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@bmdrocks21
get money out of politics
That will never happen until you get politics out of money.
Growing Older I've Lost Identity To A Political Party
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@Greyparrot
Even if Congress couldn’t spend money, their actions still affect people. Always going to be interest groups.
But preventing infinite soft money spending on campaign ads and other expenditures certainly reduces their influence
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@Intelligence_06
well it is certainly unusual
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@Username
No. People who make their money by working hard on their brand are not entitled to share that wealth democratically
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@bmdrocks21
I do understand that there are major flaws of the philosophy, with regards to outsourcing. However, companies outsource and move to foreign lands due to the increase in government regulations. I guarantee you that more companies would stay in the USA if it weren't for these regulations. I just don't think Reaganism is going to drive this country in the right direction as radicalism on both parties is shifting (Trump being Auth Right and Bernie being Socialist Auth Left). I believe freedom is essential into democracy and the one thing preventing us from true freedom is government. Government holds more authority to oppress us than the corporation
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@Dr.Franklin
Ehhhhh... not really
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@Vader
No. People who make their money by working hard on their brand are not entitled to share that wealth democratically
If I establish a monarchy all by myself are those who are born under it "not entitled" to share the power democratically?
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@Username
You can not compare corporations to governments. A government can oppress you legally if they wanted to. A corporation can not oppress you in any way
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@Vader
You can not compare corporations to governments. A government can oppress you legally if they wanted to. A corporation can not oppress you in any way
Corporations can absolutely oppress you. Do not confuse the ability to oppress with the ability to use force.
A corporation can
- have higher ups that treat you horribly
- underpay you and let you starve to death
- discharge you from your job
- pollute local areas and ecosystems
We see all of these things happen in the Global South as we speak. This is not theoretical oppression; it is a reality.
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@Username
You can not compare corporations to governments. A government can oppress you legally if they wanted to. A corporation can not oppress you in any wayCorporations can absolutely oppress you. Do not confuse the ability to oppress with the ability to use force.
Governments oppress a larger sum of people
A corporation can- have higher ups that treat you horribly- underpay you and let you starve to death- discharge you from your job
Life is unfair
- pollute local areas and ecosystemsWe see all of these things happen in the Global South as we speak. This is not theoretical oppression; it is a reality.
You don't have a point. A billionaire who has worked his entire life to amount a fortune should just throw away his money because he is rich. That's called oppression
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@Vader
You don't have a point. A billionaire who has worked his entire life to amount a fortune should just throw away his money because he is rich. That's called oppression
Life is unfair
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@Vader
For the record, that's not my actual response to your point. But if you are going to be so ethically inconsistent that I can apply your own logic to your own argument then I literally cannot argue with you.
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@Username
Money....Funny old thing is money......And money is also oppressive.....For a reason perhaps.
Money dependency maybe a widespread issue......And contentment doesn't necessarily come with lots of it.
Oh...And of course there are also hormones to consider.....Hormones are also oppressive.....For a reason though
Though primary drives often get overlooked these days....As we pose, well groomed and well suited, in our smart cars, outside our smart homes with our smart partners, and our smart phones... Taking selfies with the new addition to the family....Our smart new puppy.
Oh...And politics is on the T.V.........But if you feel so inclined and have a lot of testosterone or progesterone to placate.....You can dress up in your smart pseudo-military gear and go march and shout about it.....Politics that is, and conspiracy theories too, if you are so hormonally and intellectually challenged.
At my age though....I know where I would prefer to be.
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@bmdrocks21
getting politics out of money means ending crony capitalism.
The state-run media's reaction to the GameStop rebellion proves crony capitalism isn't going anywhere.
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@Greyparrot
All that proved was the corruption of the corporate media. It depends on if the people fall for their lies hook, line, and sinker.
The connection between screwing over billionaire hedge funds that over-shorted GameStop and "White Supremacy" is hard to make.
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@Vader
I do understand that there are major flaws of the philosophy, with regards to outsourcing. However, companies outsource and move to foreign lands due to the increase in government regulations. I guarantee you that more companies would stay in the USA if it weren't for these regulations. I just don't think Reaganism is going to drive this country in the right direction as radicalism on both parties is shifting (Trump being Auth Right and Bernie being Socialist Auth Left). I believe freedom is essential into democracy and the one thing preventing us from true freedom is government. Government holds more authority to oppress us than the corporation
If we allowed companies to dump toxic waste in our rivers and they could get away with paying $10 per week for wages, I'm sure more businesses WOULD stay here.
But it depends: do you want to live in an America with pollution levels rivaling China? Do you want people dying in factories left and right? I certainly don't.
There definitely needs to be regulations. If companies want to leave? You screw them. Have a protectionist economy that puts quotas and tariffs on the goods they wanted to make cheaply. We have a massive consumer base that they need access to, and make them "make it in America" if they want to make a lot of money here. Free trade gives them a free pass to outsource jobs without consequences.
If you needed a 'conservative' appeal, that is basically what the Founding Fathers did. They ran the government mainly off of tariffs. Trump was only considered "radical" because our country went full free trade and socially libtarded over the past decades. Very little of what he did was some crazy authoritarian stuff, and I would argue that he should have done more like quelling riots with the Insurrection Act.
And the government has less power to oppress us in terms of taking away rights. Twitter? They can deplatform you for wrong think. The government must respect freedom of speech, at least until they pass an Amendment that says otherwise. The government is a tool that can be good or bad: it can protect or harm. The people vote for these representatives. The corporations are beholden to profit-incentives and shareholders. Therefore, force companies to be aligned with the public by being protectionist, for example. They can force companies to respect free, non-criminal speech too.
