Crimes Mafia - DP2

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@ILikePie5
Ok, so what? The point of this game is that the thing you are is actually a crime. Would you buy "aggravation" as a crime?
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@warren42
Your original posts were from whiteflame, not me
Well, we do both have w's at the start of our usernames. Basically makes us identical twins.
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@drafterman
Ok, so what? The point of this game is that the thing you are is actually a crime. Would you buy "aggravation" as a crime?
I sure as hell would Corruption bribery
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Official Vote Count

drafter (2/5) - lunatic, Danielle,

Not voting: That1, warren, pie, drafter, Speed, Supa, white,

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@drafterman
“A public servant commits the offense of acceding to corruption if he or she knowingly solicits, accepts or agrees to accept any benefit, direct or indirect, in return for his or her:

(1) Official vote, opinion, recommendation, judgment, decision, action or exercise of discretion as a public servant; or

(2) Violation of a known legal duty as a public servant.

2. The offense of acceding to corruption by a public servant is a class E felony.”





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@Bullish
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I don't think this is independently scummy but Pie defending Lunatic's character super hard is noted. It might be just him being hardheaded and wanting to be right but it also might be w/w. If one flips guilty I'll be suspicious of the other, but again don't think it's independently scummy

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@warren42
I don't think this is independently scummy but Pie defending Lunatic's character super hard is noted. It might be just him being hardheaded and wanting to be right but it also might be w/w. If one flips guilty I'll be suspicious of the other, but again don't think it's independently scummy
Who do you plan to vote for?
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@ILikePie5
Ok, what's the vote for?
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@ILikePie5
What kinda question is that? The election isn't for four years, I don't know who's running, and with any luck I might be an Icelandic citizen by then.

In all seriousness not drafter, I'm confident he's town. Same with Supa. Lunatic and Danielle are also outside of my POE at the moment. But the day phase is still young, we have well over 48 hours, so I don't know.


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@drafterman
Ok, what's the vote for?
I don’t believe that you’re a Town Hooker.
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@ILikePie5
Ok.
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@ILikePie5
Do you think he's a mafia roleblocker? Do you think he's lying about his role entirely? Do you think he actually visited lunatic regardless of his role?

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@warren42
Do you think he's a mafia roleblocker?
Yes

Do you think he's lying about his role entirely?
He’s the Mafia Roleblocker 

Do you think he actually visited lunatic regardless of his role?
Probably
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@ILikePie5
Let's assume he's a mafia roleblocker. Why would he out his "I actually have a scummy claim" immediately? Why not keep that under wraps?

Let's assume he's a town roleblocker. Given his feelings toward Lunatic yesterday doesn't it make sense for him to have targeted Luna?
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@warren42
Let's assume he's a mafia roleblocker. Why would he out his "I actually have a scummy claim" immediately? Why not keep that under wraps?
It’s WIFOM. He prides himself in being able to talk his way out of things, which he clearly did here. I’m also curious how prostitution relates to roleblocking.

Let's assume he's a town roleblocker. Given his feelings toward Lunatic yesterday doesn't it make sense for him to have targeted Luna?
Him targeting Lunatic isn’t affiliation indicative because he has a motive to target Lunatic as scum too. My vote is going to stand.
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@ILikePie5
The traditional name for a mafia role blocker is Prostitute or Hooker. When the game started, drafter claimed to have a role that utilized the scum name which made sense (I assumed it was Prostitution). I'm just wary about that move now because if it's true there is no theme split, then he can be claiming his real character/role which is perhaps why Bullish didn't feel the need to give fake claims.  Ergo drafter could have been trying to earn town cred by claiming immediately, which is contrary to his alleged meta of not claiming upon pressure. 
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@drafterman
Why aren't you voting for Lunatic? 
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@drafterman
What is ur justification 
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Official Vote Count

drafter (2/5) - Danielle, pie,

Not voting: That1, warren, drafter, Speed, Supa, white, lunatic

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I gave my justification already and I I vote lunatic because I got what I wanted.
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@ILikePie5
All you have against me is WIFOM which is null. What specifically pushes me as scum in your eyes?
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@drafterman
I gave my justification already and I I vote lunatic because I got what I wanted.

Your vote isn't on Lunatic, so assuming you meant to say you unvoted him because you got what you wanted, what was it that you wanted? Last I saw in post 182, you were debating with Pie whether or not Corruption was a crime.  Were you convinced it is? 
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Waking up....

I'll take drafter's excuse that he was busy last day phase, though I wish he would have said so last day phase. In general I can accept a town roleblocker, seen them plenty of times before. Drafter get's some credit for being up front about it, as warren (points out. I won't town confirm him from that, because ragnar claimed town roleblocker in a supa game, however I know drafter could probably come up with a better fake claim than that as scum, so it leans more likely that he could be town. 

Not sure what we do about that1user. If she is scum we have no way of doing anything about it and I don't think the mod is gonna get a replacement for her until we have a dead townie, which gives that slot two free day phases to go under the radar. Kinda sucky. If we don't have a direction to go by the end of the day phase, I would still be okay lynching her. It's not about getting blood out of a stone or whatever, I've literally lost games as town to people who just don't post. Oro for example went under the radar with like 2 posts in an entire game once as scum and won which was a pretty sh1tty way to lose. Greyparrot as well in a christmas game over a year ago did the same. 


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@Danielle
I'm less bothered by it after talking it out with Pie, plus Lunatic has claimed he has a day-confirmable role, but seems to be waiting for the right time to do it. Unless there are people that want to force him to use it to confirm himself I really don't see viability in pushing the issue at the moment.
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@Bullish
Has That1 been pinged for activity? If not can we get one?
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I'm dealing with That1's inactivity
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@Danielle
I'm not sure, I have to reread my notes