
Oro: “I don't have a justification although it is not hard to connect character to role.”
ChocoPie and Supa have already said there’s no justification. Only Chris says there is
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@ILikePie5
I frankly think Godfather would be easily outweighed by 1 protective role, 1 killing AND protective role, a watcher, and a justice (an OP role when 2 players is 25% of the entire game). The remaining mafia member only makes sense as you.No it wouldn’t because GF inherently prevents POE cause I’m the Justice.
Right. We all get that GF isn't detected by you. Point is, it's not like you're the only role. GF can't counter watcher and the killing and protective roles, only you. So you've conveniently spun a narrative around your claim but ignored that the balance makes no sense, especially since your role ensures that the goon is fucked. It makes much more sense for mafia to have a JOAT or something.
OK so Oro is town. Glad we agree.Oro and Supa are town. If either of em was scum they would’ve hammered by now.
OK. So it's between me and you then.
I vote you.
Bringer would've instructed Croc as to which person to kill and all Croc would've had to do is log on Discord and say the word without even reading the DP. You just made up Croc not using his role.Speculation much? So why’d the NP not end early lol
Because this is Croc and Croc does everything at a rate of never.
Showering will be back after
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@ILikePie5
Yeah. In all honestly there is no way in hell if whiteflame said it and my role that Chris can be town unless it's bastard.
I'm working out... I'll brb at like 4
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@MisterChris
Right. We all get that GF isn't detected by you. Point is, it's not like you're the only role. GF can't counter watcher and the killing and protective roles, only you.
Watchers and Trackers are counters to Godfathers lol. Speed’s role was neutral because Town or Scum could be protected. Elite Bodyguard it’s 50/50 chance and only the mod knows what the results were, plus we don’t know if Pie was just killed or he died protecting Oro or someone else.
So you've conveniently spun a narrative around your claim but ignored that the balance makes no sense, especially since your role ensures that the goon is fucked. It makes much more sense for mafia to have a JOAT or something.
The balance makes perfect sense. A Bodyguard dependent on mod that dies too. Watcher counters Godfather and Town Lawyer is neutral. I’m the only investigative role and it works both ways - guilty on Bringer but inno on GF.
Because this is Croc and Croc does everything at a rate of never.
What that makes no sense. If Croc was scum and had a role why would the NP not end early if he submits his actions? Even if Bringer did it for him the NP would end early.
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@oromagi
Danielle gave you your PM, what does it say
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@Vader
Yeah. In all honestly there is no way in hell if whiteflame said it and my role that Chris can be town unless it's bastard.
Not just you, Pie and Speed said the same thing.
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@Vader
My PM is more like Supa's and Pie's but I am not deceived. I can see four PMs written by Danielle that match Chris's description more than mine or Supa's.
Your choice, Supa
You can VTL Pie and win the game or deadlock and lose.
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@oromagi
My PM is more like Supa's and Pie's but I am not deceived. I can see four PMs written by Danielle that match Chris's description more than mine or Supa's.
Are kidding me? Pie, Whiteflame, and Speed ALL said they don’t have a justification. You don’t, ChocoPie doesn’t, and Supa doesn’t. Only person who magically has one is Chris. Come on man.
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@Vader
Oro is literally saying his PM is like ours and everyone else’s but refuses to vote Chris.
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@oromagi
Use your brain for a second. Why does every dead townie say they don’t have a justification if they did. Like wtf dude
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@oromagi
So you are saying it's gonna be a deadlock then. You are not moving your vote
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@oromagi
Stop listening to authority and use your goddamn brain
So it's obvious one scum is around, if we VTNL today, it's 3v1.
Unvote VTNL
It's so obviously Chris that I refuses to vote Pie and end in town losing, it's 3v1, If Pie or Me die, it's Chris by POE.
I will only vote VTNL or Chris
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@Vader
It's so obviously Chris that I refuses to vote Pie and end in town losing, it's 3v1, If Pie or Me die, it's Chris by POE.
There’s no going to be an NK. Oro watches you because you’re confirmed town, so Chris can’t kill you. If he kills Oro or me he loses. No point in VTNL
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@oromagi
What grievance do you have against me? I literally don’t understand. Everyone is literally spoon feeding you and you refuse to eat
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@oromagi
If you think I'm town, I'm telling you as Vanilla, I have no justification at all. Nothing. Chris is vanilla and said he does. You said no to having no role justification
Unvote VTL Chris
Or it's oromagi. If it's oromagi big braining us then GG
If Oromagi big brained us by bussing his scum to make him look more town then GG to him.
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@Vader
If Oromagi big brained us by bussing his scum to make him look more town then GG to him.
If he was then he would’ve just hammered Chris. Oro not you can be scum unless yall are just trolling. It has to be between me and Chris and it’s literally Chris
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@whiteflame
@Speedrace
I hope y’all eternally shame Oro if this ends in a tie or loss for us
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@oromagi
Just hammer dude. It’s literally such an easy decision. Everyone had the same PM structure as you, me, and Supa have right now. They literally said that
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@Vader
-> @oromagiIf you think I'm town, I'm telling you as Vanilla, I have no justification at all. Nothing. Chris is vanilla and said he does. You said no to having no role justification
I believeyou. Chris does not say that he has a justification, he says the justification is implied. In fact, I don't think Chris has explicitly stated the implied justification but I guess its something like "you are VANILLA because racism held you back" it makes sense to me and this type of justification seems to match perfectly with all of the PMs that are TOWN verified. Why would you insist that having a briefer PM with less biograpy is more TOWN when you can see for yourself compared to verified TOWN, our PMs are more the exception?
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@oromagi
I believeyou. Chris does not say that he has a justification, he says the justification is implied.
No he literally admitted what he said was in his PM. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5723/post-links/249575
In fact, I don't think Chris has explicitly stated the implied justification but I guess its something like "you are VANILLA because racism held you back" it makes sense to me and this type of justification seems to match perfectly with all of the PMs that are TOWN verified. Why would you insist that having a briefer PM with less biograpy is more TOWN when you can see for yourself compared to verified TOWN, our PMs are more the exception?
Town literally don’t have biographies. If they did Speed would’ve said it and Whiteflame would’ve said it, but there was none. It’s so obvious Chris is the odd one out, out of literally everyone