The government has plenty of its own drawbacks. They have their place. Private industry also has their place. Use their respective powers to increase Americans' wellbeing as much as possible.
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@Greyparrot
How about the arbitrary lockdowns as a recent example where corporate warfare is waged on who can pay the most to get the government to shut down select businesses?
Who paid to get government to shut down businesses?
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@Vader
Most people start their libertarian phase in college. You're ahead of the game :)
I'm glad to see that you are more empathetic and open minded to the utility of immigrants.
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@Danielle
Yes. I believe immigrants are essential to this country as they were essential when building the foundation of this country in the 1900s. I don't buy any of the "outsourcing" bullshit that goes on. They are simply hard workers who never stop looking for work. Immigration is ultimately positive.
Yep. I am early but not too early. I'm still a senior so I'm only 6 months away, but I guess that's considered early haha
Yep. I am early but not too early. I'm still a senior so I'm only 6 months away, but I guess that's considered early haha
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@Danielle
Who paid to get government to shut down businesses?
You really don't think Governors just rolled the dice to decide this bullshit, do you?
I'm glad to see that you are more empathetic and open minded to the utility of immigrants.
Yes, I have also come to realize the economical and political value of illegal immigrants as well as a tool to preserve Washington DC power and sustain the 50 plus years
of inequality in the homeless capitals of America.
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@Greyparrot
You said corporate warfare was waged to get government to shut down businesses. I asked who dunnit - a very innocent question.
You didn't answer and responded with (a presumably irrelevant) YouTube link. Why are you so predictable lol. Please just answer. I'm curious.
Which specific politicians and corporations engaged in that practice you just said occurred? A very simple question which should have a straightforward answer that I don't have to click to get to.
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@Vader
Outsourcing obviously does happen and libertarians / free market capitalists argue that it's a good thing. People who want government regulation of the economy, from the likes of Bernie Sanders to Donald Trump, want to implement "Buy American" orders to force companies to purchase labor or products from within the U.S. In fact Joe Biden just signed executive orders saying the government would prioritize buying from U.S. companies. This is something Trump fans should obviously be happy about but can't bring themselves to acknowledge.
Libertarians and free market enthusiasts say it is beneficial to outsource as it #1 reduces the cost of goods for us here at home, and #2 gives opportunities to people overseas which helps them grow their economies (China used to be a third world country not too long ago -- people see that as both good and bad depending on their moral compass or political priorities).
Some argue outsourcing is good as it would deter immigration to the U.S. Some argue outsourcing is okay it is always good economics to allow for the purchase of the cheapest goods and labor. Others argue outsourcing is righteous in the name of freedom. But libertarians are perfectly okay with outsourcing, just to be clear. So if you still champion that "buy American" mentality of Donald Trump, you might not be a libertarian. If you believe outsourcing + the free market is preferable, that is more in line with libertarian economics.
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@Greyparrot
A little advice? Instead of expecting people to look into a youtube video, just directly provide the statistics, you've done it before I don't see why you seem to not want to.
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@Danielle
I guess I can go into a comprehensive list as to exactly who got exemptions from Lockdown mandates, and check the value of their assets and compare them to small businesses like that restaurant, and possibly show why the rich purchase exemptions in the form of lobbies and donations, but this will take some time to convince you so be patient.
I heartfully apologize for posting just one real-world example as a weak form of evidence.
For someone like you living in New York where you have suffered with the 2nd largest income inequality in America for over 50 years, I can see why you are skeptical.
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@Greyparrot
I don't know which restaurant you're talking about. If you responded to me with some random video about a restaurant or business suffering from Covid lockdowns, then I was right not to bother clicking it. That has nothing to do with what I asked you so I don't understand why would be showing me a real world example of a suffering restaurant. I never once denied businesses are suffering as a result of lockdowns.
If you don't have the time to go into a comprehensive list of politicians and corporations, can you name just one or two? When you say the rich lobby and donate to politicians for exemptions, those are exactly the examples I'm talking about. Which donors or lobbies petitioned which politicians to keep big businesses open so small businesses suffer? You obviously have some in mind since you are making the claim.
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@Danielle
Well, the video identified 2 parties, but I guess you are still in shock from living so long in the country's 2nd most unequal income State. So I understand your reluctance.
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@Greyparrot
My reluctance to click on the video is because I knew it would be a waste of my time. Thank you for proving me right lol.
90% of the time your responses to me are wholly irrelevant. Case in point: you have now twice brought up income inequality as some sort of weird red herring for your inability to back up the claim you made. Very weird. If you can't name a single example when I press you for one... just say so. Don't bother posting random videos to me :)
Thank you for proving me right lol.
I am glad I could disprove evidence I never had to present to you. Thanks!
I'm always amazed and jealous of your level of curiosity and your commitment.
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@Danielle
Most people start their libertarian phase in college.
I find that really odd. I was libertarian starting senior in high school, but started slowly trending authoritarian about halfway through freshman year in college and never stopped lol.
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@Greyparrot
Of course you don't have to present evidence, but it's worth noting that you can't.
You made a claim, and yet the second I asked you for one shred of evidence... like literally one single name or one single corporation to back up that wide sweeping generalization you made... you couldn't do it lol.
So then you brought up this incredibly wild red herring (income inequality) which has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. This is your M.O. When someone asks you for proof of something, for some reason you feel backed into a corner and try to distract by bringing up some other random ass point as if everyone is going to forget your inability to back up your claim but nobody ever does. Like I said: very weird.