MCU Tools Mafia - DP1

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@Vader
I'm fine with lynching Water too, but will wait it out for a lil bit
Why?

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@drafterman
What is the point of this statement?
What is the point of any of your statements except to be contrarian?

Your trying to play both sides of the fence lol
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@drafterman
To discuss other reads. I am probably dying in NP1 because I'm confirmed, and I want to be sure of my reads. I usually do this
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danielle can go
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unvote, vtl danielle
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@drafterman
well i mean from 11 pm yesterday to 3pm today i've been doing stuffs like sleeping and school.
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@Lunatic
What is the point of any of your statements except to be contrarian?
#73 - A post with me passing on the popcorn claim so that the game didn't stall with people waiting on me.
#74 - A post explaining why the popcorn claim itself was useless so no one else would waste time with it.
#139 - Further explanation as to why popcorn claiming was useless along with the futility of trying to stir up activity by voting inactive players (if they're not here to begin with, they can't respond to actions in the game), followed up with a vote for my biggest scum read.
#140 - Drafter List
#141 - Working with Supa to figure out additional scum
#145 - Answering Danielle's question
#147 - Correction to the mod about the vote count
#154 - Expansion on my FOS on Water
#157 - Reply to Danielle about game expectations
#173 - Correction to you about my stance in this game
#174 - Probing Water, my main FOS
#175 - Explanation about the difference between lurking and inactivity (an important distinction to make)

Your trying to play both sides of the fence lol
How so? And what "sides"?
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@WaterPhoenix
well i mean from 11 pm yesterday to 3pm today i've been doing stuffs like sleeping and school.
I'm not particularly interested in when you haven't been able to track the game. Your statement implies you've been keeping track of the game, but haven't been participating because you didn't come up for the popcorn before we stopped doing it.

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@drafterman
i kept track up to where lunatic and supa were arguing then went to sleep and then had online school and now i'm catching up and participating 
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@Vader
I am probably dying in NP1 because I'm confirmed, and I want to be sure of my reads.
you're confirmed? can you link the post showing you're confirmed cause i might be blind.

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@WaterPhoenix
I'm Falcon's Wings. And Supa is confirmed via the mod in the OP - he's the Innocent Child. 
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@WaterPhoenix
This is in the OP. Did you eve look at the OP?
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@drafterman
Am I at risk of being blocked for responding to you at length?
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@Danielle
oh, feels bad :(
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@Vader
no, i'm blind
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Claimed
6. SupaDudz - Gjallerhorn - Innocent Child
8. GreyParrot - Ironman Suit MK 1 - BP
9. whiteflame - Infinity Gauntlet - ????
1. Lunatic - Gungnir - ????
4. Elminster - Stormbreaker - ????
5. ILikePie5 - Nick Fury's Pager - ????
3. Crocodile - Ronan's Hammer - ????
11. drafterman - Red Wing - ????
7. WaterPhoenix - Kimoyo Beads - ????
2. Danielle - Falcon's Wings - ????

Unclaimed
10. warren42

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Interesting. There are a high proportion of Asgardian items.
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@drafterman
How so? And what "sides"?
Pretending to be okay with the mass claim and immediately denying to be okay with it right after lol.
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@Lunatic
If there is any discrepancy between my stances it is because my original stance was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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@drafterman
If there is any discrepancy between my stances it is because my original stance was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Benefit of the doubt for what? Having a logical argument? I responded to why I thought it is a good plan. You are free to disagree I guess but you are wrong. If your cool with being wrong theres nothing to discuss.
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@Lunatic
Either character claims lock a person into a role claim or it doesn't.

If it does, then  you might as well get that role along with the character.

If it doesn't, then character claims mean nothing.
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@drafterman
Either character claims lock a person into a role claim or it doesn't.

If it does, then  you might as well get that role along with the character.

If it doesn't, then character claims mean nothing.

It's the justification between role and character that matters: I would say my character makes sense with my justification. Would you?

If I was scum and forced into claiming the character dp1, I am forced in getting ready to claim whatever my fake role will be for the game. It's either gonna make sense or it will be a stretch, and that is something we can factor in to reading someone. If scum happen to be really good at fake claiming or already have an idea of what they will claim, then it may not help. But I don't see how it hurts, and thats the point. Doing it DP1 increases liklihood of potential CC and forces scums hand in deciding to stick with the character they have or fake one, and fake character claiming increases the chance of them being caught. 

But like you said, it shouldn't hurt so whether or not this turns results or not, it's probably worth doing.


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@ILikePie5
*re drafter vote early*

dammit pie, at this point I feel it's not worth arguing yet again but drafter hadn't posted. That's not lurking. That's having not posted.

Why did you vote him over the other non-posters?
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Totally

you however are ignoring the fuck out of your discord pms while being active on here. Typing to much in the chain pm?
Am I reading this wrong or does he (Mikal/elm) not know that DART PMs can't be group PMs and that he'd be precluded from being scum for that reason?

Any thoughts? Would Mikal fake this?
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@warren42
Did you claim your character yet? 
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@Lunatic
Unless you're getting their role claim at the same time, then you're still giving them potentially multiple day phases to come up with one and refine it to make it believable.

You're right, there is no harm in this completely useless action because it has no impact on the game other than to waste time.

But you could say there is some amount of risk into thinking an action has worth when it does not.
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@Danielle
I haven't, did Lunatic's side win out for a mass claim or did you just want my claim specifically? Not fully caught up

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When warren and danielle see it, they will participate and it will be quality even if limited somewhat.
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@Lunatic
cat's out of the bag now, but yeah that looks pretty good for pie given that the name aws changed last minute
Meh

Why would you say that? You think (or at least at that point in the game thought) that pie's character was a last second addition? Why couldn't he have been a last second change in role for mafia, and needing to change the character accordingly? I kinda like your thought process even if I disagree with you. Minor town points allocated to you
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Wait a second, reading the part where we're discussing Supa's tentative character/role link which I don't care about, he's mod confirmed, I guess it's worth mentioning if you think it might mean people don't mistakenly scumread anyone with a tentative link, but here's my problem:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU EVER CLAIM YOUR CHARACTER SUPA?!

Like you could have just waited the entire time. It doesn't matter what your character is. But wait and you might be able to cc someone!