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I have a strong hunch.
And how does speed know this 
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And how does speed know this 
Probably the same way he knows lol
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Not when it puts him at risk of being lynched
If it gets people off your ass like it has? 

That's begging the question, it assumes he's scum
Ya he’s scum. As a townie there was no incentive for him to choose me or Croc.

And? That doesn't mean he can't redirect someone
What? He literally said the reason he chose my actions to be redirected was cause he thought I was scum, when clearly he didn’t.
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A.) You don’t know he’s the redirector
You're correct, I don't. Do you have reason to believe he's false claiming it?

B.) Claiming Redirector benefits one person and one person only - Speed
Then why aren't you voting Speed?

C.) Speed was the one screaming Redirector at the top of his lungs
See above. If you think they're a scum team, why aren't you voting Speed?

D.) Croc was a safe target who no one would both visiting as a watched or other roles. I’ve explained this.
I'm having trouble with this. So, you're saying that WP chose Croc as his target solely because his actions in targeting Croc wouldn't be watched... and then told everyone about it now? Or are you saying that someone else did it and WP is covering for them? If that's the case, do you think it's Speed?

E.) If Water is town there was no reason for him to choose Croc. His excuse for scum reading me is fake considering he flip flopped and didn’t even think Speed was town.
If it's Water we're talking about, then it makes nothing but sense. There was repeated talk in the last DP, some of it by him, about how we should just get rid of Croc early. I don't see how that's sus at all when he blatantly said it in DP1.

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As for the flip flop, again, this is WP we're talking about. For lots of other players, that would be sus. For him, not so much.
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If it gets people off your ass like it has? 
You were literally the only one on me for that reason

Ya he’s scum. As a townie there was no incentive for him to choose me or Croc.
You say that assuming WP plays logically, and no offense to him but we both know he doesn't

What? He literally said the reason he chose my actions to be redirected was cause he thought I was scum, when clearly he didn’t.

He thought I was heavily lean town, and he never gave his read on you so you have no basis to assume that he didn't scumread you
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You're correct, I don't. Do you have reason to believe he's false claiming it?
Every incentive to if he’s a Bus Driver rather than a Redirector.

Then why aren't you voting Speed?
They’re both scum but Water’s flip gives more info to Speed’s affiliation than vice versa.


I'm having trouble with this. So, you're saying that WP chose Croc as his target solely because his actions in targeting Croc wouldn't be watched... and then told everyone about it now? Or are you saying that someone else did it and WP is covering for them? If that's the case, do you think it's Speed?
That’s my best guess for it. Keep in mind no one would’ve known who their action would be redirected to. It doesn’t matter who. The point is he didn’t have a reason to choose Croc who he didn’t want to lynch cause he believed him as Hated. If he though I was scum he’d choose someone he thought was scum with me.

If it's Water we're talking about, then it makes nothing but sense. There was repeated talk in the last DP, some of it by him, about how we should just get rid of Croc early. I don't see how that's sus at all when he blatantly said it in DP1.
Please quote this.
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As for the flip flop, again, this is WP we're talking about. For lots of other players, that would be sus. For him, not so much.
He’s not a noob. If it was a noob like That1 id understand. He’s not a noob
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You were literally the only one on me for that reason
It’s preemptive.

You say that assuming WP plays logically, and no offense to him but we both know he doesn't
He’s not a noob. And it still doesn’t explain why he chose Croc
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Dude, last game, he targeted the BP as the Doc. He may not be a noob, but he doesn't play this game the same way you or I would.
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@ILikePie5
It’s preemptive.
No reason to take unnecessary risks, you know I don't gambit lol

He’s not a noob. And it still doesn’t explain why he chose Croc
What whiteflame said
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Dude, last game, he targeted the BP as the Doc. He may not be a noob, but he doesn't play this game the same way you or I would.
Cause he misread lol. You saying he misread every post that was not on Speed, then was on Speed, then came off Speed?
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He thought I was heavily lean town, and he never gave his read on you so you have no basis to assume that he didn't scumread you
Nice try, that’s in reference to Croc, not you. Context is the policy lynch of Croc
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Y’all really going to tell me that Water as town thought he was redirecting a scum NK on the person he heavily townread the most? Gimme a break. I’m done for today
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I’m just gonna go back to my Fantasy Waifu and leave you bastards to continue getting character claims from people who aren’t gonna give em
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@ILikePie5
I'm saying that that behavior doesn't come solely from misreads. WP doesn't play this game in a way that most of us would. I'm not saying that's a free ticket for him to behave however he wants, though I haven't seen any solid discrepancies in his behavior that separate him from previous games where he was town. It's an odd role, he used it in an odd way, and surprisingly got what he wanted. I don't see how this is obvious scum play, and if he had a scum partner who was trying to guide him, I don't see why they'd push him to do this. 
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@ILikePie5
What part of it doesn’t make sense to you. And I’m not lynching Drafter over Water. That’s just retarded when we have a claimed redirector which is a scummy af role
One or both of Water or Speed is scum. Redirector is often a scum role, so I'm happy to go with water first. VTL water

And don't worry about me getting lynched. I'm not getting lynched today.
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Y’all really going to tell me that Water as town thought he was redirecting a scum NK on the person he heavily townread the most? Gimme a break. I’m done for today
ya but it's an anti-town role so since i thought you were scum i redirected your kill onto the most anti-town person in my opinion. i thought he was heavily lean town but the fact that he's an anti town role makes it so that i'd pick him to redirect to rather than any of you.

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@drafterman
One or both of Water or Speed is scum.
why

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@WaterPhoenix
Because the only reason to redirect someone away from Speed is if you're scum trying to screw with town and or trying to protect him from town investigation.
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@drafterman
Could you explain to me why he couldn’t possibly have tried to protect him from an NK?
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@whiteflame
Why would speed be an nk target?
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@drafterman
He didn’t select Speed. He selected Pie and redirected his actions to Croc. Why is it impossible to believe that he was suspicious of Pie?
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@whiteflame
He selected pie because he felt pie was going to target speed. So yes he was protecting speed. He redirected pie from speed to croc who was most likely a townie.
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i wasn't trying to protect speed, i could only redirect what pie did onto croc
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He selected pie because he felt pie was going to target speed. So yes he was protecting speed. He redirected pie from speed to croc who was most likely a townie.
no, i selected pie because he was against speed but i didn't think he'd try to kill speed because there were still a lot of people against and for speed making him still suspicious and not a good nk option.
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@WaterPhoenix
What about pie going after speed in the day made you want to redirect him to croc?
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I understand that Croc wasn't the best redirect target, but that's true whether he's a townie or mafia. Frankly, I buy that it at least makes more sense for it to be a townie move coming from WP. The reasoning isn't great, but if a scum partner was giving him directions, I honestly can't fathom why he'd choose to redirect to Croc instead of hitting a possible power role. Eliminating the Hated townie doesn't really accomplish much for them. Sure, there's some risk involved, but that still seems like the obviously better move, especially when there were so many of us talking about lynching Croc early.